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I did not know that about the Beatles. Very, very interesting.

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Mickey O'neil wrote:I did not know that about the Beatles. Very, very interesting.
It's but to anyone that plays an instrument the part about practice is obvious. Had the front men and song writers been Ringo and George we would have never heard of the Beatles. John and Paul had a natural talent for writing pop songs. No amount of practice can teach someone that. Sure they needed to practice their instruments and the numbers they put together but the ideas where largely God given gifts. You can waste a lot of energy torturing yourself because you “haven’t tried hard enough” when in reality you were just misapplying yourself.

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Yea, not to belittle the hard work thing cos it's the part needed to develop talent, but I know several musicians and groups that work tirelessly but they still suck like a Hoover.
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ab g-d wrote:Well, he's still pissed at me.

I guess I could get into a whole thing about how all the fine upstanding LEO guys, who I was told by Couch are so offended by this thread, who posted on CF the day the guy who got rhabdo sued and got made fun of, threatened and mocked on the official moderated CF site where everything that appears is carefully controlled by CF were all cuplable for all the evil shit that was said, but that would ignore the "it's only bad if it's against CF", otherwise its cool because we're right rule, so I won't.

The worst thing I said in the thread is that Couch is fat and out of shape and talks shit about things he doesn't know about. To the best of my knowledge that's not a crime.

Although I had absolutely no control over it, I directly apoligized to Couch for the stuff in the thread I thought was just not cool. The fact the site is unmoderated doesn't mean I personally think everything is OK. I was told that was "water under the bridge". Not so much.

It's not you it's him. Couch displays classic signs of alcoholic rage, egotism and resentment. The defining characteristics of the alcoholic are self pity and resentments. In treatment and through self help groups it is impressed upon the alcoholic that he must rid himself of resentments or they will surely lead him back to the bottle. Of course old couch here hasn’t come to grips with his powerlessness over the hooch. Until he does that he will remain a very bitter, contemptuous and lonely man. Even with a lucrative venture and minions willing to do his bidding he is riddled with self doubt and insecurity. How else can one explain online bickering with fat–skinny teenagers about the effectiveness of his program? This man has to be pulling in at least a quarter of a million a year peddling Javorek rips off to dolts. Deep down he knows he’s not good enough, that he doesn’t deserve it so he lashes out at others.


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stosh wrote:Yea, not to belittle the hard work thing cos it's the part needed to develop talent, but I know several musicians and groups that work tirelessly but they still suck like a Hoover.
I am part of that cohort.

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Rant wrote:It's not you it's him. Couch displays classic signs of alcoholic rage, egotism and resentment. The defining characteristics of the alcoholic are self pity and resentments. In treatment and through self help groups it is impressed upon the alcoholic that he must rid himself of resentments or they will surely lead him back to the bottle. Of course old couch here hasn’t come to grips with his powerlessness over the hooch. Until he does that he will remain a very bitter, contemptuous and lonely man. Even with a lucrative venture and minions willing to do his bidding he is riddled with self doubt and insecurity. How else can one explain online bickering with fat–skinny teenagers about the effectiveness of his program? This man has to be pulling in at least a quarter of a million a year peddling Javorek rips off to dolts. Deep down he knows he’s not good enough, that he doesn’t deserve it so he lashes out at others.
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Rant wrote: Couch displays classic signs of alcoholic rage, egotism and resentment. The defining characteristics of the alcoholic are self pity and resentments.
TIME WARP!!!

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powerlifter54 wrote:From TC's article today "Why You Suck"

"...All of the kids had started playing when they were 5 years old, but what divided them, aside from ability, was simply how many hours each had spent practicing. The really good ones had totaled 10,000 hours of practice, while the good ones had only managed to squeak away on the catgut for 8,000 hours or so.

The underachievers? Just 4,000 hours of practice.

The most surprising thing was that they really couldn't find any "naturals." Nor could they find any grinders, people who just worked harder than everybody else but just didn't have the talent to become elite.

The thing that distinguished one from another was simply hard work, nothing else.

But the weird thing is that 10,000 hours — roughly the amount of practice a truly committed devotee could accrue over 10 year — keeps popping up in different fields. Whether you're a writer, a concert pianist, a basketball player, computer programmer, or chess master, true greatness seems to pivot on that magic number.

Gladwell notes only one exception: Chess player Bobby Fisher, who took only nine years to achieve Chess Master status.

The Beatles are an old-fogey rock band anachronism to most modern music lovers, but few would probably deny their influence on the world's music. Interestingly, the Beatles were afforded certain circumstances that allowed them to become great.

Early in their career, before anybody had heard of them, they got the opportunity to fly from their England homes to Hamburg, Germany, where a strip club owner had gotten the idea to have bands play non-stop music while sexy Sadie did a little helter skelter on stage.

And play non-stop the Beatles did, for seven days a week, eight hours a night. They made five trips to Hamburg between 1960 and 1962. By the time they had their initial taste of success, they'd performed live approximately 1200 times, which is extraordinary in that most bands never play live 1200 times over their entire careers.

Writer Philip Norman, who wrote the Beatles' biography Shout, explained in this way:

"They learned not only stamina. They had to learn an enormous amount of numbers — cover versions of everything you can think of, not just rock and roll, a bit of jazz too. But when they came back, they sounded like no one else. It was the making of them."

There it was again, hours of practice accrued equates to success. Nothing magical. The more psychologists in Gladwell's book looked at the careers of the gifted, the smaller the role innate talent seems to play and the bigger the role preparation seems to play.

Those hockey, baseball, and soccer players who weren't good enough to make it? They might have been too young to compete with older, more physically mature players, so they weren't picked to all-star teams, didn't get the extra coaching, never got close to hitting 10,000 hours of practice by the time the professional teams came around looking for players."

Didn't exactly approach things this way but basically more than half way to 10 years with my son. Who BTW we didn't push into school a year early. He does no cultfit BTW.
That whole qoute was merely TC's pandering to his 16 year old audience that still thinks they'll weigh 300 lean lbs. and overtake Ronnie. The jscratch translation, "Have the anabolic power to defy all notions of reality: Surge!!"

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Norman U. Senchbau wrote:
Rant wrote:It's not you it's him. Couch displays classic signs of alcoholic rage, egotism and resentment. The defining characteristics of the alcoholic are self pity and resentments. In treatment and through self help groups it is impressed upon the alcoholic that he must rid himself of resentments or they will surely lead him back to the bottle. Of course old couch here hasn’t come to grips with his powerlessness over the hooch. Until he does that he will remain a very bitter, contemptuous and lonely man. Even with a lucrative venture and minions willing to do his bidding he is riddled with self doubt and insecurity. How else can one explain online bickering with fat–skinny teenagers about the effectiveness of his program? This man has to be pulling in at least a quarter of a million a year peddling Javorek rips off to dolts. Deep down he knows he’s not good enough, that he doesn’t deserve it so he lashes out at others.
How long have you been under the care of Dr. Bob?
18 plus years.

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T200 wrote:
Rant wrote: Couch displays classic signs of alcoholic rage, egotism and resentment. The defining characteristics of the alcoholic are self pity and resentments.
TIME WARP!!!

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=D> =D> =D> =D> :drinkers: Now Bukowski was a drunk's drunk. I wonder what his Fran time was?
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jscratch wrote: That whole qoute was merely TC's pandering to his 16 year old audience that still thinks they'll weigh 300 lean lbs. and overtake Ronnie. The jscratch translation, "Have the anabolic power to defy all notions of reality: Surge!!"
Exactly. Rexquando bullshit.

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Bukowski can Fran in 2:43. FACT.

Deadlift 671. Almost to the upper limit of athletic usefulness.
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T200 wrote:Bukowski can Fran in 2:43. FACT.

Deadlift 671. Almost to the upper limit of athletic usefulness.
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T200 wrote:Bukowski can Fran in 2:43. FACT.

Deadlift 671. Almost to the upper limit of athletic usefulness.
I heard from Ferlinghetti that was complete bullshit.
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T200 wrote:
Trebuchet wrote:
steelydan wrote: Performing a crazy back lift with one inch of motion and 6000 pounds .
Has this been documented ever?
If this is a serious question I was under the impression that Louis Cyr is the best backlifter ever with 4300lbs. Surely any such info could have been filtered through a carny PR release though.
I would be curious what kind of weight Justa puts up in this lift.
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ab g-d wrote:Bill 48/180

Fran
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21-15-9
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6:45
Nice work, ab f-x. Too bad no one knows who you are over there. . .well, except cooch, of korse.
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JamesonBushmill wrote:I would be curious what kind of weight Justa puts up in this lift.
I thought Justa said he did 4500# in RIS, IIRC.
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sub-2 min fran

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/Cros ... b2Fran.wmv

while reluctant to disparage a dead guy, can't help wondering if that swinging and head bobbing qualifies as doing pull-ups.
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LOL

I love it.

Couch is reading IronGarm.

What a fucking loser.
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Tom o'Bedlam wrote:sub-2 min fran

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/Cros ... b2Fran.wmv

while reluctant to disparage a dead guy, can't help wondering if that swinging and head bobbing qualifies as doing pull-ups.
Those ain't pullups. I don't know what they are but they sure ain't pull ups.

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Whatever they are, Jack could cut that fucker's time in half.
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Rant wrote:
Tom o'Bedlam wrote:sub-2 min fran

http://media.crossfit.com/cf-video/Cros ... b2Fran.wmv

while reluctant to disparage a dead guy, can't help wondering if that swinging and head bobbing qualifies as doing pull-ups.
Those ain't pullups. I don't know what they are but they sure ain't pull ups.
They call that the new butterfly kip. It was actually developed by a guy who had a bar that split in the middle so your head could go through. Basically if your chin goes above bar level, as opposed to actually over or anywhere near the actual bar, at some point during the swing, it's a pullup.

Look, it's a studly performance, he's doing a load of work in 2 minutes, and, as has been said many times CF makes you better at CF. It's always freaking sad when someone like that dies young. Within the rules of CF he's killing that WOD. If you're using Gym Jones rules, he did zero pullups, elbows have to cross the plane of the body. I think CF games rules require chest hits the bar, you need a more objective standard to compete head to head.

Fran is in fact an excellent test, IMO. Big basic lower body move with a push and a big basic pull. I hacked my way through this having not touched a barbell in many many months and not being able to really kip on my bar. I've got some training laid out going forward that will go nicely with Fran, so I'll retest in a month or so at CF Tribe and see if sub 6 is in the picture.
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How'd he die?
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Car wreck, apparently.

As others have pointed out, it's not a pull-up. A jerk is closer to a press than that is to a pull-up. Might as well call it a swing-up or kipover or something and not get made fun of.
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