Why racism is contemptible

[seeahill]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

[Kazuya Mishima]

All of you who are criticizing Kaz-- but gave Garm and Andy a free pass-- are hypocrites of the highest order. Hebe, at least, can make the excuse that he wasn't around here then.

HAY TURD GARM GOT A PASS BECAUSE HE ONLY TALKED BAD ABOUT JIGABOOS IN LIMERICK FORM...HERE LET ME TRY.

THERE ONCE WUZ A NIGRA NAMED RUFUS
LIKE MOST OF HIS KIND HE WUZ A DOOFUS
HE STOLE AND HE STANK
AND HE LIKED PURPLE DRANK
BUT ONE DAY...HE UH...

GODDAMNIT I RAN OUT OF STUFF THAT RHYMES WITH RUFUS

NO WONDER THEY ALL HATE ME!!!!!!!!!!11111

[Kazuya Mishima]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

How does one feel animosity across the internet?

[Andy83]

Gorby. You is a goddam fool. I hate goddam fools.

[seeahill]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

How does one feel animosity across the internet?

Through the written word. Pretty obvious, really.

[buckethead]

Bucket,
I don't want to "run Kaz off" and I sure as hell never ever want this to be a moderated forum. Kaz is our hate speech prototype. Although I disagree with him vehemently, I give him points for being an articulate writer who is sometimes downright funny. If he was an illiterate goof-ball, his posts would have little effect. I have to give him credit.

As for the forum becoming a neo-nazi group, or a hate group: well, that's what I was worried about myself. And that is why I posted the poll. It seemed to me that Kaz would spew his (admittedly well written) racial bile and some here would respond with great approval. I wondered if I was alone in my visceral dislike of hate speech.

Turns out I am not. Of those who don't like it, some just ignore his posts. Some don't care to engage someone who is unpersuadable. Some just don't want to get into a pissing match with a skunk.

So, in praise of Kaz, he managed to get people to confront this issue. Always a good thing. Thanks, Kaz. Rage on.

This just sounds like you want to suck Kaz's dick while slapping him. Get some stones.

I know the difference between defending free speech and celebrating shit speech. Many others here seem to have the two conflated.

[Turdacious]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

So it's all about how you feel rather than the terms they use?

FWIW, I know the rules around here as well as you do. Andy does what he does, Garm does what he does, Kaz does what he does. It's IGx.

[seeahill]

Nah, Turd,
Words themselves don't bother me. It's the intent behind the words I'm talking about.

[Turdacious]

Nah, Turd,
Words themselves don't bother me. It's the intent behind the words I'm talking about.

You must be better than me then, I don't have the ability to intuit Kaz's or Garm's intent.

BTW, remember what people used to call Lich? I don't remember online drum circles about that.

[seeahill]

Bucket,
I don't want to "run Kaz off" and I sure as hell never ever want this to be a moderated forum. Kaz is our hate speech prototype. Although I disagree with him vehemently, I give him points for being an articulate writer who is sometimes downright funny. If he was an illiterate goof-ball, his posts would have little effect. I have to give him credit.

As for the forum becoming a neo-nazi group, or a hate group: well, that's what I was worried about myself. And that is why I posted the poll. It seemed to me that Kaz would spew his (admittedly well written) racial bile and some here would respond with great approval. I wondered if I was alone in my visceral dislike of hate speech.

Turns out I am not. Of those who don't like it, some just ignore his posts. Some don't care to engage someone who is unpersuadable. Some just don't want to get into a pissing match with a skunk.

So, in praise of Kaz, he managed to get people to confront this issue. Always a good thing. Thanks, Kaz. Rage on.

This just sounds like you want to suck Kaz's dick while slapping him. Get some stones.

I know the difference between defending free speech and celebrating shit speech. Many others here seem to have the two conflated.

Agree completely and entirely with your last point.

As for your first, well, I was trying for balance. Was there anything good at all that I could say about Kaz? That's what I came up with.

[seeahill]

Nah, Turd,
Words themselves don't bother me. It's the intent behind the words I'm talking about.

You must be better than me then, I don't have the ability to intuit Kaz's or Garm's intent.

BTW, remember what people used to call Lich? I don't remember online drum circles about that.

I wouldn't say I'm better than you, but I will remind that I've been a professional editor for 35 years. Figuring intent behind the words is part of the job.

[buckethead]

I know the rules around here as well as you do. Andy does what he does, Garm does what he does, Kaz does what he does. It's IGx.

This is crap. In 9 years, we've run off dozens if not a hundred people. Ido Portal for being a narcissist. Sonnon for the same. Others for spamming us with their goods or services. Fattie tried vehemently to get rid of Hebe for being a zionist. Hell, we even ran Garm off once his fraud was publicly exposed. But good old-fashioned racism - cool, let's give him his own thread!

[Andy83]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

You're wrong about me. I only hate goddamn fools. With your high and mighty self appointed king of proper English and last word judgments of all peoples makes you a goddamn fool.

[seeahill]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

You're wrong about me. I only hate goddamn fools. With your high and mighty self appointed king of proper English and last word judgments of all peoples makes you a goddamn fool.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

[buckethead]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

You're wrong about me. I only hate goddamn fools. With your high and mighty self appointed king of proper English and last word judgments of all peoples makes you a goddamn fool.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

[Turdacious]

Nah, Turd,
Words themselves don't bother me. It's the intent behind the words I'm talking about.

You must be better than me then, I don't have the ability to intuit Kaz's or Garm's intent.

BTW, remember what people used to call Lich? I don't remember online drum circles about that.

I wouldn't say I'm better than you, but I will remind that I've been a professional editor for 35 years. Figuring intent behind the words is part of the job.

So Garm gets a free pass for the asswhore shit, the Force Recon shit, and the racially based shit-- but Kaz is a racistnogoodmuthafucker?

Give me a break.

[Turdacious]

I know the rules around here as well as you do. Andy does what he does, Garm does what he does, Kaz does what he does. It's IGx.

This is crap. In 9 years, we've run off dozens if not a hundred people. Ido Portal for being a narcissist. Sonnon for the same. Others for spamming us with their goods or services. Fattie tried vehemently to get rid of Hebe for being a zionist. Hell, we even ran Garm off once his fraud was publicly exposed. But good old-fashioned racism - cool, let's give him his own thread!

If I recall, Garm ran himself off when someone crossed the VL/RL line in a way that threatened his professional life (which Garm may or may not have invited).

And if you'll recall, the Best of Kaz thread-- http://www.irongarmx.net/phpBB2/viewtop ... 95&start=0 -- is filled with other stuff.

Now explain why what Kaz is doing is worse than the racially based stuff Garm posted.

[Andy83]

I don't recall Jack ever denigrating any particular race.

I never felt any real animosity out of Garm. He just liked to stir shit.

Andy is Andy. He hates everyone. And no one takes him quite seriously.

You're wrong about me. I only hate goddamn fools. With your high and mighty self appointed king of proper English and last word judgments of all peoples makes you a goddamn fool.

Thank you for illustrating my point.

You even think you know more than me about how spheres can fly. Like I say, you are a goddamn ignorant fool.

[Turdacious]

Timmah knows this, and quite a few others do too-- but if you really want to see toxic racially based shit, go to the third world.

[seeahill]

Your point is we should become a Third World type racially toxic forum?

[Turdacious]

Your point is we should become a Third World type racially toxic forum?

No, that you need thick skin around here, and that really fucked shit happens elsewhere.

[nafod]

Your point is we should become a Third World type racially toxic forum?

I think he was arguing MarcoFP for moderator

[Grandpa's Spells]

Your point is we should become a Third World type racially toxic forum?

"My racism is OK because liberals, blacks, Southeast Asia are the real racists."

[seeahill]

Your point is we should become a Third World type racially toxic forum?

"My racism is OK because liberals, blacks, Southeast Asia are the real racists."

Don't forget the fucking Finns.

[Batboy2/75]

My point? Don't be passive aggressive A-hole. Don't vaguely refer to hate speech or "people". Point out exactly who and what is offensive. If Kaz is a racist with a bunch of nut swinging groupies; have at them. Call them out, name names, quote their screeds, & mock them.

The best anti-septic against crazy shit is the light of day and pushing back hard.