The couch thread

[TerryB]

More pub for Couch.

http://www.idontlikeyouinthatway.com/20 ... g-off.html

"It's like bootcamp!"

Sure it is, sweety. Just like it! Only, no service required. And mohawks, board shorts, & wallet chains aren't allowed.

[CultBuster]

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53216

At 1st I thought the form nazis were being their usual overally critical douches, but I looked at some videos from this DiMeo clown....http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/vi ... 9e6f002459

FUCKING AWESOME!

Sears AND Wolf are quacks

I gotta give some cred to Wolf. He was getting paid by @fit and stuck to his guns and told everyone that the Zone is a joke and that @fit nutrition in general was a a joke. Anyone who can get the leaders bunged up is ok with me.

[T200]

I gotta give some cred to Wolf. He was getting paid by @fit and stuck to his guns and told everyone that the Zone is a joke and that @fit nutrition in general was a a joke. Anyone who can get the leaders bunged up is ok with me.

Trolling Couch while reaping the monetary benefits that Couch provides does not make him less of a quack. It makes him an assfuck hypocrite who makes ridiculous nutritional statements regarding organic production methods and grain consumption that just aren't necessarily true. Very much a quack bubbling over with faggotry IMO.

[T200]

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53216

At 1st I thought the form nazis were being their usual overally critical douches, but I looked at some videos from this DiMeo clown....http://www.onetruemedia.com/otm_site/vi ... 9e6f002459

FUCKING AWESOME!

He removed the video already but Dimeo is always a clown.

He is always jumping on the latest thing and chucking it at random into a faggot ass circuit.

He is always pimping certs, and not just @Fit certs.

Here is his site: http://www.crossfitgulfcoast.com/index.html

He has like 5 blogs where the content is supposedly specialized for a group (LEO, MMA, etc) but it's all just stupid Battling Ropes shit mixed with this or that.

Has some video I just watched on one of 'em where he is trying to do pistols where he can only descend about half way down. I have no problem with an old dude like him only getting down that far but he adds a 40lb KB to the mix for some reason.

[TerryB]

http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53216

One thing is when you're not getting below parallel on your own squats or not getting high enough on a weighted pull-ups. Your fitness, your illusions.

But cheating others out of fitness by not showing/teaching the proper standards - that's criminal.

Ah ha aha ahahahahahahaha!

WAtch out Couch! There's a warrant out for your arrest for violating all reasonable and decent exercise standards!

I know the critiques are not any fun, and I'll remind any further commenter to please continue the constructive tone and not devolve to attacks or insults.

Damn, with these standards, Couch has to keep his mouth shut.

[KingSchmaltzBagelHour]

That Dimeo guy's got a link to "Promise Keepers" on his gay ass blog.
These are the lame fucks that drive around with the "I my wife" bumper stickers...hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Terds.

[steelydan]

He seems proud of his Level 1 Battling Ropes certification. I wonder what deep secrets of tossing a rope around you can pick up at the level 2 and 3 certs?

[T200]

He seems proud of his Level 1 Battling Ropes certification. I wonder what deep secrets of tossing a rope around you can pick up at the level 2 and 3 certs?

I spoke with Brookfield once and asked him about this. The level one is RKC levels of expensive and you learn how to flail ropes up, down and side to side...TO MASTER VELOCITY!!!

The advanced stuff includes the dreaded Pole System and presumably at some point leg work. I was told that the world is not ready for the leg work that the Battling Ropes can provide. It is too intense.

Brookfield is teh funny.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

http://robbwolf.com/?p=976

Robb's synopsis of the Black Box fiasco.

[T200]

C'mon Shafley, you know you should post that shit in case faggotry takes hold and it gets deleted:

The Black Box Summit Or How I Got Fired from the CrossFit Nutrition Certification
By Robb Wolf | November 24, 2009

Grab a snack and some espresso, this may take a while.

Black Box Summit

Several months ago I was contacted, along with Michael “Rutman” Rutherford, James “OPT” Ftizgerald and the non-pseudonym fitness luminaries, Nicki Violetti plus Greg and Aimee Everett (formerly Anaya) to participate in The Black Box Summit: For Affiliates By Affiliates. The purpose of this summit was to provide a forum for CrossFit affiliates and trainers to learn a variety of best practices in business, training and related topics, from the most respected and successful people in the CrossFit Community. The stratospheric growth of CrossFit has created equal parts challenge and opportunity. The Summit’s purpose was to begin a trend of professionalism and education that would, in theory, address the needs of the CrossFit community from every conceivable angle.

Quality Control & The brand of CrossFit

Jeremy Theil, CrossFit Games competitor and founder of the successful affiliate, CrossFit Central, opened the day and focused on the issues of quality control in CF and what role CrossFit HQ would play in this process. In short CF HQ will play “no” role in the quality control of affiliates. The most public explanation of this position is an open market “cream rises to the top” philosophy, however the legal/business anchor for this position is that any attempts on HQ’s part to police or institute best practices would put the organization into a franchise scenario. These are some interesting topics, which will need some exploration later, but this should suffice for now simply to paint a picture of the opening of the Summit. Jeremy concluded the opening session with a brief analysis of the controversial GreySkull blog post which created quite a stir several months ago. Jeremy made the point that if you love the community you would stay in and fight for it. A sentiment shared by many of the commentators to the Greyskull thread. This would however be prophetic for me, as my love for the community and desire to see it improve would lead to my sacking in a little over 48 hrs.

Better Business Practices

The first section of the business practices was fantastic. Attendees saw several different ways of structuring a business with the Examples coming from CrossFit Central, Optimum Performance Training (OPT) and NorCal Strength & Conditioning/CrossFit NorCal. Nicki spoke on several topics in this early session but one was on branding. She made the argument that one of the best ways to distinguish oneself as an affiliate was with a distinctive name + superior training, business systems and culture. The CrossFit community has seen monumental growth. In many cities there are 4-8 affiliates within literally eyesight of one another. Disparities in training, business systems and culture have raised significant anxieties for affiliate owners. What if all the prospective clients in an area are “turned off” to CrossFit by poor training or injury? What if something happened in a gym with a similar name and you are confused with that affiliate? CrossFit HQ’s stance on this topic has been an analogy of Starbuck’s and the fact there are “multiple Starbucks on some city corners”. Indeed there are, but this is a ridiculous comparison. Starbucks is a centrally owned business with solid, consistent business practices. CrossFit affiliates are unregulated and highly variable from location to location. Anxiety about the quality of a neighbor that essentially SHARES your name is valid on the part of the affiliate owner. The HQ position: “quality will win out” provides remarkably little solace for those affiliates who have neighbors who have driven down prices and possibly alienated clients with poor training. Perhaps someone should inform HQ that Starbucks has seen massive cutbacks? Would HQ be friendly to competitive strength & conditioning entities providing certifications? Whatever the case, Nicki couched all of this in terms that were positive and helpful: Pick a name that is unique. Distinguish yourself by quality actions such as training and business systems. This suggestion resonated with many of the attendees as evidenced by the questions Nicki received throughout the weekend. At least one attendee did not appreciate the suggestion, Director of Training, Dave Castro. I’d soon get an earful of what Dave thought about Nicki’s recommendation to co-brand oneself. Initially, I could not make sense of Dave’s animosity until I thought things through: If you have two names you not only distinguish yourself from your neighbors who may or may not have good business practices, you liberate yourself from the control of HQ. You have little recourse if you are dissatisfied with the parent organization when your only name is “CrossFit Anytown” and your only url is http://www.crossfitanytown.com.

Warming up…

Day 2 progressed with excellent content that appeared to both inspire and inform the audience. Mostly. In addition to Dave Castro, HQ sent Media Czar Tony Budding and Media Lackey, Russell Berger. Russell, you might recall penned the “balanced” review of the Gym Jones seminar. Greg Glassman claims Mark Twight stole his technology and has generally whined about this situation for years. My position has been and continues to be: If Twight stole from you, SUE HIM. It seems an airtight case, so why the lack of action? Anyway, Russell asked many questions throughout the weekend, always after either Tony (on day 1) or Dave (on days 2 & 3) leaned over and whispered in his ear. Russell, I believe DOES own an affiliate (experience neither Dave nor Tony have) but the emissaries from HQ are interesting:

* None have extensive training experience.
* None have ANY strength and conditioning education outside CrossFit and are largely incapable of articulating any of the nuanced methodology in strength and conditioning.
* None have a background in anatomy, physiology or exercise science. Greg Glassman never had a formal education in this material but has a formidable self taught knowledge. For the most part, the HQ staff does not reflect this knowledge base, and this in not only a “fitness” company but a “fitness juggernaut”.

I gave my talk on effective strategies for implementing nutrition in a gym. I detailed the systems such as integration with On Ramps and how to customize your approach for divergent populations such as fat loss vs. performance. My main focus for the talk was a food quality approach using “Paleo” concepts. I shared some case histories and then opened the floor for questions. Russell asked “when would I introduce the Zone in my practice?” and I said I tend not to. We have produced top tier athletes without the hassle of weighing and measuring. This did not satisfy him and he probed for how I would know what ratio athletes need for their best running and would it not be better to emulate a Zone approach. I gave him 2 concrete examples of top tier athletes who WERE eating the Zone, switched to un-weighed, unmeasured Paleo (a significant shift in food quality which decreases inflammation in many ways) who IMPROVED performance significantly by dropping the Zone. I said IF an athlete ceases to make progress I will weigh and measure food to see where to go next, but if a simple, intuitive approach is working, why mess with it? Russell and Dave are visibly agitated by this point. Russell was marshalling for another salvo when James Fitzgerald (the only other person in attendance besides myself who has logged thousands of hours working with people on their food) offered support for my position. Dutch Lowy (who was facilitating the questions) said we were out of time. Dave Castro stood up and loudly said: “That was Robb Wolf’s lecture on why the Zone Sucks”. Dave then walked outside and began texting on his phone.

After my talk at the Summit Dave Castro eventually grabbed me and said “You need to calm down on the Zone bashing”. I told him I was NOT bashing the Zone but you CANNOT weigh and measure shit food and get the same results.

Things Get Jerry Springer

After lunch, Greg Everett was up and he would tackle the topic of why the Olympic lifts are valuable for the CrossFit athlete. Greg’s presentation was fantastic. Clear, concise and it opened with an example of a top level CrossFitter improving her performance dramatically with just a few weeks of instruction in the O-lifts. Greg had numerous photos in his power point presentation, one was of Annie Sakamoto doing a barbell clean. This was a photo HQ had used on crossfit.com as an example of “good” form and Greg pointed out the shortcomings of the technique displayed in the photo. A bit later Greg showed a photo of Nicole Carroll doing a medball clean with a form error Greg would later explore in depth. When this photo came up, Greg said “I’m not going to get into this right now” Dave Castro yelled out “No, GET INTO IT!”

Greg thought this was Michael Rutherford and said “Not now sweetie”. Either way Dave thought he had been “Disrespected” and yelled out, in the middle of a lecture, attended by over 70 people from around the world, at an event that was NOT HQ sponsored or endorsed “FUCK YOU, YOU FAT FUCK!” This is all on film. If it sees the light of day you will be able to see the whole thing yourselves, and from two different camera angles.

Greg continues his lecture remarkably unfazed while Castro seethes and wiggles, texting on his phone. When Greg’s talk finishes Dave rushes forward and starts yelling at Greg. Dutch is trying to calm Dave down because Dave Castro, Director of Training for CrossFit HQ is yelling at one of the best and brightest coaches in the community because Greg said CrossFitters will benefit from technical proficiency in the O-lifts. Having a cooler head than Dave, and actually giving a shit about the attendees experience, Greg asks Dave to go outside so they can talk.

At this point I’m shocked but reticent to get much more involved. I did not want my presence to provoke matters further and frankly, I did not, in my wildest imaginings, think Dave Castro, Director of Training for CrossFit HQ, the fitness juggernaut built on Empiricism and facts and OPEN SOURCE CONCEPTS, would conduct himself as he was doing. I could see Dave yelling at Greg outside. Dutch Lowy and Michael Rutherford were trying to quiet things down. Mind you, this is in the middle of a SEMINAR with 70+ people in attendance. I could see Greg’s head getting redder and redder so I went outside and Dutch is pushing a motormouthed Castro away from Greg. Greg is repeating “ I have noting to say to you Dave” while Dave is obviously working to provoke Greg. Every time Michael Rutherford or Dutch would get between, Dave would push his way around, all the while yelling a stream of obscenities at Greg. Dave was saying things like “you just hate HQ, you are just waiting for this thing to fail so you can swoop in and benefit. You are a parasite on the community…you should de-affiliate, we should de-affiliate you!!” I get between Dave and Greg and said “HQ cannot hear an ounce of criticism, you are above reproach and it is ruining the organization.” He said I was no better than Greg.

I told him to take my high-paying nutrition gig and stick it up his ass.

At this Dave becomes dead quite and just looks back and forth at Greg and I. Then he starts repeating “you guys are done…you guys are done, you drew your line, you are done…” Imagine an all-powerful despotic leader of an authoritarian regime ranting over two subjects he is about to execute. That’s the flavor of this professional exchange.

Dutch Lowy finally tells Dave he needs to leave. That the cops would be called if need be. Jeremy is trying to keep things as mellow as possible but the whole of the 70 people are taking in the spectacle of the Director of Training trying to provoke a fight with Greg Everett over an OLYMPIC WEIGHTLIFTING LECTURE. I have received 2 emails from people who said they filmed parts of the outside yelling match. I’ll post that video when I get it.

As an aside, imagine a similar scenario playing out at a Level 1 CrossFit cert. What could so enrage an attendee that the individual would rush the stage and start spewing threats and obscenities like Dave did? Who knows, but the individual would obviously need to be very insecure with the material that was presented to react this way.

Day 3

Dave would not make eye contact with me all day on Sunday. The seminars were amazing, particularly some of OPT’s material. Inspiring and some very high order thinking. All of the presenters were brought up front for a Q&A. This went pretty well till Russell Berger asked “If the Main site WOD would optimally prepare an athlete for the Crossfit games. He gave some numbers which had the appearance of being vague, but it was pretty obvious he had a specific person and situation in mind. Of the panel, NOT ONE PERSON thought the crossfit.com WOD would get a person to optimal strength/conditioning levels the fastest. The weekend had been comprised of discussions of the Max Effort Black Box which was developed by Michael Rutherford. The reason he developed it was because crossfit.com was inadequate to the task of producing top tier strength. I’M SURE I will look like a huge A-hole when Russel’s CFJ piece is finished.

At about 8pm Sunday night I received a phone call from Eric Black, one of the understaffed members of CrossFit Legal. Black informed me that Greg Glassman decided I would no longer be doing the CF nutrition certs and that someone else would fill the coaching for the several sold out certs on the books. I asked Eric if HQ had an “official” position on the topic. He said he did not know anything else. I said “You do know I will make a public statement about this. I have hundreds of people signed up for and looking to sign up for a cert in which I am the instructor. I will post this publicly. Attendees need to know it will not be me instructing the course. Are you prepared for this and are you sure you want to go through with it?” To this black said he was not 100% sure the situation was final…that there might be some discussion, that I should consider if I had a message for Glassman. I said I was stunned they did not have a written, formal reason for dismissing me, that it was appallingly unprofessional that Glassman, whom I’ve known for nearly 10 years now, did not have the Stones to do this himself. And That I was DONE. I was not interested in a kiss-and make up session.

I shot an email to CrossFit Legal and the Glassman’s that I wanted a written explanation of why I was being replaced within 24 hrs.

Monday

John Welbourn called me and said Dave Castro wanted to know if John was going to leave. If he was going to continue programming CrossFit Football. John said he would, for he foreseeable future. John said to Dave: “I was not there but I hear you did some remarkably unprofessional things.” To this Dave Castro, Director of Training for CrossFit HQ said “ Greg Everett was running down CrossFit and he was running down Mark Rippetoe. I was not going to let Greg Destroy Rips legacy….”

A few things are funny about this, beyond the fact it’s a complete lie intended to manipulate Welbourn. The first is that Dave Castro HATES Mark Rippetoe. He sent an email to Rip one time that was, the most unprofessional thing I’ve seen…up to that date. THAT will make some interesting reading at some point. The other funny thing is that Greg said of the squat in his lecture “there is a high bar squat and a low bar squat. We just call it “The Squat”. Yes Dave, this is certainly grounds for your behavior.

Thoughts and What Next?

Generally, I’m just shocked the emissary from HQ conducted himself in this way. Dave acts with an impunity that is frightening in it’s severity.

In the phone call Eric Black said HQ had a replacement for my upcoming nutrition certs. I want attendees to know it will NOT be me there. I do not want people rolling into the cert expecting to see me.

As of this writing I have not received any communication from HQ other than a voicemail from Glassman saying “Robbie! I hear you started another fire..call me kid!” Classic lack of professionalism on HQ’s part and Glassman’s preferred method for dealing with unsavory situations: Make it look like it was not his decision.

I’m REALLY interested to see the HQ response to this if any. they NEVER take responsibility for actions. We will see some kind of 90* take on this. My guess is that I’m using this as a media stunt.

I’ll continue to serve the community I’ve been a part of for so long via my blog. I’m going to take this time and finish my book. On my writing breaks I will ponder the same thing on most CrossFitters minds: Where IS my RRG money?


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7 Comments

1.
Tony Budding
Posted November 24, 2009 at 7:28 am | Permalink

I’ll be surprised if Robb allows this post to stay, but I just want to say that Robb’s view of what happened is quite different from mine. I can assure you all that Robb’s being fired from representing CrossFit HQ has been a long time coming. What happened this weekend was simply the final straw. And, it has absolutely nothing to do holding and expressing “contrary” opinions.
2.
Sean R
Posted November 24, 2009 at 7:29 am | Permalink

Wow. Sorry to hear things went sour. Its not really all that surprising when you look at the responses to the Greyskull Barbell Club post, which wasn’t ever meant to be an argument to get people to leave in the first place…

Either way, your contributions are appreciated. Although, selfish as it may be, I’m glad that I was able to get to the Nutrition Cert while it was still yours.
3.
Robb Wolf
Posted November 24, 2009 at 7:36 am | Permalink

Free and open exchange Tony. That YOUR interpretation of the events differs from mine is not the least bit surprising, really it can be no other way. And Tony, if this has been a “long time coming” it is even more shocking you guys could not have something in writing and anything that indicates something like incompetence. No tony, this was 100% about a dissident voice speaking out.

Nice return on the serve BTW, the ball was barely over the net!

Oh yea-Great way to avoid Dave’s behavior. If my actions were sufficient to get me fired they must have been amazingly egregious considering what Dave did and the fact he most assuredly will NOT be fired. VERY professional.

Sorry Tony, thought of something else: Anything YOU post on here will both be approved and will remain. This is in stark contrast to the numerous posts of mine you have deleted from the CrossFit Journal site. Considering your background in education and your current penchant for censorship is an interesting thought exercise for me.
4.
Amy Kubal
Posted November 24, 2009 at 7:58 am | Permalink

Robb – This really SUCKS! I will definitely NOT be getting the cert if you aren’t doing it and I will make sure that no one else I know does either! I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened for sure – but I know one thing, you know your $h!t, and if the folks at HQ know what’s good for them you will be back on staff by the end of the day! I have bachelors and masters degrees in nutrition and am a registered dietitian, but I consider you the expert – your blogs and info have taught me more than six years of school did. I’m behind you 110%!
5.
Robb Wolf
Posted November 24, 2009 at 8:03 am | Permalink

Thanks Amy-
I had my window of opportunity to get back in but I absolutely CANNOT. Mat gave his resignation…anyone who believes in openness and free speech is not very happy with the organization right now. I will be back on the road after the book is finished. I really appreciate the help and friendship…all I want to do is help people. I do without the drama and the megalomania.
6.
JasonS
Posted November 24, 2009 at 8:08 am | Permalink

I’m sorry to hear that you have had to suffer through all this drama, Robb. Do you intend to continue doing seminars? I missed you l last time you were her in the Portland, Oregon area and I’d be interested in having you back up in the future.

I’m sure Robb Wolf, the brand, will prosper. I take nutrition quite a bit farther than most affiliates and I often hear your name outside the CrossFit community. I’d say, “good luck to you” but for me, you’re not going anywhere.
7.
Robb Wolf
Posted November 24, 2009 at 8:12 am | Permalink

Jason-
Really appreciate that. I will be back on the road once the book is done. I have been making some good headway on that and just want to wrap that thing up. This is actually all an amazing relief.

[Gary John]

Wish I had time to read that through. Crew waiting outside for work crap.

Let's help make this huge.

[TerryB]

WOW

=D> =D> =D>

On my writing breaks I will ponder the same thing on most CrossFitters minds: Where IS my RRG money?

[T200]

A @Fit thread on the Robb Wolf thing: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53258

Has Everett weighed in on it yet?

[Danny John]

Robb Wolf has been and will always be my friend. I have great respect for him.

When I give workshops, I always like it when I have someone like Gary around to go "old school" if something like this happened.

[WildGorillaMan]

A @Fit thread on the Robb Wolf thing: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53258

Has Everett weighed in on it yet?

The obliviousness of the sheeple in that thread is quite endearing.

[Freki]

Wow.

[Grandpa's Spells]

Things Get Jerry Springer

Fuckin' A. That is some seriously entertaining shit. And soon we'll see the emails and video. So awesome. If Greg has a brain in his head he'll send them all a big ass check in exchange for keeping their mouths shut and their video off teh Internets.

This went pretty well till Russell Berger asked “If the Main site WOD would optimally prepare an athlete for the Crossfit games. He gave some numbers which had the appearance of being vague, but it was pretty obvious he had a specific person and situation in mind.

I think it's amusing that Captain Empirical didn't simply look at the results of the previous games and see who prepared for it using the WAD and did well. Why would anybody have to ask a panel?

[rjudo]

The video should be quite entertaining, the beginning of the end. =D> =D>


Rick

[Sofa King]

This is the match that will start the firestorm.

Despite opinions to the contrary, Wolf is legit. I might have him do my seminar with Joey Chestnut.
Timed paleo eating; the new modal domain.

[T200]

Despite opinions to the contrary, Wolf is legit.

Assuming I am the contrary opinion: I am aware that he is a knowledgeable dude. My issue is with him stating that paleo is the be-all-end-all, organic agriculture is something great and that NO ONE should eat fucking wheat. If he didn't often speak in false absolutes it would be less problematic. He is very guru-tastic.

I would buy a book by him though because he throws out so much strange shit. He could have something good in there.

And he is still a hypocrite for goose-stepping in line for so long with Couch's bullshit (not that I care how he makes his money either but a fact is a fact).

[Danny John]

The crossfit discussion thread is closed. As usual, all the new people are "just hoping that HQ will do the right thing."

When the book, "The Couch Thread" comes out, I think a lot of things will be cleared up.

[Danny John]

Eric Lester




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Re: The Black Box Summit Or How I Got Fired from the CrossFit Nutrition Certification
"There is something about CrossFit; it just eliminates *ssholes." -Tony Budding at my first level 1.

I have found this to be true. I hope for their own sakes of knowing each other so long everything is resolved. But also for the community that this situation will be treated with a spirit of openness.




No idea who the guy is, but I hope Tony was referring to me, too.

[WildGorillaMan]

Eric Lester




Profile:
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Paducah KY
Posts: 692

Re: The Black Box Summit Or How I Got Fired from the CrossFit Nutrition Certification
"There is something about CrossFit; it just eliminates *ssholes." -Tony Budding at my first level 1.

I have found this to be true. I hope for their own sakes of knowing each other so long everything is resolved. But also for the community that this situation will be treated with a spirit of openness.




No idea who the guy is, but I hope Tony was referring to me, too.

A @Fit thread on the Robb Wolf thing: http://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=53258

Has Everett weighed in on it yet?

The obliviousness of the sheeple in that thread is quite endearing.

[Mountebank]

I think Bony meant to say:

"If you are a BIG ENOUGH asshole, and you push the kool-aid hard enough, you could make six figures working at @FHQ!"

Or maybe his definition of asshole is simply anyone who asks a question and wants a referenced or researched answer.

[Sofa King]

Despite opinions to the contrary, Wolf is legit.

Assuming I am the contrary opinion: I am aware that he is a knowledgeable dude. My issue is with him stating that paleo is the be-all-end-all, organic agriculture is something great and that NO ONE should eat fucking wheat. If he didn't often speak in false absolutes it would be less problematic. He is very guru-tastic.

I would buy a book by him though because he throws out so much strange shit. He could have something good in there.

And he is still a hypocrite for goose-stepping in line for so long with Couch's bullshit (not that I care how he makes his money either but a fact is a fact).

You're one, and entitled to it. I've known Robb a while and know that most of what he espouses is what has worked for him. I can see your point about the "guru" thang. It probably comes from taking too much @fit money and the adulation that comes with it.

I agree with your point about the "re-kool-ading," but shit, a man's gotta eat. . .even if it is paleo/celiac inspired.