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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9av38iK_Y0[/youtube]

Enjoying this a lot. Each episode is very well written. Reminds me of Twin Peaks in some ways but without Lynch's quirkiness.
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Chessman wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9av38iK_Y0[/youtube]

Enjoying this a lot. Each episode is very well written. Reminds me of Twin Peaks in some ways but without Lynch's quirkiness.
+1.

I know season 2 is out but haven't seen it available. The Lynch reference is a fair one...although it also feels a little ripped off. They do a good job mixing Seattle and Vancouver locations to get an authentic feel for the gritty bits of the City. I really enjoyed the first season.
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Utter horseshit. First episode (2-hr premiere) was devastating, extremely well-done and very sad. But about 2/3 into the season you realize that the writers HAD NOT DECIDED WHO COMMITTED THE MURDER. They were making it up as they went along, throwing in twists and turns that made no logical sense. The series creator said that she had resolved not to make a "formulaic murder story". Well ok: but at least structure your goddam story.

By the way, at the end of season one you still don't know whodunnit.

The most sensible, educational thing I read about the Killing was on the OnionAVClub review of the season one finale. You don't realize how preposterous the whole thing had gotten, until you see it all listed out like this:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/orpheus- ... ing,57743/
Spoiler: show
I decided to make a list (I was inspired by Holder, I guess) of all the far-fetched occurrences and unlikely coincidences that have taken place across the course of the season and—guess what?—it’s pretty damn long. If I have missed (or misrepresented) any, please weigh in, but here’s what I came up with. Brace yourselves:
• Rosie’s best friend borrows her wig, then has sex with her boyfriend in the school’s dank basement, while bleeding profusely from her nose, while another guy wearing a devil mask records it on his phone.
• Also, a pervy janitor named after the late Lyndon Johnson is watching the whole thing happen.
• Said janitor turns out to be pedophile, jumps out of window, ends up in hospital.
• Rosie's parents don’t call their daughter all weekend, detectives never find out why.
• Other seemingly basic things Holder and Linden don’t do until well after Bennet is cleared: scour Rosie’s computer (as in, not just take a quick look at her internet history); check the fuel levels and mileage of the car in which her dead body was found; call cab companies to see if anyone picked up a girl fitting Rosie’s description.
• Stan buys house without telling his wife.
• A teacher with a track record of dating his students also has an unusually close relationship with Rosie, but there’s nothing untoward going on between them.
• Bennet helps a young Somali girl procure a fake passport so she can flee to Canada to avoid ritual circumcision.
• Somali girl hides out in a meat locker that has been converted into a bedroom, which Linden and Holder happen to discover at the exact same moment as an FBI raid.
• Somali girl also just so happens to have the exact same T-shirt as Rosie.
• Mitch waits a week to do laundry, so doesn’t find Rosie’s T-shirt until after Stan has beat the shit out of Bennet.
• FBI agent leaves truck containing evidence unattended, door wide open.
• Despite the fact that he’s facing murder charges, Bennet is unwilling to tell police what he was really doing the night of Rosie’s murder.
• Mitch leaves her two surviving children in garage while car is running, forgets about them.
• Between the school dance and her shift at the casino, Rosie felt the need to schlep out to Bennet’s house to return a book, even though she would have seen him Monday morning at school.
• Bennet’s wife does not recognize the man who has already confessed to beating her husband into a coma, a man who is also the father of the girl Bennet was accused of killing.
• Everything Holder has been doing all along has been part of an elaborate effort to frame Richmond.
• Not 1 but 2 suspects in Rosie’s killing fall victim to acts of vigilante justice.
• Creepy stalker Belko basically lives with Larsens and is infatuated with Rosie, but has nothing to do with her’s murder.
• Neither does her sadistic ex-boyfriend.
• Neither does Richmond, who is hung up on his dead wife, fixated with brunettes, and often says creepy, threatening things to escorts.
Call me crazy, but that's a whole lot of disbelief for one person to suspend. And that's not even counting the jaw-dropping (or is it knee-slapping?) last-minute plot twist in this finale
Stray observations (or “other things that don’t add up”):
• Holder claims that he hasn’t heard back about the surveillance footage from the toll booth, so Linden tells him to submit a request using her badge number. On board the plane, she gets a phone call (in the middle of the night?) from highway patrol regarding the footage, which means that Holder, despite trying to frame Richmond, must have submitted the request, using Linden's badge number and contact information, all but guaranteeing that his cover would be blown.
• The gas station owner is totally unperturbed by the screams of a teenage girl.
• The scene between Gwen and Linden, which actually had potential, was a dud. (“He was wet, soaking wet.” “What do you mean?” “Like he'd been in water.”)
• Related: Gwen is either in on the conspiracy, or a complete idiot.
• Not every last thing about this episode was terrible. I did like how it visually referred back to the pilot, as Holder and Linden return the area around Discovery Park.
Holder's Rain Man-ish math skills were sort of hilarious, too, although maybe that was just a front, too.
The comments on the review are awesome too.

I will say that the acting was tremendous, all the way thru. Still, recommend everyone pass, with extreme prejudice.
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don't hold back , bro...


i'm a lil surprised you found it more onerous in this show than any other but i can grok your point. it does get a little aimless.
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JimZipCode wrote:Utter horseshit. First episode (2-hr premiere) was devastating, extremely well-done and very sad. But about 2/3 into the season you realize that the writers HAD NOT DECIDED WHO COMMITTED THE MURDER. They were making it up as they went along, throwing in twists and turns that made no logical sense. The series creator said that she had resolved not to make a "formulaic murder story". Well ok: but at least structure your goddam story.

By the way, at the end of season one you still don't know whodunnit.

The most sensible, educational thing I read about the Killing was on the OnionAVClub review of the season one finale.
i waited until we watched the end of season 2 last night to respond. The Killing is the American version of a Danish TV show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killin ... TV_series)

They were following the writing and plot of the original show. so obviously they knew who the killer was in advance. Most of the crap the Onion wrote was answered in season 2. BTW, season 1 and 2 together are about 26 episodes - pretty close to a regular TV season. 13 shows is way shorter than than the original Danish series. There was no way they could have wrapped it up that short and stayed true to the original, which was 20 episodes long.

Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but me and the wife thoroughly enjoyed it and look forward to seeing the original. Love the soundtrack, too.
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Chessman wrote:
JimZipCode wrote:Utter horseshit. First episode (2-hr premiere) was devastating, extremely well-done and very sad. But about 2/3 into the season you realize that the writers HAD NOT DECIDED WHO COMMITTED THE MURDER. They were making it up as they went along, throwing in twists and turns that made no logical sense. The series creator said that she had resolved not to make a "formulaic murder story". Well ok: but at least structure your goddam story.

By the way, at the end of season one you still don't know whodunnit.

The most sensible, educational thing I read about the Killing was on the OnionAVClub review of the season one finale.
i waited until we watched the end of season 2 last night to respond. The Killing is the American version of a Danish TV show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killin ... TV_series)

They were following the writing and plot of the original show. so obviously they knew who the killer was in advance. Most of the crap the Onion wrote was answered in season 2. BTW, season 1 and 2 together are about 26 episodes - pretty close to a regular TV season. 13 shows is way shorter than than the original Danish series. There was no way they could have wrapped it up that short and stayed true to the original, which was 20 episodes long.

Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but me and the wife thoroughly enjoyed it and look forward to seeing the original. Love the soundtrack, too.
Post back if you find the original,I've been neck deep in the nordic crime drama stuff for a while and find it a refreshing change of pace,maybe that's why i liked the killing so well. Scanderhoovian stuff works well in the Cascadia Climate.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Post back if you find the original,I've been neck deep in the nordic crime drama stuff for a while and find it a refreshing change of pace,maybe that's why i liked the killing so well. Scanderhoovian stuff works well in the Cascadia Climate.
Will do. The original was supposed to have three seasons of separate story lines. Sounds good to me.
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So it started to make sense?

i started out loving it. Was moved, blown away by the premiere. I began to feel betrayed as it wound on and started to get more and more ridiculous.

The acting was always awesome. Nice photography & music too. My problem was with the writing.

Question: the dude who killed her, since he dumped her body in the trunk and put that car in the water, how did he get back to town?
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JimZipCode wrote:So it started to make sense?

i started out loving it. Was moved, blown away by the premiere. I began to feel betrayed as it wound on and started to get more and more ridiculous.

The acting was always awesome. Nice photography & music too. My problem was with the writing.

Question: the dude who killed her, since he dumped her body in the trunk and put that car in the water, how did he get back to town?
Spoiler: show
He wasn't alone. And who was with him was pretty surprising, at least to me.
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