Pinky wrote:I have no problem with the above. I'm just waiting for the "occupiers" to propose anything coherent when it comes to addressing the problem. Until then, yelling for people to "wake up" does nothing but make the coffee-shop intelligentsia feel good about themselves.
What? Got a problem with this guy's message? Heh
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What's the douchebags degree choice?
And someone needs to look over their mortgage contract. My payments fluxuate as well but they've went down as many times as they've went up and it was due to propert tax changes.
Some of these turds need to realize that they have some responsibility for how their lives turned out.
Don't talk sense Gym. The beauty of being the 99% is you sre no longer an individual, responsible for your own choices in life.
America, Home of the Victims.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
Herv100 wrote:OWS= The rich sicking the poor on the middle class
Howso? That's the point of the 99% meme - that even the upper-middle class has been as left out over the last 30 years as the middle/working/etc..
Most of the "99%" people seem to be retards who don't know shit and will be useful idiots. The result of this will be supposedly "taxing the rich", but upon closer inspection will be taxing small business/upper middle class. Like the Obama/Buffet plan: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 56900.html
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Pinky wrote:The one thing I would add, is that almost no regulation is going to be effective when companies have good reason to believe they'll be bailed out if they get into trouble. Unfortunately, I don't see any way for our government to credibly commit to a policy of no bailouts.
If I was to pick out one soundbite to capture the mood, it'd be "too big to fail = too big", i.e., we have to bail them out. Yet the crisis led to further consolidation in the industry. Doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy.
The problem is that "too big to fail" means only one thing: They have powerful friends in DC. No one bank (or car company, etc.) is so big that it's bankruptcy would cause the sky to fall even now. They're just big enough that they know their friends would save them, and they act accordingly. It's not an anti-trust issue; it's a political economy issue.
The angry art history majors of NY are protesting in the wrong place. They should be borrowing their mothers' cars to join their brethren in DC.
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."
Pinky wrote:The one thing I would add, is that almost no regulation is going to be effective when companies have good reason to believe they'll be bailed out if they get into trouble. Unfortunately, I don't see any way for our government to credibly commit to a policy of no bailouts.
If I was to pick out one soundbite to capture the mood, it'd be "too big to fail = too big", i.e., we have to bail them out. Yet the crisis led to further consolidation in the industry. Doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy.
The problem is that "too big to fail" means only one thing: They have powerful friends in DC. No one bank (or car company, etc.) is so big that it's bankruptcy would cause the sky to fall even now. They're just big enough that they know their friends would save them, and they act accordingly. It's not an anti-trust issue; it's a political economy issue.
The angry art history majors of NY are protesting in the wrong place. They should be borrowing their mothers' cars to join their brethren in DC.
This is exactly right. What's funny is most of these protesters are supporters of Obama, the most "Wallstreet" president thus far, and the king of bailouts.
It's pretty hard to just up and get out of a country when you consider all the implications, but fundamentally, I agree that he needs to step on it.
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
Gym Winderlicker wrote:What's the douchebags degree choice?
At my school we had degrees in things like Peace and Justice Studies and Gender Studies. The problem with my generation is that we have kids who graduate with the most asinine degrees and have a sense of entitlement that they should get a job just because they have a degree.
Not to bash all degrees though. Some of my best friends in college were dance majors and they worked their asses off during and after school so they could find themselves their own little niche.
It's easy to find people like that to make fun of but it's incredibly foolish to tell yourself that they represent the mass of dissatisfied Americans who see a huge double standard being applied. The little guy can suck it and the hedge fund jackass gets to skate.
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
Fat Cat wrote:It's easy to find people like that to make fun of but it's incredibly foolish to tell yourself that they represent the mass of dissatisfied Americans who see a huge double standard being applied. The little guy can suck it and the hedge fund jackass gets to skate.
I think, and hope, that almost everyone in this country can see that we are all getting screwed. Its a complicated issue with many causes and no simple solutions. But Fat Cat I am down there right now posting from my blackberry and it really is overwhelmingly a freak show.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
Fat Cat wrote:It's easy to find people like that to make fun of but it's incredibly foolish to tell yourself that they represent the mass of dissatisfied Americans who see a huge double standard being applied. The little guy can suck it and the hedge fund jackass gets to skate.
I think, and hope, that almost everyone in this country can see that we are all getting screwed. Its a complicated issue with many causes and no simple solutions. But Fat Cat I am down there right now posting from my blackberry and it really is overwhelmingly a freak show.
That may be, I am seeing all of this at a distance, but the sentiment which is driving this exists in all sectors of the population and the young always look strange to their elders.
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
Fat Cat wrote:It's easy to find people like that to make fun of but it's incredibly foolish to tell yourself that they represent the mass of dissatisfied Americans who see a huge double standard being applied. The little guy can suck it and the hedge fund jackass gets to skate.
I think, and hope, that almost everyone in this country can see that we are all getting screwed. Its a complicated issue with many causes and no simple solutions. But Fat Cat I am down there right now posting from my blackberry and it really is overwhelmingly a freak show.
That may be, I am seeing all of this at a distance, but the sentiment which is driving this exists in all sectors of the population and the young always look strange to their elders.
That was harsh. I feel old now.
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Disengage from the outcome and do work.
There's a child-like comfort for them to think that they're "doing something". But what we're seeing with this is a spectacular crash of unrealistic expectations on the rocks of real life.
This Generation Y / (Z?) expect to get at least as far as their parents. But they won't. They're fucked because they know what a good standard of living is possible for the few, they want it, they "sort of" try by getting shitty over-priced shitty degrees and then it dawns on them that they're going backwards. That's frustrating. They think they're blameless so they go through the anger and then look for someone to blame. Wall St has money so it must be guilty, right?
Wrong. The people who are guilty are the lazy, sheeple fuckwits who borrowed multiples of earning power for shitty qualifications. The guilty are the parents of these fuckwits who watched this happen and did nothing. And it's the parents, kids and the rest of the US which allows capitalism to run amok and control your apparatus of state. The people who vote for one of two identical parties. A country which is in denial that it is riding the downward crest of an orgy of exploitation of oil and resource that is running out.
Well, the only debt I have is a mortgage which is ahead of schedule and I'm pissed at the damage banks and derivatives have done to our economy so I am a counterexample to your angry and inaccurate post.
"That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy.
It is our job to see that it stays there." - George Orwell
Fat Cat wrote:Well, the only debt I have is a mortgage which is ahead of schedule and I'm pissed at the damage banks and derivatives have done to our economy so I am a counterexample to your angry and inaccurate post.
Are you occupying Wall St? Or are you posting to us sitting on your fat Hawaitian ass talking about it? Counter-example my black ass.
We have more of a Corporate capitalism than we do anything else here. So, in a sense Pacman/rant (?) is right that it's run amok, but labeling all capitalism to be the problem is quite wrong.
And fuck Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. just for good measure.
"Gentle in what you do, Firm in how you do it"
- Buck Brannaman
"The biggest problems that we’re facing right now have to do with George Bush trying to bring more and more power into the executive branch and not go through Congress at all."
