It certainly makes you care, which is half the battle.johno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:40 pmnafod wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:20 pmIt does offer you insight into what it is like to actually be in the shooting gallery, and what the level of tolerability of this should be. Your post upstream kind of suggested only the dead ones are victims (the odds of getter nag killed are minuscule). The kids understand it in a way that we don't, that that is not true. They've "seen the elephant " to borrow an analogy from the ground forces in Iraq.johno wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:12 pmnafod wrote: ↑Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:15 pmThat's a horrible analogy. You'd sue Boeing if ther plane didn't perform as advertised (safely get you from A to B). Here, the product is performing exactly as it is designed perform as a weapon designed to kill lots of people quickly.Those kids have no more credibility to impose their gun control opinions than plane crash survivors have to dictate aeronautics to Boeing.
Way to miss the point. Which is that being a victim does not grant you any particular wisdom, nor any special insight into a solution.
Way to miss the point. Which is that being a victim does not grant you any particular wisdom, nor any special insight into a solution.
The gun owning folks have been winning the enthusiasm battle since forever, which makes sense since you really don't form organizations based around not having something. I can't think of any domain where people gather to enjoy not having a thing. The non-skiers of America, or people that hold "I don't have a pickup truck" rallies. The organizing principle for the "gun grabbers" is they don't want to be shot and killed, which is still a poor theme for a club. Now, here's where the government would step in, but of course the government is on the gun owner's side right now.
But the ones who have stared down the shooting end of a barrel of some terrorists are more motivated for sure.