Russia and Ukraine

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 3:36 pm

Wild Bill wrote:How could i know?
I am just nerd from small town.

We're getting new Andreyisms

unknown · Post by **unknown** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 7:53 pm

Ukrainians would be acting in their own economical disinterest to align with Russia

i hope my english is good for you to understand.

russia offered 15 bilions,europe offered a pat on the back and a photo of ukrainian president with eu leaders
as a proof that ukraine is finally democratic along with 35 bilion loan from imf with cuttings to health care,school
instructon ecc.

what would you choose. a 15 bil to join russia as a gift or 35 bil debt to join eu?

i live in cro and the only thing capitalism and democracy brought here is extreme poverty.

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:13 pm

Must have interviewed hundreds of Ukrainians in 1991-1993, hired quite a few. They all brought wives and had relative already here with whom they stayed until the first paycheck and their own places.

It's just like the concept of Africa as the cradle of human life - all the smart ones left as soon as they could.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:30 pm

Damn dude. Long time no see.

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:32 pm

Fat Cat wrote:Damn dude. Long time no see.

What's shakin', Mad Mak?

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:48 pm

Same old bro, lifting and huggin' up on guys in fabulous bathrobes. You?

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:55 pm

Getting exploited by The Man, mostly. Someday I'll get class conscious and drop my bourgeois pretensions, start helping that old dialectic along. Until then: work, chase skirts, fool around with various athletic endeavors, write, etc.

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:05 pm

nafod wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:OHMYGODNAZIS
I'm picturing some Crimean Tatar being held and tortured in a Russian prison saying, "At least they aren't Nazis.".

Why don't you picturing like tatars torturung russians? :)

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:10 pm

Garm wrote:Getting exploited by The Man, mostly. Someday I'll get class conscious and drop my bourgeois pretensions, start helping that old dialectic along. Until then: work, chase skirts, fool around with various athletic endeavors, write, etc.

What are your athletic endeavors at the moment?

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:20 pm

Fat Cat wrote:What are your athletic endeavors at the moment?

I dropped some weight, and am trying to get in shape for a PL meet at 242 this fall. Trying to keep a decent level of CV and flexibility at the same time, going to various MA sessions regularly. Bullseye comp may not be very athletic, but I'm still fooling with that, too - mostly because I like fooling around with weapons and tools. Went skiing a lot this winter, courting another decade+ younger than me gal who is into such. Whatever I have time for, basically - I've still got 2 more years of single parenthood, but it's easier now that they're teens.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:22 pm

Cool. What kind of numbers are you putting up?

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:30 pm

I haven't entered a meet in a long time, and went at 308 when I did. I honestly don't know. I'm doing half assed 'instinctive' training a la Anderson - work up to whatever feels right and do a bunch of sets of triples. Squats twice a week, front squats + lunges on the day in the middle. Pressing 4x, lots of different angles. Not much pulling, yet. I'd be happy if I got a paltry 1,200. I really don't care about it anymore, it's just that having a definitive event / goal in the future keeps my nose to the grindstone. I can usually do a lot of squat triples with 3-4 wheels, sometimes sneaking up on 5. I'd be very surprised if I could bench more than 340 or so after I peak. 'A lot' varies from 5 to 12+ sets, depending on how much time I have and how I feel. Sometimes the weight goes down, an endurance issue.

If I do reasonably well, maybe the bug will bite and I'll get serious about next year. I can lift in the 3rd master class now, so it should be pretty easy to take home a trophy or two.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:47 pm

Cool, still very respectable numbers and if you're having fun, that's all that really matters. Whatever happened to msgarm?

odin · Post by **odin** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:02 pm

Garm wrote:I haven't entered a meet in a long time, and went at 308 when I did. I honestly don't know. I'm doing half assed 'instinctive' training a la Anderson - work up to whatever feels right and do a bunch of sets of triples. Squats twice a week, front squats + lunges on the day in the middle. Pressing 4x, lots of different angles. Not much pulling, yet. I'd be happy if I got a paltry 1,200. I really don't care about it anymore, it's just that having a definitive event / goal in the future keeps my nose to the grindstone. I can usually do a lot of squat triples with 3-4 wheels, sometimes sneaking up on 5. I'd be very surprised if I could bench more than 340 or so after I peak. 'A lot' varies from 5 to 12+ sets, depending on how much time I have and how I feel. Sometimes the weight goes down, an endurance issue.

If I do reasonably well, maybe the bug will bite and I'll get serious about next year. I can lift in the 3rd master class now, so it should be pretty easy to take home a trophy or two.

fwiw - and it aint worth shit - you posted that routine, (or one like it) in answer to a question I posed to you a few years back. I used it for a year for two meets and hit a lifetime PR in my deadlift and a bw PR in squat and bench. The numbers were all shit so don't congratulate yourself too much, but belated thanks for the info.

Garm · Post by **Garm** » Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:25 pm

odin wrote: fwiw - and it aint worth shit - you posted that routine, (or one like it) in answer to a question I posed to you a few years back. I used it for a year for two meets and hit a lifetime PR in my deadlift and a bw PR in squat and bench. The numbers were all shit so don't congratulate yourself too much, but belated thanks for the info.

it's not mine, it's Paul Anderson's. One of many, and he did it for squats 'all day'. I can't work out all day, but it seems reasonable for an hour or so. smart to focus on one fundamental lift if conditioning is the goal. I don't need to fool with assistance exercises if I do enough sets, and I can push it if I want or take it easy if it's not my day. gotta be real about whether it's your day or you're lazy, though. Lots of eastern bloc weightlifting training is very similar. simple, focused, heavy on the neutral patterning.

I'm glad it worked for you.

Gene · Post by **Gene** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 1:48 am

The US needs to mind its own fucking business.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:12 am

An increase of two or three degrees wouldn't be so bad for a northern country like Russia. We could spend less on fur coats, and the grain harvest would go up.
Vladimir Putin

Reason enough for the IGx libs to support attack on the Russians IMO.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:27 am

Interesting...

At home, this intervention looks to be one of the most unpopular decisions Putin has ever made. The Kremlin's own pollster released a survey on Monday that showed 73% of Russians reject it. In phrasing its question posed in early February to 1,600 respondents across the country, the state-funded sociologists at WCIOM were clearly trying to get as much support for the intervention as possible: "Should Russia react to the overthrow of the legally elected authorities in Ukraine?" they asked. Only 15% said yes -- hardly a national consensus.

That seems astounding in light of all the brainwashing Russians have faced on the issue of Ukraine. For weeks, the Kremlin's effective monopoly on television news has been sounding the alarm over Ukraine. Its revolution, they claimed, is the result of an American alliance with Nazis intended to weaken Russia. And still, nearly three-quarters of the population oppose a Russian "reaction" of any kind, let alone a Russian military occupation like they are now watching unfold in Crimea. The 2008 invasion of Georgia had much broader support, because Georgia is not Ukraine. Ukraine is a nation of Slavs with deep cultural and historical ties to Russia. Most Russians have at least some family or friends living in Ukraine, and the idea of a fratricidal war between the two largest Slavic nations in the world evokes a kind of horror that no Kremlin whitewash can calm.

Indeed, Monday's survey suggests that the influence of Putin's television channels is breaking down. The blatant misinformation and demagoguery on Russian television coverage of Ukraine seems to have pushed Russians to go online for their information. And as for those who still have no Internet connection, they could simply have picked up the phone and called their panicked friends and relatives in Ukraine.

http://world.time.com/2014/03/03/putin- ... z2v0Hhb6VI

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 3:23 am

Turdacious wrote:At home, this intervention looks to be one of the most unpopular decisions Putin has ever made. The Kremlin's own pollster released a survey on Monday that showed 73% of Russians reject it.

They asked wrong questions. Of course all aganst invasion of Ukraine. And i don't believe Putin planned this.
But if they asked about Crimea... i think more than 50% would say Russia should support Crimean separatists.
I judging by russian forums.

But i don't know, maybe those "Crimean self-defense units" still there? :)

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:35 am

New Ukrainean government at work :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fKIq8fE1CE[/youtube]

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:36 am

Wild Bill wrote:New Ukrainean government at work :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fKIq8fE1CE[/youtube]

NEEDS MORE NAZIS AND SWASTIKAS

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:47 am

nafod wrote:NEEDS MORE NAZIS AND SWASTIKAS

what for?

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 5:49 am

here you are :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpVXi3kPbAs[/youtube]

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:02 am

we cant understand that shit

Wild Bill · Post by **Wild Bill** » Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:46 am

Fat Cat wrote:we cant understand that shit

I am too :)) It is no matter what cetainly was said. Just funny videos.

I can understand part of this though :)
He says while he has gun, he is rules. Who disagree with him can try to take his automat, or his gun or his knife.
Who try? Nonone? Then listen what i say... etc :)

IGX

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