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steamboatwillie wrote:Ross Enamit's stuff is oriented towards the Ultra-GPP inclined and is scalable to the trainee. Furthermore, he is not an asshole or a cultist. In fact, he is very responsive over email and seems to be all around good guy.

In the past, whenever one of my buddies was telling me about this cool Matt Furey faux-kombat shit they were psyched about, I would always tell them to borrow my Enamiat boook instead. Now when they tell me about how they just heard that XFit is badass, I'll lend them the same book. Fuck those psychos.
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It all comes back around, as it always does, to the fit for what question.

If you decide CF is your sport and you work hard at it for a year you'll get good at it. But you won't be particularly good at anything, Oly, PL, track, gymnastics....pullups isn't a sport.

WIth Pavel the first question is always - what are you trying to do? Then you pick tools, and the first advice is always skill practice first. It's the assertion, without any proof at all (despite the other assertion that everything at CF is tested in the real world) that that it's the best way, sometimes with minor modification to train, period.

Rob Wolf, in the last Performance Menu, talked about how much strength he lost since he started CF. I think that's why the girls actually look so good - it's a great way to train to lean out and loss BF. Matt G., one of the guys who always has the top times, weighs about 165. But in that sense, i.e. if that's your goal, you don't need all those tools, one KB or one DB, HOC, some Maxwell circuits, Ross' stuff, Scrappers, go to the beach and run and do pushups, whatever.

The "fitness is a sport" marketing is a good idea and they do a good job with posting the WOD and times so that you can be working out at home and still be "competing". When they go beyond that and claim huge chunks of sport are subsets of their "grand ultimate supreme" black box system (which we now know is watered down from the ninja secret experimental workouts Coach does) it's just silly.


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http://forum.dragondoor.com/training/message/380803/

Jeff may not be, shall we say, "getting it". Glassman swoopes in after hearing that a SRKC resigned and invites him to be the "KB" representative at CF. Glassman is "open minded" as long as your of one mind with him. I wonder if Jeff has seen Glassman's latest veiws on KBs.

And my understanding was that the "hardline" was JDCs who gave him an ultimatum when he refused to stop offering a competing KB to his students at DARC. I was not going to post about this but since he is, why not.

Jeff's a REALLY nice guy but he's being used by a REALLY not nice guy.


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Note how the moonie disappears when confronted with logic.


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It's a mescaline tripping kabuki theatre clusterfuck where everybody over there is trying to ignore the crazy oompa loompa masturbating in the middle of the cocktail party.
ROFL. That's beautiful. If you could have fitted the word "Mongolian" in there somehow I would have had it cast on a bronze plaque for my office.

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Good lord, the smackdown on poor Josh was awful...

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Pukie is great. Although I haven't met him personally yet, I have made acquaintance with his less evil twin. I printed a copy of his picture off your site and posted it on the bulletin board in my basement gym. He is now a reminder for me to "be all I can be and give all I've got" during workouts.

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They are covering the science behind puking right now. You can’t make it up.


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The physiology of the whole process is pretty interesting and involves a lot of factors (including psychological). Hypoxia, acidosis and electrolyte abnormalities come to mind as triggers of the chemoreceptor trigger zone that may conceivably occur during a tough workout. There is certainly shunting of blood from the GI tract to skeletal muscle during exercise but food in your stomach + exercise doesn't necessarily = pukie. However, overdistending your stomach during exercise (fluids, etc.) can predispose it to happening.
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As I must confess to having that "rubber necking at a car accident on the side of the road" kind of fascination with all this CF-IG-DD interaction, yet I simply don't have the time to read huge threads on different sites, various blogs, "deadend" ( ie; deleted ) links, etc... would someone please post a link to the Glassman on Josh material.


While I'm at it, just one more question. Several months ago, Bill Fox was, I thought, enjoying CF work. In a nutshell, what happened ?


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Cayenne wrote:While I'm at it, just one more question. Several months ago, Bill Fox was, I thought, enjoying CF work. In a nutshell, what happened ?
Wouldn't we all like to know the answer to that question.

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It's at the bottom of this blog page: CF blog
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[quote="ultracool"]I’m sure this has already been covered. Did you see the blog on 1.4.06 where Glassman goes after that Josh Hillis ? (You have to scroll down. )

http://www.crossfit.com/mt-archive2/001021.html

Mr. Glassman isn’t a very nice person. LOL!

Glassman says DD people said:

“…claiming CrossFit to be of limited efficacy…â€
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Renegade Doughboy wrote:Bill is a fitness butterfly.
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True knowledge indeed.

I have been a "dialtante" over the last few years - learned alot both good and stupid. Oodly enough have wound up right beack where I was 15 years ago working at maxcercise - go figure.
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6,400...bichos.
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bill fox wrote:True knowledge indeed.

I have been a "dialtante" over the last few years - learned alot both good and stupid. Oodly enough have wound up right beack where I was 15 years ago working at maxcercise - go figure.
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Hello,
New to CrossFit. I've been studying the site for almost a month now and I have two questions.

1) What do the references to Koolaid mean?
2) I've recently read a few references to "Painstorm 7". I put it in the search engine, but I couldn't make sense of what I was reading. What is Painstorm 7?

Thanks
Koolaid and Painstorm
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I found the Painstorms 6-8 right where Jeff said they would be. Thank you everyone, for taking the time to answer my questions.

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Your warning has been taken to heart. At my current level of conditioning I think the Painstorms would send me skipping along, holding hands with Pukie while we searched for the wonderful wizard of Rhabdo. Thanks
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UltraCool, I was just fucking with those Cultfit losers and here you go crossposting. Have you ever heard of sublety ?


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CF Craig wrote:UltraCool, I was just fucking with those Cultfit losers and here you go crossposting. Have you ever heard of sublety ?
Sorry.

I am obsessed with CF’s obsession with puke. I’m going to try to stop now.

That was funny.
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GoDogGo! wrote:Andy, my guess is that his claim comes from the stabilization provided by the bar. With the bar you can lose the weight to the front or back, but the sides are largely stabilized by holding the bar. Not so with KBs.

But still, no studies of such, and there aren't a lot of seriously heavy KBs laying around to do it with, either. A more realistic comparison would be between power cleans/snatches and KB lifts, since that's really what the KB lifts are as commonly performed.

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8K Another thousand hits in less than an hour. Holy shit.
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Why the sudden flurry?
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Fat Cat wrote:Why the sudden flurry?
Somebody probably linked to it on T-Nation or similar, or back-channel moonie conspiracies are being discussed.

Ideally, this thread will pop up early on a "CrossFit" google search within a few days.
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