Turdacious wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 5:00 pm
syaigh wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:55 am
Did you watch it? Its what the jury found compelling.
I'm not trying to have a one-up competition here. There are facts and there is bullshit. It doesn't seem you've watched any credible news or read any credible information. This isn't about politics. The simple fact is that George Floyd was murdered. No justification for it. Good cops hate bad cops. There is no reason to assume Derek Chauvin was a good man with good intentions in this situation.
So what should he have been convicted of?
Murder one would require premeditation (I saw no evidence of that)
Murder two requires reckless disregard for human life (bit more of a grey area because he was using a legal tactic he was trained to use)
Manslaughter/murder three is an unplanned, unintentional killing (maybe still a grey area but I can see it)
Complicating factors: Floyd was physically superior to Chauvin (former athlete, much bigger, on drugs that can reasonably cause substance induced psychosis and still in reasonably good shape) and no cop I've ever talked to who deals with irrational high people on a regular basis has ever considered them reliable while in an altered state.
Where are all the cops, supervisors, trainers saying this? Why didn't the defense have witness after expert witness saying "DC handled this the exact way he was supposed to?"
In fact, it was the opposite. The prosecution had police, supervisors, etc. saying this is not how we use this tactic. This is not how we are trained. He knew better.
You all saw the video. I don't what the hard on is for this guy. Everyone, including his own department, says that he shouldn't have had GF prone that long with the knee on his neck. It was not how he was trained and it was not a legal tactic.
I mean, do you all run around with Blue Lives Matter flags on your trucks? Are you loving the cops so much that you give them handjobs on their breaks?
I really don't get the love you are all showing this prick.
And I don't what to hear this whole physically superior horseshit anymore. He was fucking handcuffed. I am so fucking sick of hearing this bullshit about how hard and dangerous it is to restrain people.
I know 65 year old Filipino nurses who deal with this type of thing in hospitals all the time. They don't kill people.
One of my good friends used to work in a foster home. These girls have been through more trauma than any of us imagine and would go from the sweetest things in the world to irate in the blink of an eye. And these were some big girls.
She and her partners would restrain them and somehow manage to not kill any of them.
My dad worked in a prison. They didn't carry guns. Somehow they managed to restrain prisoners ALL the time without killing them.
I will throw myself into this mix. Pre covid I was doing low level security work on the side. Concerts, sporting events, etc. Low level low pay and we were constantly being told what our job and expectations were and to act professionally. You get beer thrown on you? Be professional. Some asshole pushes you? Be professional. Don't worry, the team is coming to restrain, remove, and you get to go home early. You know how many people we killed? NONE.
Enough of this nonsense.
Police are paid BANK. In his divorce his ex walked away with 750,000. They owned two homes. How many of you all are making enough for two homes and 750,000 in the bank?
They make more than enough money to act professionally. Their mantra and mandate should be to get the suspect into the station for booking as safely as possible.
No free passes. No excuses. If you can't do that, don't be a cop. If you you don't do that, you get prosecuted.