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Sua Sponte wrote:As long as the person fits in that category of <<white, black, cop, woman, man, Jew, Christian, Muslim, frat boy, good girl, athlete...>>. If that's how you mentally determine guilt, you are a bigot, regardless of political affiliation.
Gosh, wouldn't it be cool if there were some way to (usually) determine if a crime had actually occurred?
Oh yeah, there is. It's called Due Process. Thank you, Western Civilization.

But bigots of all color, black, white, feminist, journalists (especially), cop-lovers & cop-haters don't need it. They Just Know.
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We don;t live in a rape culture. We are Rape Apes. Period. Rape is normal (if objectionable) human behavior, as is murder as is altruism as it theft, as is sacrifice for the greater good. All those things should be expected of the human animal. What should also be accepted is that we nearly never argue over what *actually* happened and are busy arguing about how we feel about what might* have happened. Facts are the first to go in even the most civil of debates. The first reaction and the sides that get drawn up say more about you than any reasoned blather that extrudes from your pie holes. Due process is a semi-methodical way to play that out.

So...you are either worried about gang rape because you know it to be very not good, or you are worried about some harpy ruing lives because you know that to be very not good....everything that happens after that line gets drawn is relatively unimportant and useless infromati0on...you weren't there...
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It's a little considered fact that laws exist at least as much to protect society from itself as they do to protect society from criminals. Getting on the internet and arguing at something illogically, holding on white knuckle tight to one's prejudices, using selective data to support the view, refuting counter evidence with ad hominem, is lexical bigotry. It's also protected speech. When it transfers over to authority in the form of universities acting as judicial organizations, where the politics demand he be accepted as guilty until proven innocent and any other view is blaming the victim, then this is exactly where the law should be used to protect the rest of us from the do-gooders who know the truth, facts be damned. One of the great paradoxes coming from research into the mind is that we can think irrationally, yet still be able to know we are doing so and act to protect ourselves from it. Until we choose not to and try to pawn it off as progressive thought.


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Sua Sponte wrote:It's a little considered fact that laws exist at least as much to protect society from itself as they do to protect society from criminals. Getting on the internet and arguing at something illogically, holding on white knuckle tight to one's prejudices, using selective data to support the view, refuting counter evidence with ad hominem, is lexical bigotry. It's also protected speech. When it transfers over to authority in the form of universities acting as judicial organizations, where the politics demand he be accepted as guilty until proven innocent and any other view is blaming the victim, then this is exactly where the law should be used to protect the rest of us from the do-gooders who know the truth, facts be damned. One of the great paradoxes coming from research into the mind is that we can think irrationally, yet still be able to know we are doing so and act to protect ourselves from it. Until we choose not to and try to pawn it off as progressive thought.
Nicely put.

*The dig on progressive thought is unwarranted..given that all new ideas good bad or otherwise have gotten lumped in the oeuvre.....Fact is that life moves on and in 30 or more years we can decide to hate the Unions but still love the weekend.
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My dig is precisely that all new ideas good bad or otherwise have been lumped in the oeuvre. It's not progressive until it can be shown to result in progress. Otherwise it's like those who fail to see the irony in their belief that their point of view is the open minded one.


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I'm not sure I grok your semantics. Sounds like you're complaining about the politics of the machine, not necessarily the ideas contained therein.
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That I am, that I am.

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WildGorillaMan wrote:
Mickey O'neil wrote:I have serious reservations about sending any of my kids to college for this reason among a whole list of reasons.
I have more serious reservations about my kids being shackled to mid-five to low-six figures of student debt with no realistic ROI in the work world afterwards than the slight risk of sexual assault, honestly.

Yeah, they might get fucked by another student, but they'll definitely get fucked by the institution.
And this is another bigger reason.

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dead man walking wrote:good article on "rape" on campuses, problematic administrative procedures, failure to address the role of alcohol, etc. it's long.

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/ ... forts.html
More like a poorly structured, questionably legal, unfunded mandate from the federal government that has little effect on rape rates but a substantial effect on college tuition inflation.

Good article though.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
Sua Sponte wrote:It's a little considered fact that laws exist at least as much to protect society from itself as they do to protect society from criminals. Getting on the internet and arguing at something illogically, holding on white knuckle tight to one's prejudices, using selective data to support the view, refuting counter evidence with ad hominem, is lexical bigotry. It's also protected speech. When it transfers over to authority in the form of universities acting as judicial organizations, where the politics demand he be accepted as guilty until proven innocent and any other view is blaming the victim, then this is exactly where the law should be used to protect the rest of us from the do-gooders who know the truth, facts be damned. One of the great paradoxes coming from research into the mind is that we can think irrationally, yet still be able to know we are doing so and act to protect ourselves from it. Until we choose not to and try to pawn it off as progressive thought.
Nicely put.

*The dig on progressive thought is unwarranted..given that all new ideas good bad or otherwise have gotten lumped in the oeuvre.....Fact is that life moves on and in 30 or more years we can decide to hate the Unions but still love the weekend.
Decades after the fact, we are still discussing the great failed murderous progressive experiments of the last century. Progressive experiments like Italian Fascism, German National Socialism, Russian Bolshevism, Maoist Communism, and the Khmer Rouge.
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We discuss all kinds of bad ideas, we don't spend a lot of energy discussing old school progressivism....the Constitution, the Gutenberg bible, the Enlightenment.

Reality is apolitical
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:We discuss all kinds of bad ideas, we don't spend a lot of energy discussing old school progressivism....the Constitution, the Gutenberg bible, the Enlightenment.

Reality is apolitical

Progressivism was hijacked many many decades ago. Pretending otherwise is a waste of time.

Equating modern progressives with the men that wrote the US Constitution is a sad joke.

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Batboy2/75 wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:We discuss all kinds of bad ideas, we don't spend a lot of energy discussing old school progressivism....the Constitution, the Gutenberg bible, the Enlightenment.

Reality is apolitical

Progressivism was hijacked many many decades ago. Pretending otherwise is a waste of time.

Equating modern progressives with the men that wrote the US Constitution is a sad joke.

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Jesus tits. Tiny angry Beaner needs to read more.

If your sole context is based on the last 50 years....you sir, are a fucking Dolt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism....
Progressivism is a broad philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition. Progressivism became highly significant during the Age of Enlightenment in Europe, out of the belief that Europe was demonstrating that societies could progress in civility from barbaric conditions to civilization through strengthening the basis of empirical knowledge as the foundation of society
If you read the whole thing...you might get a thumbnail sketch of where the actual fuck your political bogeymen belong in the broader spectrum. For Fucks sake...the idea that men shoudl be able to arm themselves is fundamentally a progressive idea.
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If you let yourself get sidetracked by Maoist university professors being "progressive" you've missed the fucking point of the lion's share of western civilization. Thank god you have that AR15 thread to fall back on to make up for the rubbish you keep extruding.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:
Batboy2/75 wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:We discuss all kinds of bad ideas, we don't spend a lot of energy discussing old school progressivism....the Constitution, the Gutenberg bible, the Enlightenment.

Reality is apolitical

Progressivism was hijacked many many decades ago. Pretending otherwise is a waste of time.

Equating modern progressives with the men that wrote the US Constitution is a sad joke.

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Jesus tits. Tiny angry Beaner needs to read more.

If your sole context is based on the last 50 years....you sir, are a fucking Dolt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism....
Progressivism is a broad philosophy based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancement in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to improve the human condition. Progressivism became highly significant during the Age of Enlightenment in Europe, out of the belief that Europe was demonstrating that societies could progress in civility from barbaric conditions to civilization through strengthening the basis of empirical knowledge as the foundation of society
If you read the whole thing...you might get a thumbnail sketch of where the actual fuck your political bogeymen belong in the broader spectrum. For Fucks sake...the idea that men shoudl be able to arm themselves is fundamentally a progressive idea.

Your obsession over the word progressivism is akin to counting the number of angels that can sit on the head of a pin. Sorry you're butt hurt over the term meaning something completely different today. The fact is, the vast majority of self identified modern day Progressives are nothing more than dyed in the wool Statist Utopians and it has been that way for quite a bit longer than 50 years. The context is based on events since the French revolution.

Get over yourself you condescending self absorbed bicycling faggot.
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Batboy2/75 wrote: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtnt4lcAyMc[/youtube]

I feel ya bro...it's gotta be hard being the bluntest tool in your graduating class.

Darf's a charitable guy, maybe he can help you with a history lesson.
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Yet the drunk beaner in question can post a You tube video correctly. Lucky for you, you work in a parasitic field like law. Otherwise you'd have to make money blowing drunk beaners.

hint, take the s off of https
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There you go. You get a gold star.
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whoops..that was cruel...I forgot you probably didn't graduate...like most of your ilk, you prefer to opine on what happens on College Campuses without ever having actually been on one.
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Sorry, you lost your momentum when you fucked up posting a simple You tube video. Maybe a bike ride in your clown outfit will recharge your batteries.
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Are all the piñata salesmen in your family this dull?
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Are all the piñata salesmen in your family this dull?
Sorry, I guess we're all dull. We haven't pick up any of your WASP tendencies for gay sports and even gayer sex. The upside is, with your demographics preferred extracurricular activities, there will be less of you in 30-50 years.
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Whoops...I guess now is probably a fine a time as any to tell you, Your wife asked me not to pull out. To the plus side, my bloodlines both at home here and down in that suburban kent hole you live will thrive on....and you will get to raise a perfectly good white baby that has a hope in hell of going to college. Perhaps a first for the BB family
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Whoops...I guess now is probably a fine a time as any to tell you, Your wife asked me not to pull out. To the plus side, my bloodlines both at home here and down in that suburban kent hole you live will thrive on....and you will get to raise a perfectly good white baby that has a hope in hell of going to college. Perhaps a first for the BB family
That didn't take long. So far you've remained on script. Mom will be next and not to soon after you'll paradoxically call me a me a Nazi. You sadly have no imagination at all. One would get the impression from your posts you're under the delusion that you invented the word beaner. You're like the retard that has discovered "bad words" for the first time.

Come on, you can do better. If not, just come to terms with your demographics fate. It will make sitting through your grand daughters Quinceañera much easier.
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