The couch thread

[The Ginger Beard Man]

The "empirical proof" of this is found in the LACK of cultfitters in 2009-10 who were present in 2003-04. Additional proof is the LACK of improved numbers. If you look at the "empirical data," you find nothing but a continuing-replaceable slew of novices and beginners. You'd think the Cultfitters from 2003 would be elite Olympians, or at least Elite GAYMES competitors. So much for the "longevity" axis, eh Couch?

I think a whole thread of mine got pulled one time not long ago where I was seriously wondering where all the homegrown elite @fitters were? Where were the 23 year olds that had been doing @fit at "elite" levels for 3-4 years and why weren't they competing in the games? All the top places in the gaymes had outside strength backgrounds, competed at a D1 college level, etc.

The one consistent answer I got was "Well, what about Khalista Pappas?" Great if a 14-year old girl is elite in your sport, you better be in a pool or on the fucking pommel horse - NOT performing DL's, running hills and doing power cleans. She's more of an anomaly than anything else.

The other asshole who supposedly is in the 'elite' pipeline is dickface CF Kid's super-apologist's son Connor Martin, who among other things apparently is a black belt of some kind. Well, Connor, where are ya? 2009? Didn't qualify - too bad son. 2008 you ask? Surely he murdered it that year as there was no qualification needed and he has been tactically-@fitting since birth? Nope 116th place.

But, since Crossfit "Prides itself in domination of other athletes" I guess all is well - as long as the money keeps rolling in.

Jeff Martin is a fuck. Dude seems like some kind of weird ass Mormon cult leader or something. If I wanted my kids to be around some scary as hell creep that like to be around kids, we'd start going back to Saturday mass.
Fucking @fit kids pisses me off worse than the metrosexual/cougar version that the adults buy into. I remember seeing a video a while back where he said his kids were so awesome because they went trick-or-treating, but came home and threw away the candy because they knew sugar was bad. Those kids are going to be tomorrow's mall shooters and college campus snipers.
For fuck's sake, give the fucking kid a KitKat, it's Halloween, asshole.

Or the next Todd Marinovich.
Oh, sorry, 116th place? At least Marinovich was good at something.

[Jag Panzer]

Even scientists think the Zone is full of shit:

Many of the promised benefits of the Zone are based on selective information regarding hormonal influences on eicosanoid biology. Contradictory information is conveniently left out. The principle of vasodilating muscle arterioles by altering eicosanoid production is notably correct in theory. However, what little human evidence is available does not support any significant contribution of eicosanoids to active muscle vasodilation. In fact, the key eicosanoid reportedly produced in the Zone and responsible for improved muscle oxygenation is not found in skeletal muscle. Based on the best available scientific evidence, the Zone diet should be considered more ergolytic than ergogenic to performance.

[Danny John]

I thought this was good:

Tips for writing a best selling diet book

(from Hawley, J. and L. Burke. Peak Performance: training and nutrition strategies for sport, Sydney: Allen and Unwin, 1998)

* Have impressive sounding qualifications in a medically related field
* Be controversial. Slam the current world experts on health and nutrition, and the guidelines for healthy eating.
* Claim an amazing new scientific understanding. Fill pages with complicated biochemistry explained in simple language.
* Claim that your diet will cure all manner of diseases and health problems, including heart disease, cancer, diabetes and aids. Prove this with case histories.
* Provide a complicated set of rules about foods that can't be eaten, or even worse, foods that can't be eaten at the same time.
* Have sports stars, film stars and political heavy weights follow and flourish on your diet - or at least be rumoured to.
* Best of all, promise that weight loss will occur while the dieter can eat as much as they like.

http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition ... _zone_diet

[Shafpocalypse Now]

The gayness of tribal tats and armbands that don't go all the way around shouldn't be dismissed.

I mean, armbands are gay enough (I have one that goes all the way around my chubby arm) but the pussies who can't fucking hack the inside of the upper arm being tattooed should just start BOTO and PODing it publically.

[Gin Master]

Enter the Zone talked about swimmers and some other athletes and that there was a legit study done on them, but that study has never, in my recollection, surfaced.

There are some legit lulz going on here today.

IIRC, he got the Stanford swim team to Zone. They ended up beating UTexas, setting some records, etc. Swimming at that level is extremely demanding. I can't fathom how anybody doing more than one event longer than about 6 meters can get by on the Zone.

I tried it myself to see what it was all about. I went from about 215 to 182 in a few weeks. My wife told me I looked like a bitch and to start eating like a man. I was actually decently strong but not like I was at 215+. The slight hunger puts you a little on edge and makes you feel "ready" (it's limited to the feeling; I do just as well conditioning when I feel like crap after gas station taquitos). Maybe that feeling is what the @Fers like.

I haven't met the Martins, but everybody speaks well of them. To be sure, he is a kool-aid drinker, but Jeff has always been extremely polite in correspondence with me. Connor did straight @F for awhile, but they added barbell movements in to get him stronger. The @F Kids programming is more sensible than the main page. I also understand their gym to be well supervised. No rhabdo cases out of there.

[odin]

Apparently @CF Budapest fags like to compete pasty white vs. tanned.

"hey meeester, me and my friend suck you dry 10 euro".

[T200]

I thought this was good:

Tips for writing a best selling diet book

(from Hawley, J. and L. Burke. Peak Performance: training and nutrition strategies for sport, Sydney: Allen and Unwin, 1998)

* Have impressive sounding qualifications in a medically related field
* Be controversial. Slam the current world experts on health and nutrition, and the guidelines for healthy eating.
* Claim an amazing new scientific understanding. Fill pages with complicated biochemistry explained in simple language.
* Claim that your diet will cure all manner of diseases and health problems, including heart disease, cancer, diabetes and aids. Prove this with case histories.
* Provide a complicated set of rules about foods that can't be eaten, or even worse, foods that can't be eaten at the same time.
* Have sports stars, film stars and political heavy weights follow and flourish on your diet - or at least be rumoured to.
* Best of all, promise that weight loss will occur while the dieter can eat as much as they like.

http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition ... _zone_diet

Good list. Will check against Rob Wolf's book when it comes out but I think I know the outcome already.

Lyle McDonald FTW over every faggot in nutrition.

[KingSchmaltzBagelHour]

Enter the Zone talked about swimmers and some other athletes and that there was a legit study done on them, but that study has never, in my recollection, surfaced.

There are some legit lulz going on here today.

IIRC, he got the Stanford swim team to Zone. They ended up beating UTexas, setting some records, etc. Swimming at that level is extremely demanding. I can't fathom how anybody doing more than one event longer than about 6 meters can get by on the Zone.

I tried it myself to see what it was all about. I went from about 215 to 182 in a few weeks. My wife told me I looked like a bitch and to start eating like a man. I was actually decently strong but not like I was at 215+. The slight hunger puts you a little on edge and makes you feel "ready" (it's limited to the feeling; I do just as well conditioning when I feel like crap after gas station taquitos). Maybe that feeling is what the @Fers like.

I haven't met the Martins, but everybody speaks well of them. To be sure, he is a kool-aid drinker, but Jeff has always been extremely polite in correspondence with me. Connor did straight @F for awhile, but they added barbell movements in to get him stronger. The @F Kids programming is more sensible than the main page. I also understand their gym to be well supervised. No rhabdo cases out of there.

Dude might be polite, but he is still a fuck in my book.
Wears kilts. 'nuff said.
And hell, most descriptions of serial killers by their neighbors include "polite".

[The Ginger Beard Man]

Wears kilts. 'nuff said.

Be careful. There's a lot of HG people here.

[T200]

Jay Assman faggotry continues at PM:

Gant, it is a good and bad scenario. With Progenix coming on board you will see the further exposure of CF and more and more people getting involved and that is a good thing.

But what this MAY do is make the Games itself such that people are entering and winner as to the manner you describe. One way HQ can combat this is to only allow members of CF gyms in the regionals and finals, but that rule can be twisted and abused so easily as well, not to mention the bad PR from that when people say "see CF thinks its so elite that it won't let anyone enter".

Even still, the Games itself are so varied in their events that there is no guarantee that undrafted SS could run 4 miles over hilly terrain or do a muscle-up.

Its one of those wait and see deals.

With growth will come "selling out", and I know CF has before looked down on protein supplements so this partnership comes as a surprise to many, but I'm willing to see how it plays out before passing judgement as to its result.

Plus, Gant, the best ATHLETES win all the time, regardless of past CF experience. Khalipa is an athlete, Salo is a freak of nature, Tonya Wagner was an excellent athlete from my home area, and that Icelandic chick (the 19 year old) is another one who is a studette. They can train for general GPP and strength and still do well. I know there are more out there, the average CF man and woman can't compete with that, and they won't. Genetics plays a massive role in that kind of success and with the further exposure of this, it will play an even larger role I think.

Garrett, I disagree with the cronyism part. I don't think networks care about that, I think they care about ratings and ad dollars and right now CF won't produce that, hell the WSM doesn't produce that in America so I don't expect to see CF with a prime-time ESPN slot anytime soon.

And I agree with the drug tests, they need to be done with more scrutiny and more carefully.

[Gin Master]

Wears kilts. 'nuff said.

Be careful. There's a lot of HG people here.

Indeed. Nothing wrong with a kilt.

[WildGorillaMan]

There are some legit lulz going on here today.

That may be so, but there's also waaaaaay too many picz of shirtless homos going on. Let's balance the scales here.

[Yes I Have Balls]

There are some legit lulz going on here today.

That may be so, but there's also waaaaaay too many picz of shirtless homos going on. Let's balance the scales here.

@fit Budapest to the rescue!

[TerryB]

Jesus Christ! Did the FUGLY train make a stop on page 507??

[T200]

It sure as fuck did.

And yet the faggotry bar was raised so significantly by the Christmas pic that those chicks still managed to serve some purpose.

[TerryB]

Well c'mon guys, at least nudge the meter the other direction a little.

[Yes I Have Balls]

@Fit Emerald Coast

[TerryB]

@Fit Emerald Coast

Holy shit, is that BJ Penn?

[T200]

Too fat to be Penn. He's been training with THE MARV!

[WildGorillaMan]

@fit fucks up every modal domain they touch, from Kookyballs



to Powerlifting:

http://crossfitbrandx.com/images/upload ... yssaDL.jpg

Especially Weightlifting:



And even Capoeira:




However, it does have it's redeeming assets:

[WildGorillaMan]

@Fit Emerald Coast

That is in fact what monkeys like to see.

[T200]

Especially Weightlifting:

WTF kind of bumper plate is that? A super thick York-like 55lber but only weighing like 5lbs or something? Ridiculous.

[WildGorillaMan]

WTF kind of bumper plate is that? A super thick York-like 55lber but only weighing like 5lbs or something? Ridiculous.

I don't know either, but when I find out Ima gonna order ten of them and spray paint them red before opening an affiliate.

[lasalle]

And yet the faggotry bar was raised so significantly by the Christmas pic that those chicks still managed to serve some purpose.

Just realized that the only photos I've posted have been of guys. This is how rumors get started. Let me fix that shit right now.

[WildGorillaMan]