The couch thread

[Sassenach]

How can you dis the knee sox? Best part of the whole thing, if you ask me.

I was down with it at first, but now the whole whore workout gear thing is starting to wear very very thin.

[WildGorillaMan]

How can you dis the knee sox? Best part of the whole thing, if you ask me.

I was down with it at first, but now the whole whore workout gear thing is starting to wear very very thin.

Thin. Sheer. I see the next logical step in workout apparel.

[syaigh]

You're missing the real market sure-thing: Custom knee socks http://www.kneehighsocks.org/products/C ... Socks.html

[WildGorillaMan]

You're missing the real market sure-thing: Custom knee socks http://www.kneehighsocks.org/products/C ... Socks.html

I know! This may be what I've been looking for!

[Hebrew Hammer]

So here's a funny thought. Large retail sellers generally probe the net endlessly to get feedback on what the chatter is about on their products. Then they have staff, consultants and lawyers who advise them on whether to respond and, if so, how and when. So someday a few weeks ago, some prober for Reebok came upon the Couch thread talking about Reebok. What do you think that guy thought? What do you think his report to his bosses said?

[dead man walking]

So here's a funny thought. Large retail sellers generally probe the net endlessly to get feedback on what the chatter is about on their products. Then they have staff, consultants and lawyers who advise them on whether to respond and, if so, how and when. So someday a few weeks ago, some prober for Reebok came upon the Couch thread talking about Reebok. What do you think that guy thought? What do you think his report to his bosses said?

according to a reebok insider, the consultant wrote:

That sayaigh chik needs to stfu with all the scientficals and post tits. Better still, she should wear our knee socks and post tits.

[TerryB]

So here's a funny thought. Large retail sellers generally probe the net endlessly to get feedback on what the chatter is about on their products. Then they have staff, consultants and lawyers who advise them on whether to respond and, if so, how and when. So someday a few weeks ago, some prober for Reebok came upon the Couch thread talking about Reebok. What do you think that guy thought? What do you think his report to his bosses said?

He probably said, "if we just stick to marketing the image and the "equipment," and avoid the organization, its founder, and all its 'exercise' principles and programs, we'll make millions and avoid any real legal problems."

[Spider Monkey]

The whole knee socks thing really ticks me off. I've been wearing knee socks since 1976. I never got into the ankle socks thing. For a few years it was really tough to find knee socks. Now all the cool kids are wearing them and I don't want to be a part of the cool crowd. What's a girl to do? For now I'm just wearing the knee socks and long pants so know one can tell I'm wearing the knee socks. Can someone please start an ankle socks fad again.

[dead man walking]

What's a girl to do?

no need to complicate things with your fashion history.

post tits. or your daughter's tits. we're easy.

[syaigh]

The whole knee socks thing really ticks me off. I've been wearing knee socks since 1976. I never got into the ankle socks thing. For a few years it was really tough to find knee socks. Now all the cool kids are wearing them and I don't want to be a part of the cool crowd. What's a girl to do? For now I'm just wearing the knee socks and long pants so know one can tell I'm wearing the knee socks. Can someone please start an ankle socks fad again.

I'm an ankle sock dork. I wear knee socks in the winter when its cold, under my pants. But usually just plain black ones. I would try to start a fad, but as I said, I'm a big dork and not really a trendsetter.

DMW, if you're going to try and sexually harass me vicariously, you can at least spell my handle right. Jeez.

Let's see your balls while we're at it.

[Spider Monkey]

post tits. or your daughter's tits. we're easy.

Hungry, there are plenty of tits over on the FSF. Most of them are way lovelier than mine.

[friedquads]

The IGx straight ladies are starting to get pretty damn good with the backhanded comments. I can only assume the IGx lesbians are teaching them a thing or two.

So here's a funny thought. Large retail sellers generally probe the net endlessly to get feedback on what the chatter is about on their products. Then they have staff, consultants and lawyers who advise them on whether to respond and, if so, how and when. So someday a few weeks ago, some prober for Reebok came upon the Couch thread talking about Reebok. What do you think that guy thought? What do you think his report to his bosses said?

If they're reading the Couch Thread, I think the report will say, "Forget CrossFit. We should get onto that new Team Gorilla thing!"

[dead man walking]

The IGx straight ladies are starting to get pretty damn good with the backhanded comments. I can only assume the IGx lesbians are teaching them a thing or two.

do not fucking encourage them.

[WildGorillaMan]

KaFuckingChing.

[Fat Cat]

HAIL SATAN

[Grandpa's Spells]

They installed stripper poles at CF?

[WildGorillaMan]

They installed stripper poles at CF?

I know there's been talk. The real top performers want to specialize before next year's Gorilla Games.

[Yes I Have Balls]

Teh Couch is back and better than ever. This time he's got science and "very sophisticated mathematics with him!"

http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/11/gla ... l#comments

While I can't see the video, the comments are good and promise some violent HQ push back.

[WildGorillaMan]

Never mind all the science, here's the real money shot:

One avenue for this data collection is the upcoming 2011 CrossFit Games. Glassman announces that the first phase of the 2011 Games will include an open registration where “anyone can play.” That registration will help collect data to support the analysis of fitness.

Put another way: Nobody wanted to pay to watch last year, so instead of limited the field to a few dozen competitors, lets' open the floodgates and charge an entry fee to a thousand or more competitors.

[tzg]

Teh Couch is back and better than ever. This time he's got science and "very sophisticated mathematics with him!"

http://journal.crossfit.com/2010/11/gla ... l#comments

While I can't see the video, the comments are good and promise some violent HQ push back.

I especially like this comment:

Eric Osborne wrote …
[please excuse the long tirade and the poor formatting]

I love Science as much as the next guy, maybe more. It's the greatest
thing man ever figured out. And I could be the next guy in the "Crossfit
changed my life" videos - I love this stuff, it's gotten me father than I
ever would have been otherwise. So I'm firmly not in the Hater camp.

But this video makes me a little nervous. As far as I can see, it's "we're
going to examine the percentage of the population that is willing to spend
the time and money to participate in the CF lifestyle and see what works
best for them". From my experience working out at a few different CF boxes
across the country, and from having watched all the CF videos I can find,
CF is largely Americans, mostly white, and people to whom fitness is
important enough that they're willing and able to shell out $100-$200/mo in
membership fees (so either rich enough that that's not a big expense, or
devoted enough to the lifestyle that they're willing to make tradeoffs in
their life to fund it).

Will the results be extrapolatable to the world at large? Will the study
claim that they are? As far as I can see, unless the study says "This is a
study of what works best for those who meet the Crossfit demographic" it'll
be overreaching.

And "This will dwarf anything ever conceived of in Framingham or Harvard
Nurses"? For those who haven't seen them, (Framingham) and (Harvard) [both WFS].

To claim that you'll dwarf either one of these multi-decade longitudinal
studies with a single study of a particular self-selected set of exercise
aficionados is to set a particularly high bar for yourself, to say the
least, no matter how much math you throw at it.

To those who are all up in arms about the earlier point about published in
a peer-reviewed journal...the point of peer review (by statisticians,
anthropologists, medical doctors, etc) is to make sure that the study
validates what it says it validates. Although every publishing milieu has
its pitfalls, if this study can't get some serious review by some very
clueful people who have no direct stake in its results, the study won't be
valid. Don't show me a bunch of crossfitters claiming the study is
awesome, show me people who've never heard of crossfit examining the
hypothesis, methodology, data and outcomes.

If this study can do that, it'll be groundbreaking. And I really would like to see that, I think it'd be incredibly important. But the video sets some serious expectations, and it needs to live up to them.

Pudding posted a reply to it. But I think an important confounding factor that this reply missed is that they're defining performance in the very narrow domain of "CrossFit performance", and they're begging the question when it comes to the alignment of performance, as they define it, and fitness or performance in real sports. I think, in the end, they will have large problems because of the great difficulty in defining the inputs adequately. The outputs, too, but "performance at Teh CrossFit Games" is a better output than some things people try to use.

[***]

Who is this douche?

[tzg]

Also, lolz about Pudding saying this:

In terms of Framingham, the study was highly flawed (see Ravnskov's explanation here http://www.ravnskov.nu/myth2.htm). But the key here is that we're not trying to convince anyone of anything.

1. The link looks like a conspiracy theorist. Any study of that sort has methodological things you can nitpick, and it's the height of arrogance to completely dismiss an influential one on that basis when you're running a study that will have a lot more that people can take issue with, methodologically.
2. They are trying to convince people of something: how awesome CrossFit is.

But, then, I'm not an epidemiologist or health statistician or whatever, I use my statistics skills more for risk management.

[WildGorillaMan]

Who is this douche?

You hit this one about 150 pages ago. He probably dropped out of Crossfit with a serious injury 75 pages ago. Get some new material.

[Yes I Have Balls]

Furthermore, these notions of peer review are hilarious. Peer review and/or consensus have nothing to do with science. Every major flawed study has been peer reviewed. Something is either right, wrong, valid or bunk no matter who agrees, disagrees, understands or doesn't. Science is outside the realm of opinion.

and then bam!

With all due respect, it was only BECAUSE of a peer review process that flaws are able to be spotted. Science is self correcting mechanism afterall.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Couch is looking exceptionally scientifical here: