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Easily the funniest (and snarkiest) thing I've seen today. =D> =D>
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No shit sherlock, and good luck getting that:

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=67758
I was thinking about something.

Crossfit's definition of health is the ability to sustain fitness. Mr. Glassman claims that any "disease, illness, or injury will manifest itself as reduced work capacity...therefore, the only way to sustain the highest levels of fitness is to avoid, or at least minimize, disease, illness, and injury."

Given this definition, wouldn't we need to know Crossfit's rates of injury to evaluate whether it promotes good health (compared to other activities)?

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:No shit sherlock, and good luck getting that:

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=67758
I was thinking about something.

Crossfit's definition of health is the ability to sustain fitness. Mr. Glassman claims that any "disease, illness, or injury will manifest itself as reduced work capacity...therefore, the only way to sustain the highest levels of fitness is to avoid, or at least minimize, disease, illness, and injury."

Given this definition, wouldn't we need to know Crossfit's rates of injury to evaluate whether it promotes good health (compared to other activities)?
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I have never gotten injured with greater frequency than since I started CF.
That said, I have never recovered more quickly from injury, understood my body's signals better, or been able to maintain a slow, inexorable drive towards higher levels of strength and fitness while succumbing to minor injuries since I started CF. I think it's a good trade: Minor aches and pains every day, but the ability to train smarter to overcome potential chronic problems.
Hey dumbass, don't you think those constant minor injuries might develop into something chronic after a while? Nobody's done @fit long enough to feel the arthritis in every joint you stresses to the max 5 days a week for years on end doing stupid shit.

I can't wait until we see some age on current @fitters and see how many need a walker to hobble down the fucking sidewalk. ELEEEET!!!
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Mike A Greene

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I have never gotten injured with greater frequency than since I started CF.
That said, I have never recovered more quickly from injury, understood my body's signals better, or been able to maintain a slow, inexorable drive towards higher levels of strength and fitness while succumbing to minor injuries since I started CF. I think it's a good trade: Minor aches and pains every day, but the ability to train smarter to overcome potential chronic problems.
Wow. Textbook example of a hyperchondriac (learn this term, folks, @F has mastered the creation of this new disorder).
hyperchondriac:
The persistent conviction that one is never or is likely to never become ill, often involving blatant disregard for emergent symptoms, and persisting despite reassurance and medical evidence to the contrary.

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Congrats on 1000+ posts.

I think Arthur deVany notes (and it could be a quote from elsewhere) that constant, small trauma is more cancer "causing" (or whatever) than acute short stress. So, "aches and pains," like long distance running, could be the wrong idea for longevity. I think longevity is part of the health concept. "Healing faster" could also mean just about anything...even just that the perception of healing is happening.

By the way, I am also glad that people cut and paste idiocy here. Early in this thread, we had some classic stuff magically vanish from the site that can't be named. I had a nice talk with one of the moderators there a year or so later and it was an interesting discussion about egos.


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Danny John wrote:Congrats on 1000+ posts.

I think Arthur deVany notes (and it could be a quote from elsewhere) that constant, small trauma is more cancer "causing" (or whatever) than acute short stress. So, "aches and pains," like long distance running, could be the wrong idea for longevity.
Like this?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... FQnc&gid=5
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Yogalete wrote:
Danny John wrote:Congrats on 1000+ posts.

I think Arthur deVany notes (and it could be a quote from elsewhere) that constant, small trauma is more cancer "causing" (or whatever) than acute short stress. So, "aches and pains," like long distance running, could be the wrong idea for longevity.
Like this?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... FQnc&gid=5
That is gold.

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Jay wrote:
Yogalete wrote:
Danny John wrote:Congrats on 1000+ posts.

I think Arthur deVany notes (and it could be a quote from elsewhere) that constant, small trauma is more cancer "causing" (or whatever) than acute short stress. So, "aches and pains," like long distance running, could be the wrong idea for longevity.
Like this?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... FQnc&gid=5
That is gold.
That's sad as hell.

This dude's health and fitness routine leaves him more jacked up than most NFL players after a full season.
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Yogalete wrote:
Danny John wrote:Congrats on 1000+ posts.

I think Arthur deVany notes (and it could be a quote from elsewhere) that constant, small trauma is more cancer "causing" (or whatever) than acute short stress. So, "aches and pains," like long distance running, could be the wrong idea for longevity.
Like this?
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreads ... FQnc&gid=5
That's not real, is it? It's some sort of highly detailed satire, like The Onion, or the Andover Baptist website?

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Wonder if he ever reached his goal in becoming a man?
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Assuming that he was training at an average box that charges $150/month, the 32 months reflected on that spreadsheet equals an investment of $4800 in gym fees alone, and that's not counting Certs attended or miscellaneous expenses, such as chiropractor and doctor visits, prescription refills, massage therapy, bags of Progenix™ protein powder, replacement Vibram Five Fingers and assorted board shorts and maybe at least one trip to a tattoo parlor.
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it takes perseverance and sacrifice to be eleeet. some of you guys seem to be under the impression that you can just win at sports or something, but that's not what eleeet is about.
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So from Feb 2008 to August 2010, I counted 142 days with issues for this guy. The insight I got from this is that he is using pain and injury to deload. It is not unlike what I hear from every article I write at t-nation: the guys will say that my programs are pussy because we include easy weeks and try to fail or miss in training. My biggest takeaway was how impressed I was: most of the people I know who crossfit rarely get over the nine month mark...but, that is probably the standard in the whole fitness industry.

The guy was at least honest: hemorrhoids and ankles and wrists and "sore" and all the rest...my journals have little "hints" about pain, but I am not sure I would consider them as bad as he does.


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I don't even care to watch the video, but the text summary says it all. Good football players (and strong athletes from other power sports) are coming in to crush @Fers at their own exercise game:
http://games.crossfit.com/features/vide ... ian-conway
A First Time Competitor: South West's Adrian Conway
This year, Adrian Conway jumped into the Open in the stacked South West Region. It was his first time competing in CrossFit, but the former Weber State running back finished second in the region, ahead of previous top Games finishers Matt Chan, Pat Burke, and Tommy Hackenbruck.
I like how they put the "but" in there, like it takes a long time for an athletic specimen to learn @F's signature moves and come in and crush everyone else. Adrian better not say anything bad about @FHQ or his days are numbered.

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Apparently, Rhabdo is real and now all of a sudden is serious. Of course, it's all the affiliates' fault. Brilliant.

http://journal.crossfit.com/2011/06/rha ... isited.tpl

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Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently, Rhabdo is real and now all of a sudden is serious. Of course, it's all the affiliates' fault. Brilliant.

http://journal.crossfit.com/2011/06/rha ... isited.tpl
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Good article, how about one on SLAP tears?
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It is known that eccentric or “negative” muscle contractions are more often associated with exertional rhabdomyolysis. Eccentric movements are particularly stressful for muscles because the muscle cells are lengthening while trying to contract. This “stretching” increases muscle tension and predisposes the muscle cell to injury. Eccentric contractions are a component of many movements, such as jumping pull-ups, the deceleration or lowering phase of lifts, push-ups and running downhill—to mention a few. In fact, after review of the known cases of rhabdomyolysis in the CrossFit community, these movements were often part of the workouts that preceded the condition.
I have to believe that in an unbiased article (written by someone NOT employed by @FHQ, as this gentleman is) on this subject, a sentence following the bolded one would say something to the effect of:

"Due to observed correlations between particular exercises and increased occurrence of rhabdomyolysis, the rationale and cost-benefit ratio of using these exercises should be thoroughly re-examined in light of the knowledge that we have gained through real-world experience."

That would be using SCIENCE to guide them, as they claim to do. Never going to happen though.

A guy named Dan John might look at things that way...oh yeah...we all know what @F did with him. :rolleyes: :-#

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sanchezero wrote:it takes perseverance and sacrifice to be eleeet. some of you guys seem to be under the impression that you can just win at sports or something, but that's not what eleeet is about.
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WildGorillaMan wrote:Assuming that he was training at an average box that charges $150/month, the 32 months reflected on that spreadsheet equals an investment of $4800 in gym fees alone, and that's not counting Certs attended or miscellaneous expenses, such as chiropractor and doctor visits, prescription refills, massage therapy, bags of Progenix™ protein powder, replacement Vibram Five Fingers and assorted board shorts and maybe at least one trip to a tattoo parlor.
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Words of wisdom for the 21st century:

Well I guess my goal would be to maximize my gains according to my genetics (similar to the paleo diet's philosophy). In other words, if I were born in 30,000 BC, whatever exercise I would do to get food, survive, etc I would like to repeat here in 2011. That way my body fits its genetic profile - and that's healthy. I just can't really picture a situation a situation that mimics a bench press, that occurs often at least.
http://board.crossfit.com/showpost.php? ... ostcount=8

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Well, for starters, cancel your rental agreement or, if you own a home, put it up on the market. Step two would ideally mean getting rid of your computer, but since you can't post retarded shit on the internet without it, you can save that for last. Now what you have to do is get rid of your clothes, your TV, any material possessions. In fact, you know what? Fuck it, just burn your goddamn house down, you're going to need the heat tonight anyway. The next step is to learn to hunt so you don't starve to death. But we're getting ahead of things; none of that matters too much, because you have no idea how to live without modern conveniences like supermarkets and other pretentious faggots on the internet telling you how to conform to the latest stupid shit to come out of a self-appointed expert's mouth.

Turns out living in 30,000 BC life was short and miserable and you'd be dead because nature abhors a faggot.

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Jag Panzer wrote:Well, for starters, cancel your rental agreement or, if you own a home, put it up on the market. Step two would ideally mean getting rid of your computer, but since you can't post retarded shit on the internet without it, you can save that for last. Now what you have to do is get rid of your clothes, your TV, any material possessions. In fact, you know what? Fuck it, just burn your goddamn house down, you're going to need the heat tonight anyway. The next step is to learn to hunt so you don't starve to death. But we're getting ahead of things; none of that matters too much, because you have no idea how to live without modern conveniences like supermarkets and other pretentious faggots on the internet telling you how to conform to the latest stupid shit to come out of a self-appointed expert's mouth.

Turns out living in 30,000 BC life was short and miserable and you'd be dead because nature abhors a faggot.
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