Mickey O'neil wrote:Batboy2/75 wrote:Doughboy wrote:Oh no, you're obviously qualified to talk about these matters. Your description of the ideal warrior life is a bit gay, that's all.
There's nothing wrong with that, btw. I just found the part about holding the warrior's ethos sacredly amusing.
Carry on and whatnot.
Using the word ethos is the only way to describe it.
Ethos: the fundamental and distinctive character of a group, social context, or period of time, typically expressed in attitudes, habits, and beliefs
Basicly you want young, easily impressionable men, get rid of the weak, train them harder than anyone else, tell them they are the best and everyone else sucks donkey dick, make them live in an controlled environment where martial ability and strength are held up as the only desirable virtues, control their agreession until it's needed through training & contact/combat sports, & let them party hard for short controlled periods of time.
In general you brain wash and control a group of extremely fit and violent young men, ie you start a very dangerous cult.
As for the gay bit, I believe you're projecting.
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What happens to those guys when they get out of the service? What kind of life do they lead when they are brainwashed with this mentality? Serious question.
They grow up.
The whole premise depends on control and the fact that unmarried young men tend to be reckless with thier lives. With no attatchments (wives or children) they have that superman (I'm not going to die) complex all young men have. This all changes when these men develop families and or mature.
The one thing that I didn't mention in the case of American units is that American units have always been taught the concept of controlled violence. That there are basic rules of War or rules of engagement. Plus, the fact that all service men and women take an oath to defend the US Constitution. So in the US military's case they have put implace rules, oaths etc that make sure that things won't get out of hand.
Plus, all soldiers are a reflection of the population they come from. They bring with them a set of ethics.
What I described is the basic social premise behind all combat units. Much of it happens without much effort or any effort from the top brass. Young men will automaticly start to behave in the ways i desribed when living in a Military barracks situation.
Watch what happens when young men have no direction or mature adult male superivision. The male gang is created. Young men without the constraints of family or mature male examples become very aggressive and violent. The military does nothing more than harness this energy for the purposes of war.
I would even argue that the young men who under go this type of military lifestyle are less of danger to society than the men young men our society abandon on it's streets. The military gives them direction in how to control their potential violence. Plus, they are placed in a hierarchal environmant with plenty of mature male role models.
Read Black Hawk down, the Young Rangers in the book hold the Delta force opperators in awe. Most rangers are 18-25 years old and unmarried. Most Delta opperators are 26-40 years old and are married. When I was in The 2nd ranger BN all my buddies and me wanted to be Delta opperator or move onto an SF A team.
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