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Shooting and homicides still high, prosecutors are using creative tactics to get long sentences, and the sentences are primarily impacting people of color. What should people make of this? What are Chicagoans making of this? https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/cri ... story.html
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General thoughts, I have no idea what to do about kids who want to shoot other kids and post evidence on social media. It's pretty horrific and I would dread being a parent trying to raise a kid in Engelwood or Garfield Park. Shootings where I lived partly prompted a move to a safer part of the city.

Schools prompted a move to the burbs. Funding public schools based on the wealth, or lack thereof, of the surrounding neighborhood is a nightmare. You get people like me who like the city, and value racial/economic diversity, but won't send their kids to bad public schools. There are pockets with excellent public, magnet, and charter, schools, but property values there skyrocket, and managing commutes for magnet schools is challenging. In less desirable areas you get a housing tier for young families with pre-K kids, a tier for those who will shell out for private school, and a much lower tier for those who send their kids to public schools. You can make it work, but it's difficult. The system is self-reinforcing and middle class and up neighborhoods fund-raise aggressively, further increasing the disparity.

This extends further to hospitals. I recall a black pastor saying there wasn't a hospital within something like 5 miles of his neighborhood, and I scoffed. Chicago isn't that big. It was true.

All this extends to grocery stores, ease of commute, impacting how much time parents can spend with their kids.

It's important to not take the overall progress for granted, pre-1994 or so was a bad time to live all over the place in terms of violent crime. Still, this stuff is terrible. American cities are great places to live unless you're poor.
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Sure let's not blame ghetto culture for shootings. Instead, it's all THE MAN.


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Someone here was an EMT or something and mentioned how the rig gets looted for drugz all the time in the hood. Plus there's the safety issue. There are reasons for a lot of things and it doesn't all reduce to those gweedy selfish wacict whites.

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Let's not let a society-wide sense of right and wrong get in the way of virtue signalling, nor should we hold our melanin-rich brothers to the high standard of 'personal responsibility', after all, it's a racist idea that someone is mostly in charge of their own actions

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Hopefully next time there's an Antifa or Capitol riot or school shooting we can have a conversation about rampaging, murderous, entitled whites.

In the meantime, given poor black neighborhoods are primarily the victims of gang violence, not the perpetrators, I tend to draw a distinction between the bangers and the people around them. Gang membership represents a tiny fraction of the population. They're not handing out Glocks to every 14 year old.

But I'd like to hear from the other racists on this before firming up an opinion.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:20 pm Hopefully next time there's an Antifa or Capitol riot or school shooting we can have a conversation about rampaging, murderous, entitled whites.
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Once again, spells, you are ignoring the fact that the people victimizing poor, black neighborhoods are also the same people living in them.

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God Damn Chicago sucks!! Took the kids shopping downtown and didnt even get out of the car. Left and went to a suburban mall. Fuck the Democratic Illinois, that creepy thing they call mayor and the fat fuck who runs the state. And fuck the covid paranoid assholes too. I was hoping more of them betas would die off.
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tough old man wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:18 pm God Damn Chicago sucks!! Took the kids shopping downtown and didnt even get out of the car. Left and went to a suburban mall. Fuck the Democratic Illinois, that creepy thing they call mayor and the fat fuck who runs the state. And fuck the covid paranoid assholes too. I was hoping more of them betas would die off.
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tough old man wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:18 pm God Damn Chicago sucks!! Took the kids shopping downtown and didnt even get out of the car. Left and went to a suburban mall. Fuck the Democratic Illinois, that creepy thing they call mayor and the fat fuck who runs the state. And fuck the covid paranoid assholes too. I was hoping more of them betas would die off.
Shit, TOM, really? I was going to spend a night in Chicago early January before coming back from holidays in Michigan, hitting the Shed Aquarium and maybe the Museum and do some shopping.

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Turdacious wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:22 pmLet’s get an expert opinion. https://blacklivesmatter.com/statement- ... aNycGzNB70
I'm not certain but it seems like the BLM crowd views that website as charlatan grafters. That Abdullah lady is a crank.
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Shit, TOM, really? I was going to spend a night in Chicago early January before coming back from holidays in Michigan, hitting the Shed Aquarium and maybe the Museum and do some shopping.
We went to see Sebastian Manascalco at the united center. Had to have a vax card. But once inside all masks were off. That was an enjoyable experience. It was a big change from the week before. BUT we ate at the Chicago Diner (oldest vegan restaurant) and they were strict as hell, but the food is so good that we put up with it.
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