bernie

[Protobuilder]

It's going to be hilarious watching conservatives pull out their usual, "the most far-left candidate in history" for Hillary when Bernie is gunning for the Democrat nomination.

Actually, that's a good point.

Calling Hillary far-left is laughable regardless of who is running.

[Jonny Canuck]

I'm hoping he sticks around until the debates and then runs as an independent. But then again, I'm an immigrant socialist.

[Testiclaw]

It's going to be hilarious watching conservatives pull out their usual, "the most far-left candidate in history" for Hillary when Bernie is gunning for the Democrat nomination.

Actually, that's a good point.

Calling Hillary far-left is laughable regardless of who is running.

Yeah, there really aren't any true lefties here. Bernie is sometimes called a socialist, but even his ideas aren't quite there.

I just get a kick out of the right shrieking about how the current Democrat nominee is the "leftist ever in the history of lefties".

In any case, this country has far right, and right-of-center candidates.

I'd like more solid lefties, but even I have to imagine that conservatives wouldn't mind a wider spectrum of right-wing candidates to choose from.

We pretend to have a wide political debate or spectrum in this country, but the truth is what we have is a lively debate in a very, very narrow, limited sliver of possibilities. It's a shame, for both sides.

[dead man walking]

In today’s Democratic Party, the most powerful grievance is the one that brought thousands into Zuccotti Park in 2011, powered Bill De Blasio’s upset victory in New York, and has made Elizabeth Warren a progressive folk hero. It’s the belief that the super-rich have distorted America’s economy and bought its government. It’s a grievance so powerful that it’s seeped not only into Hillary's rhetoric, but also into Ted Cruz's. And from the Clinton Foundation scandals to the Republican candidates’ shameless pandering to billionaires, the presidential campaign itself seems poised to inflame that grievance even more.

Sanders is better positioned to exploit this resentment against the one percent that many pundits understand.

[Pinky]

And Japan works just fine as far as the Japanese are concerned.

Japan is a demographic nightmare and the Japanese are very worried about it.

They don't believe that is a political issue. The machine works fine, they just can't find the fuel.

You're absurdly wrong.

[Gary John]

I'm a huge Bernie fan. All the liberals are always quoting him on Facebook. I will vote for him. I live in the San Francisco Bay Area, so no use voting for a republican. I want a t-shirt that says "Bernie, the commie you always wanted".

Bernie-Ross Perot ticket would be the best. Old crazy guys rule.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

I really want to know what can be worse than the corporate bought pandering and suspension of the writ of law and just plain war and money mongering that has occurred full time since Reagan

[Alfred_E._Neuman]

I really want to know what can be worse than the corporate bought pandering and suspension of the writ of law and just plain war and money mongering that has occurred full time since Reagan

I'd tear my fucking rotator cuff voting for whatever candidate would sack up and speak this much truth
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHSXUS0_1c[/youtube]

[Gene]

“Today, 99 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent,” Mr. Sanders said in a news conference in the Capitol to introduce legislation that would break up the banks that are deemed “too big to fail.”

“The top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent," he said.

Pareto's law/observation seemed to work even in socialist countries. The Communist Party USSR controlled most of the nation's wealth but only represented about two percent of the population.

Senator Sanders is selling another pipe dream to gullible "have nots" who cry about injustice while wanting to embark on Sisyphean struggles like "achieving equality of outcome" or "ending racism" or some other impossible dream.

He'll go nowhere. At least he's a nice foil to that Grifter from Arkansas who appeals to Vagina voters. They can see what a real socialist looks like compared to the "Champion of the Middle Class".

“If an institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist, and that is the bottom line,” Mr. Sanders said.

Which means what? That we should nationalize it?

[Protobuilder]

I think that people should vote for Bernie to see how gone the system really is. If he falls to his knees and begins fellating Wall Street within 9 months like every other President in recent history, we can assume that it's irrevocably broken.

[TerryB]

I think that people should vote for Bernie to see how gone the system really is. If he falls to his knees and begins fellating Wall Street within 9 months like every other President in recent history, we can assume that it's irrevocably broken.

Can't we assume that from the fact that he can't raise the billion dollars needed to successfully run for President in the first place?

[dead man walking]

“If an institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist, and that is the bottom line,” Mr. Sanders said.

Which means what? That we should nationalize it?

from bernie's speech introducing legislation to break-up the banks:

Today, just six huge financial institutions have assets of nearly $10 trillion which is equal to nearly 60 percent of GDP. These huge banks handle more than two-thirds of all credit card purchases, write over 35 percent of the mortgages, and control nearly half of all bank deposits in this country.

If Teddy Roosevelt were alive today, do you know what he would say? He would say break 'em up. And he would be right. And that's exactly what I plan to do.

A bill that I've written would require financial regulators within one year to identify and break-up huge financial institutions like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo and Morgan Stanley so that they can never again cause another financial crisis like the one that happened in 2008.

I

[Turdacious]

The function of banking should be to provide affordable loans to businesses to create jobs. The function of banking should be to provide affordable loans to Americans to purchase homes and cars.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-berni ... 33284.html

Eh? Being required to provide affordable home loans to people who didn't qualify for them is one of the reasons the system broke in the first place. How are Fannie and Freddie doing?

[dead man walking]

you added"to people who don't qualify"

create a strawman and then knock it down

bullshit argument

why do you want to protect exploitive bankers and wall street manipulators?

[Turdacious]

you added"to people who don't qualify"

create a strawman and then knock it down

bullshit argument

why do you want to protect exploitive bankers and wall street manipulators?

Did you not follow the 2008 crisis at all? And giving a government agency a 'go figure it out mandate' has historically worked terribly.

[dead man walking]

the crisis that occurred during the bush administration, while pro-market alan greenspan was in charge of the fed?

why are you an apologist for the guys who get it wrong?

[Turdacious]

the crisis that occurred during the bush administration, while pro-market alan greenspan was in charge of the fed?

why are you an apologist for the guys who get it wrong?

I forgot that the SNL crisis and the Clinton era tax and banking law changes happened under W. Silly me. Just curious but when did the bank mergers start?

[Turdacious]

He's right. But the thing they miss that cultural uniformity is the reason for the season. No Euro country with even a third of our diversity has made that system work. And even then, the model students in Scandy are all moving to the center if not the Right.

What political system wouldn't "work" if the given country was 99% racially, culturally and religiously uniform?

And Japan works just fine as far as the Japanese are concerned.

Bernie is from Vermont. Check out its demographics. He is pontificating from lake Woebegon.

[dead man walking]

of course you're right that slick willy eliminated glass steagall while getting blowed. the republicans objected only to blow jobs.

feel free to throw in some irrelevant ad hominems, such as where i live.

[Turdacious]

He's been in Congress since 1991. Guess how many pieces of legislation he's sponsored or co-sponsored that have been made into law?

One.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_San ... egislation

[dead man walking]

the point of this thread is bernie for president

get with the program

[Turdacious]

the point of this thread is bernie for president

get with the program

So we will have to wait for late in his sixth term as POTUS for him to pass anything?

[dead man walking]

that would make him a libertarian's dream candidate.

bernie!

[Testiclaw]

It's up to the President to pass laws?

Huh. Learned something new, I guess.

[Turdacious]

that would make him a libertarian's dream candidate.

bernie!

Libertarians are happy with a broken status quo?