Biotest Flameout

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:49 am

Seems good. The typical benefits attributed to fish oil seem to come in here. Much more concentrated than the usual stuff in terms of DHA than the other brands, which justifies the reasonable price.

Schlegel · Post by **Schlegel** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:05 pm

You mean you don't have to swallow 10 capsules at a time?

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 6:07 pm

Schlegel wrote:You mean you don't have to swallow 10 capsules at a time?

Suggested dose is four a day. The equivalent from most others is 10-12.

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:03 pm

How much more than regular ole fish oil?

Burposity?

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:21 am

Renegade Doughboy wrote:How much more than regular ole fish oil?

In terms of fatty acids? CostCo's Kirkland brand you'd need to take 18.3 pills to match the DHA, 5 to match EPA, of four Flamouts. I don't know what the CLA comparison is. In terms of cost, I believe that about equalizes the price, I don't know what Kirkland goes for at the store.

Renegade Doughboy wrote:Burposity?

Yeah, but very mild. Every brand but Carlson's (lemon flavored, no burps, expensive), I get fish burps. Little burps that taste fishy, for those who don't know. The Kirkland brand's were foul enough it made me nauseous. That alone sells me on the Biotest stuff.

Flamout's are brief and not very noticeable, and I've taken all four at once on an empty stomach. Taking with food reduces it, I suspect spreading it out throughout the day would eliminate it, though I haven't done that. You have to refrigerate the stuff and it's easier to pop them when convenient, since T-Nation says there's no reason to space it out.

Update on benefits. DOMS seems to have suddenly become a very brief condition, despite being sedentary for almost five weeks. Not totally gone, but I could have hit BJJ today, which was very surprising. Obvious improvements in skin; "winter itch" (more likely eczema in my case), which jiu jitsu aggravated and I'd tried a few different meds for, is almost completely gone after a week of this stuff. It did take a few days for any changes to be noticeable, but now it's obviously. Highly recommend you try it out for a month, without changing other variables, and see what you think.

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:29 pm

I already take Member's Mark coated fish oil capsules (switched back from flax) and have for months now. It is cheap and only the occasional foul burp arises. As for the benefits: Who knows? But it makes me feel good to take them. It's like I really care about my body and want to be fit or something.

For general healthiness, you should take magnesium and potassium as well. Dan John recommended this and I noticed a difference when I started. I am old though so you may not need this geriatric mineral regimen in your life.

And above all you need to take fiber. Yes, you'll get the fishy shits for a few days but you will adapt. Fiber is the key.

RDB

stosh · Post by **stosh** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:13 pm

Renegade Doughboy wrote:For general healthiness, you should take magnesium and potassium as well. Dan John recommended this and I noticed a difference when I started. RDB

What noticable difference with the minerals, Doughy?

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:26 pm

elrodjr wrote:
Renegade Doughboy wrote:For general healthiness, you should take magnesium and potassium as well. Dan John recommended this and I noticed a difference when I started. RDB
What noticable difference with the minerals, Doughy?

Think Cialis.

http://www.dolfzine.com/page660.htm Scroll down to the supplementation section.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:32 am

Hey STROY
Have you noticed anything from the Flameout yet? Is it really worth $25 for 22 days supply?

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:59 am

Dave wrote:Hey STROY
Have you noticed anything from the Flameout yet? Is it really worth $25 for 22 days supply?

Yep. I'd keep it up for skin benefits alone, given the BJJ can be tough on it and the winter is brutal. Very pleased. I may go off it in a couple months to see if things lag, but at the moment it's exceeding my expectations.

DB, how much potassium and magnesium are you taking daily>?

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:24 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Dave wrote:Hey STROY
Have you noticed anything from the Flameout yet? Is it really worth $25 for 22 days supply?
Yep. I'd keep it up for skin benefits alone, given the BJJ can be tough on it and the winter is brutal. Very pleased. I may go off it in a couple months to see if things lag, but at the moment it's exceeding my expectations.

DB, how much potassium and magnesium are you taking daily>?

Fuck, I don't know. Whatever comes in the IGA generic vitamin bottle. I think it's like 99 or 100 mg. Standard sized piss enhancers.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:47 pm

I take 6 to 9 fish oil caps /day which ends up being about 1/3 of the amount of EPA & DHA in 4 Flameouts so $$$ speaking the flameout is cheaper. But still $25 for a bottle of fish pills.....

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:17 pm

Dave, I agree, but given what Carlson's costs it makes sense for me. It's also the only supplement I take, as I can't tolerate whey shakes.

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:21 pm

Troy,

Potassium is 99mg
Magnesium is 250mg

Fish oil at Sam's club is very cheap.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:57 pm

Also, I seem to be DOMS-proof lately. I get sore, and it may last a few days, but I don't think it would be enough to completely knock me out of training 24-48 hrs. later.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:59 pm

It's easy when you don't exercise.

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:04 pm

Fat Cat wrote:It's easy when you don't exercise.

What's Jack got to do with this?

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:05 pm

I'm kidding, I'm glad Spells is making progress again.

Renegade Doughboy · Post by **Renegade Doughboy** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:06 pm

Fat Cat wrote:I'm kidding, I'm glad Spells is making progress again.

I was kidding, too.

Abandoned by Wolves · Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:31 pm

Or you could, you know, eat some sardines.

Carlson's Cod Liver oil seems to me to be a great product for the price, too.

greenghost · Post by **greenghost** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:13 pm

Steve,

Try these. http://www.vitaminworld.com/pages/Categ ... AA&CID=228

I get the Super Fish Oil and take 6 a day. One 180 count bottle lasts 1 month and I get the second half price.

I take these when I eat my meals and get no fish burp.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:17 pm

GG, which one? Also, why no more coconut oil for you? Is that a seasonal thing?

greenghost · Post by **greenghost** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:29 pm

Super EPA Natural.

I'm off coconut oil for this year. I'm loading up on Omega 3's ( fish,flax ) to test out their anti inflammatory claims and for the purpose of relieving joint pain.

That's why I'll be low carbing all year. 10 grams of carbs per day or less.

I'll need a full year to be sure. I'll also be upping the dosages.

Eddie

TomFurman · Post by **TomFurman** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:32 am

You can try this source of Oils. I like it alot.

http://www.lef.org/newshop/items/item00820.html