60 dead via truck attack in Nice

[Blaidd Drwg]

It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

It takes a lot of brain-washing not to see abortion as child-murder; but then again, I fell under that spell for many decades, so I'm not really in a position to condemn others for it now.

It takes a phenomenal amount of ignorance of human biology to treat all abortions as child murder. That's not so much brainwashing as science.

[Blaidd Drwg]

It's early, but this is possibly less Islam, more Iscrazy.

You're gonna have to work pretty hard to parse the difference between this kind of "inspired by the Prophet Crazy" and the "I'm gonna kill me a cartoonist" kind of crazy. Unless it turns out he's a Charles Whitman type with a tumor the size of a golf ball in his amygdala, I think we are safe slotting this one in the usual file.

I meant early indications are he appears to have been non-religious and didn't have the typical paths to radicalization available, but was mentally ill. That could be bullshit, of course

ISIS type groups must certainly provide a welcome gravitational pull to homicidally mentally ill or just plain evil muslims. Would love to see a shrink knowledgeable in the psychology of evil provide an analysis of the emotional triggers that are tripped by ISIS propaganda. I bet they're more similar than dissimilar to those used by Hitler, Pol Pot, etc.

The lone actors remind me of the anarchists of the 1890s, running around killing folks (including President McKinley) for pretty much no reason other than they were angry unemployed losers easily manipulated by ideology.

Czolgosz had lost his job during the economic Panic of 1893 and turned to anarchism, a political philosophy adhered to by recent killers of foreign leaders. Regarding McKinley as a symbol of oppression, Czolgosz was convinced that it was his duty as an anarchist to kill him.

The fact they are pulling from a common ideology and play book with the reaction on the part of the Islamic mainstream ranging from revulsion and tepid disdain to tacit agreement doesn't give you the slightest sense that this is different not just by degree but by a whole fuckload of degrees?

[Grandpa's Spells]

Shaf said something along the lines of "if everyone was fucking someone that they were really into on a regular basis it would fix a lot of these problems."

[youtube]http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OubHHtNM94s[/youtube]

[johno]

This Truck Guy was apparently not a "Good Muslim," but a party boy. He may have gotten laid frequently.
Same with 9/11 hijackers...hitting the strip clubs & partying. IMO, given their religion, it creates a self-loathing that only suicide can erase. Sick pups.

[Blaidd Drwg]

This Truck Guy was apparently not a "Good Muslim," but a party boy. He may have gotten laid frequently.
Same with 9/11 hijackers...hitting the strip clubs & partying. IMO, given their religion, it creates a self-loathing that only suicide can erase. Sick pups.

Some ideas just suck. Religion will find those ideas and make them compulsory.

[Yes, I'm drunk]

It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

It takes a lot of brain-washing not to see abortion as child-murder; but then again, I fell under that spell for many decades, so I'm not really in a position to condemn others for it now.

It takes a phenomenal amount of ignorance of human biology to treat all abortions as child murder. That's not so much brainwashing as science.

LOL "science", says the guy who believes you can be partially pregnant.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Lol science indeed.

You just revealed everything we need to know about your mental capacities and what a moral monster you must be to sit idly by while thousands of women commit "murder" every day. If children below the age of 3 were being sent to a firing squad everyday in this country would you feel the same? Wouldn't you be doing whatever you could to stop it? Driving buses into crowds of nurse practitioners?

No...No you wouldn't because even a dolt recognizes that non viable clusters of cells are not fully human anymore than a hunk of your liver having been excised is "human."


As to "partial pregnancy" (your words not mine) I'll leave aside the semi obvious first week of quasi conception where fertilization is neither complete nor inevitable...but is "partially" complete anywhere from a few hours and 5 days after intercourse. But that's probably too complex a concept. let's just look at the terms partial pregnancy...

http://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/di ... _Pregnancy

Oh snap..good reason the clear the tubes and womb...that cell cluster ain;t going anywhere.

Jog On, Chump.

[Turdacious]

It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

It takes a lot of brain-washing not to see abortion as child-murder; but then again, I fell under that spell for many decades, so I'm not really in a position to condemn others for it now.

It takes a phenomenal amount of ignorance of human biology to treat all abortions as child murder. That's not so much brainwashing as science.

More like a symptom of your intellectual laziness-- you don't take on the best pro-life arguments, only the low hanging fruit where you think you win (constructing strawmen so you can proclaim your intellectual superiority). Your disrespect for and ignorance of the traditions you rejected are staggering-- you're better than this.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Bombing abortion clinics is terrorism....IDC what your motivation is.


Engaging with the "best arguments" for that is along the line of debating an Islamist's best arguments for genital mutilation.

[Turdacious]

Bombing abortion clinics is terrorism....IDC what your motivation is.


Engaging with the "best arguments" for that is along the line of debating an Islamist's best arguments for genital mutilation.

Nobody's defending bombing abortion clinics here; and genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. And re FGM, restricting the practice requires engagement at a local level-- engagement that's had a lot of success in recent years.

You're better than this.

[Blaidd Drwg]

Bombing abortion clinics is terrorism....IDC what your motivation is.


Engaging with the "best arguments" for that is along the line of debating an Islamist's best arguments for genital mutilation.

Nobody's defending bombing abortion clinics here; and genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. And re FGM, restricting the practice requires engagement at a local level-- engagement that's had a lot of success in recent years.

You're better than this.

I'm better than you by every possible metric at tracking the ball...what the actual fuck are you defending? Genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. One is imposed by a delusional death cultist on poor hapless sentient live children (male and female) , the other is a right to women's self determination that involves a cluster of non sentient cells that death cultists and papists would like to take away. If you want to argue that some late stage abortion practices should be curtailed to the most extreme circumstances, feel free. You'll get no argument from me as long as you take that discussion and the balance of your ticky tac bullshit somewhere else.

Terrorism is terrorism. Follow the ball or fuck the fuck off.

[Testiclaw]

[Insert comparison of abortion and organ donors here]

[Blaidd Drwg]

[Insert comparison of abortion and organ donors here]

OH NO YOU DINT?!?

[Testiclaw]

All joking aside, I do think there are parallels to the organ donation process and abortion.

If you don't agree, ahead of time, to being an organ donor, or, if you opt out of the program entirely, nothing gets taken from you when you die.

You could have the perfect match for ten different people who desperately need one of your organs to live. They could be facing imminent death, after severe suffering, but, they don't get access to any part of your body if you don't allow it.

You are dead. A chunk of meat. Done. Lights out.

It still doesn't matter: the integrity of your person remains protected, despite the coming deaths of several individuals who you could save.

A woman shouldn't be forced into abandoning her bodily autonomy simply because there's a chunk of cells that, may or may not, have the possibility of growing into a human.

It's absurd to think the opposite.

[Turdacious]

Bombing abortion clinics is terrorism....IDC what your motivation is.


Engaging with the "best arguments" for that is along the line of debating an Islamist's best arguments for genital mutilation.

Nobody's defending bombing abortion clinics here; and genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. And re FGM, restricting the practice requires engagement at a local level-- engagement that's had a lot of success in recent years.

You're better than this.

I'm better than you by every possible metric at tracking the ball...what the actual fuck are you defending? Genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. One is imposed by a delusional death cultist on poor hapless sentient live children (male and female) , the other is a right to women's self determination that involves a cluster of non sentient cells that death cultists and papists would like to take away. If you want to argue that some late stage abortion practices should be curtailed to the most extreme circumstances, feel free. You'll get no argument from me as long as you take that discussion and the balance of your ticky tac bullshit somewhere else.

Terrorism is terrorism. Follow the ball or fuck the fuck off.

That's so simplistic it's stupid.

[Blaidd Drwg]

So I guess you'll be taking door number 2.

Good news. You wont be missed.

[Testiclaw]

That really is weaksauce, coming from Turd.

[Yes, I'm drunk]

Genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. One is imposed by a delusional death cultist on poor hapless sentient live children (male and female) , the other is a right to women's self determination that involves a cluster of non sentient cells that death cultists and papists would like to take away.

Islam's approach to abortion is indistinguishable from that of any typical liberal progressivist.

i.e. it's OK up a certain point, but then it's still OK after that point because reasons.

Make of that what you will.....

[Blaidd Drwg]

Genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. One is imposed by a delusional death cultist on poor hapless sentient live children (male and female) , the other is a right to women's self determination that involves a cluster of non sentient cells that death cultists and papists would like to take away.

Islam's approach to abortion is indistinguishable from that of any typical liberal progressivist.

i.e. it's OK up a certain point, but then it's still OK after that point because reasons.

Make of that what you will.....

Even a broken clock gets right twice a day.

For Future Reference..Xtians, Papist, Islamists and Practicing Jews are all death cultists. The degree to which members of these death cults can manage in free society is directly proportional to the amount they disregard their own doctrines. With the exception of most Xtians, who disregard nearly all of the teaching of their prophet, we are universally better as a society when they keep their playbooks out of the public realm. If we could only get Xtians to be Christ like we might really have something.

[DrDonkeyLove]

This guy, the Orlando guy, and who knows how many other muslim terrorists, have a taste for dick. Cognitive dissonance run amuck?

The Bastille Day terrorist hailed by ISIS as a “soldier of Islam” had bisexual flings — and his main male squeeze was a 73-year-old retiree, investigators have revealed.

[TerryB]

It's not so much that it's a unique situation that some unhinged Jesus Freak blows up a Planned Parenthood and kills a couple nurses. That's terrorism and that's murder. We get that....the real insidious pile of shit floating in our cultural bathtub is the fact some otherwise decent hardworking regular Xtian folk look at that and say, "Well. that's kinda terrible and all, but I see his point."

It takes a lot of brain-washing not to see abortion as child-murder; but then again, I fell under that spell for many decades, so I'm not really in a position to condemn others for it now.

It takes a phenomenal amount of ignorance of human biology to treat all abortions as child murder. That's not so much brainwashing as science.

Thread the needle! Thread the needle!

[Yes, I'm drunk]

Genital mutilation and abortion are not equivalent. One is imposed by a delusional death cultist on poor hapless sentient live children (male and female) , the other is a right to women's self determination that involves a cluster of non sentient cells that death cultists and papists would like to take away.

Islam's approach to abortion is indistinguishable from that of any typical liberal progressivist.

i.e. it's OK up a certain point, but then it's still OK after that point because reasons.

Make of that what you will.....

Even a broken clock gets right twice a day.

For Future Reference..Xtians, Papist, Islamists and Practicing Jews are all death cultists.

LOL "death cultists", says the guy who's defending abortion.

[Grandpa's Spells]

LOL "death cultists", says the guy who's defending abortion.

Pretty sure that early-term abortion opposition is tied exclusively to being a certain subset of religious. Christianity has a long and changing relationship with abortion.

[Blaidd Drwg]

LOL "death cultists", says the guy who's defending abortion.

Pretty sure that early-term abortion opposition is tied exclusively to being a certain subset of religious. Christianity has a long and changing relationship with abortion.

made whole cloth out of non doctrine....

[Turdacious]

LOL "death cultists", says the guy who's defending abortion.

Pretty sure that early-term abortion opposition is tied exclusively to being a certain subset of religious.

...of religions representing a pretty wide majority of Christians.