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Alistair Overeem passed both of his tests taken the week of the fight with Brock Lesnar. He did the rest when he arrived, and a test the day of the show. He still has to pass two more random tests over the next six months. Every fighter on the 12/30 show in Las Vegas was tested for steroids and other drugs the day of the fight except Jon Fitch. There were no positives.
ESPN’s “Outside the Lines” will be doing a piece on 1/15 (Sunday) at 10 a.m. Eastern on ESPN 2 on the pay scale of UFC fighters. Reporter John Barr asked Lorenzo Fertitta if UFC pays fighters 50% of total revenues, similar to what athletes in the four major sports get, and not the 10% numerous sources told Outside the Lines that the athletes get. “In that neighborhood, yeah, in that neighborhood.” The problem is, because of bonuses that we don’t know, when it comes to PPVs, it’s impossible to even make an estimate. But the estimates people make of 10% using base pay are ridiculous, because the headliners make so much more than base pay that it isn’t funny, and with very few exceptions, every fighter appearing on a PPV card gets bonused something, even if it’s $5,000. In addition, when it comes to a TV shoot, some of those shows are loss leaders. I don’t know what UFC’s deal with Showtime is, but Strikeforce was getting around $750,000 (more would be kicked in if someone like Fedor was involved, but on Fedor vs. Henderson, UFC lost significant money because of both men’s huge salaries), and the payroll was $566,000. Now there is also a gate, not yet released, but tickets weren’t moving much in Las Vegas. Not sure what the casino may have paid for the show, but the point is, this was not a $5.6 million show in revenue and the pay was a lot more than 10%. For the 12/30 show, if we go with the idea of 800,000 buys, then Zuffa took in about $18 million from its share of PPV and $3.1 million in gate, or in the range of $21 million. Of that, we know the undercard fighters took in $851,000, and we can very conservatively figure another $150,000 in undisclosed bonuses, so that’s $1 million. We also know from the lawsuit that with that level of a buy rate, that Overeem got about $2.27 million and let’s be conservative and say Lesnar got $2.5 million, so it’s $5.8 million out of $21 million, or 28%. That’s double the 15% that WWE pays talent, also way above the 10% that so many write and claim UFC pays by disingenuously acting as if the money in the original base purses is all that is paid. But it is likely far less than 50%. Ken Shamrock is also on the piece saying, “The UFC has gone out and strategically bought out every company, or they cut the knees our from underneath them when they tried to get started... There’s nothing wrong with that kind of business, but when you get in that kind of position, they don’t use that position to hold the fighters hostage.”
It was announced that Miesha Tate will defend her Strikeforce women’s bantamweight title against Ronda Rousey on 3/3 in Columbus, OH. The original main event was the Daniel Cormier vs. Josh Barnett heavyweight tournament final, but Cormier’s right hand still hasn’t fully recovered so things are up in the air. The impression from watching the weekend show is that they would do Cormier vs. Barnett on the Showtime show that follows that one. Scott Coker after the show said that Tate vs. Rousey is not necessarily the main event and that announcements of more matches are to come. In the past, Strikeforce has been very reluctant to allow women’s matches be billed as the main event. Some are saying this is the biggest women’s fight since Gina Carano vs. Cris Cyborg, but the reality is Rousey is someone with the potential to be a star, but she’s still not known past the very limited Internet audience. There is kind of a star power formula rating that you can garner, and while it is not necessarily a correlation to drawing power, it is pretty much a correlation to interest and TV ratings drawing power. Rousey right now is a 16 which is slightly below a Frankie Edgar, but she’s growing as a star as in October she was a 0. Tate is right now a 2. I’ll bet next week there will be this big story saying on a scale of one-to-ten I said Tate a two and how I must be blind. Carano even now is a 74, which is major star level. Above 20-25 is a star, above 50 is a pretty significant star who is a draw in MMA. Cris Cyborg before her fall from grace was a 7 and Sarah Kaufman was a 0. It’s interesting because Rousey has looked flawless thus far with all her one minute armbar wins, but we don’t know what she brings to the table if someone can stay out of her armbars and force her to fight standing for a while. The winner would likely defend against the winner of Sarah Kaufman vs. Alexis Davis, which is also on the 3/3 show. I think Kaufman would make for a tougher opponent stylistically for Rousey, because she’s a much better stand-up fighter with takedown defense. Tate is more a grappler so if Rousey runs through her on the ground she’s a threat to anyone, and if not, we’ll see where Rousey would stand against top level competition. As expected, Kaufman wasn’t happy about this, but it’s only fair that she should get the winner. Kaufman noted that Rousey hasn’t even fought once at 135 pounds and they don’t know how she’ll do at that weight. She was also mad because she perceives that Rousey has told people that because she’s attractive and marketable she should get a title fight. That isn’t exactly what she said. She said it was a professional sport and if more people were interested in seeing her get a title shot that’s probably how it would turn out.
B.J. Penn is not retiring after all, which is kind of what most figured. Apparently he’s really fired up about his last few matches. He tweeted a photo of he and Nick Diaz from after their fight, where you could see the major size difference between the two, and then wrote, “Look how much bigger you are in this pic..I thought you were gonna scrap from the beginning homie? What was that coward fence holding strategy to tire out the smaller man? Street fighter my ass! I made you fight like glass jaw @jonfitchdotnet poser! I’ll be ready for that weak bs next time we fight.” When that came out, at first people concluded somebody hacked his twitter. However, those close to him confirmed it was real, even though Penn did end up taking it down. He then wrote, “My recent comments have nothing to do with my loss. I know I lost. This has everything to do with the huge amount of disrespect he had shown pre-fight, during the fight and post-fight. Not only disrespecting me, but the sport as well. To me, flipping people off and consistently cussing post-fight is disgraceful. It’s strange how some actually honor him for that kind of behavior. But oh well. Maybe I’m just old fashioned like that.” Cussing? Look there are a lot of problems with MMA, but cussing in interviews is very low on the list, and I don’t even think it’s a problem.
After his latest round of post-fight stupidity, telling decidedly unfunny jokes about Barack Obama, Jacob Volkmann, who coaches high school wrestling at White Bear Lake High in Minnesota (and yes, that is where Jim Brunzell went to school), was put on administrative leave. What makes it stupid is that Volkmann did the same thing but worse on a UFC interview some time back talking about Obama, was visited that time by the secret service, and was put on administrative leave then as well. Some people just can’t learn . . . Jared Papazian, the King of the Cage bantamweight champion, was signed. He debuts as the replacement for Ken Stone on the 1/20 show in Nashville, and will face Mike Easton. Added to that show in the opener will be two debuting fighters, with Daniel Pineda, the King of the Cage featherweight champion (15-7) facing Pat Schilling (5-0), out of Minnesota, who was won all five of his fights in the first round. Schilling also is 6-0 as an amateur, all via stoppage, but he was knocked out in a non-sanctioned match last year in 21 seconds.
Ben Askren will be inducted into the University of Missouri Intercollegiate Athletics Hall of Fame on 2/10. In his induction bio, he was called “possibly the most dominant MU athlete in any sport ever.” Askren was the second best college wrestler (behind clear No. 1 Cael Sanderson), compiling a 153-8 record which included 2nd place finishes in the 2004 and 2005 NCAA tournament, and going 87-0 with two firsts and two Danny Hodge Awards in 2006 and 2007. In scoring 91 pins in his 153 wins, he nearly doubled the old school record of 47.
Hermes Franca, 37, who fought in UFC from 2003 to 2009 and once challenged for the lightweight title against Sean Sherk in 2007, was sentenced to 42 months in prison for sexual abuse against an underage female student of his martial arts school in Clackamas, OR that is alleged to have taken place in December 2010. Franca pleaded guilty on 1/4 to one count of unlawful penetration and one count of first degree sexual abuse. He had been charged with seven counts and plea bargained down to two. He was also sentenced for 54 months of probation once he gets out of prison, and will then have to register as a sex offender. Needless to say, with that many years in prison at his age, it’s a good shot his career is over.
The latest Japanese freak show fight is on the woman’s side with the announcement of a woman’s fight on the 2/18 Deep show at the Tokyo Dome Hotel between Amanda Lucas (3-1), the 31-year-old adopted daughter of George Lucas, and 45-year old Yumiko Hotta, a hard kicking tough girl superstar of the glory days of All Japan women’s wrestling in the late 80s through the 90s, who is still active on the indie scene today. Hotta, currently the managing director of the Reina promotion in Japan, went 5-3 in shoot matches between 1995 and 2000 as a pro wrestler when they put pro wrestlers in tournaments with other foreign fighters in the early days of women’s shoot fighting in Japan. The match has gotten some publicity as, given the age difference, it appears to be a way to give Lucas, who gets a lot of publicity in Japan, a high profile win. Hotta said that after seeing Lucas, after their fight, she wants to recruit her into pro wrestling saying she’s got a pro wrestler body (Hotta saying that means something very different physically from say, John Laurinaitis saying that).
Shaquille O’Neal is said to be either very close or a done deal for Mania. Creative has been told to come up with ideas for him. As far as Brock Lesnar goes, creative has not been told anything about him other than one person asked Vince McMahon that if Lesnar was coming, would Paul Heyman be part of the package? Vince was he wouldn’t. The feeling is any talks being done, if there are any, would be kept quiet and creative won’t be in the loop until or unless a deal is done.
Roddy Piper and Honky Tonk Man are the first people confirmed for the Legends House reality show on the WWE Network. As noted, they want it to be wacky, but don’t want anyone on who would come across as sad or pathetic. I would figure they’d want guys like Brian Knobs, but I wonder if the Hogan connection will stall that one.
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Thanks for posting these...always interesting.


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Dramatic Win for Clay Wrestlers over Fleming Island.



With two matches left Fleming Island led 28-24. The Eagles had just got a pin from their most accomplished wrestler, Dorian Darnes and their crowd of a 200 green clad home fans roared in celebration.



But their cheers were quickly matched and surpassed by the 200 strong in Blue Devil Royal when Justin Fountain scored a pin at Heavyweight to make the score 30-28, for the good guys.



There was one match left at 106lbs. A win in wrestling is worth 3 team pts, therefore the winner of the final match-the smallest weight class by tonight’s draw would take all and win the meet.



Everyone was on their feet for the entire six minutes but the score was tied 0-0 with 20 seconds left when Clay’s Dylan Martin ran his opponent over to score back points to earn himself and his team the win.



The Blue Devil Faithful went crazy. It was a lot of fun. Both teams won 7 matches. It went back and forth all night.



The boys did the school and the community proud. Last year’s team had 8 seniors in the 14 weight classes and FIHS had anointed themselves the new elite in Clay County and North Florida Wrestling.



The Coronation got canceled.
The best part is the FI coach is a disgruntled ex-mentoree of the Clay Coach, and had run his mouth loud and long.
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1-23-12 issue
It was a crazy few days where almost every single major UFC problem hit at once.

There was the problem of too many shows with not enough stars. The performance enhancing drug issue. The weight cutting issue. Inconsistent officiating. About the only thing missing was a bad judges decision.

The first major casualty of the new schedule came when it was announced on 1/17 that UFC 145, scheduled for 3/24 in Montreal, has been postponed. UFC is still planning on running a show in Montreal over the next few months, and is working on arranging a date, but there were no dates available in April or May due to the Bell Centre not releasing any Saturday night dates because of the possibility of needing them for Stanley Cup playoff games.

It was the first time Zuffa has ever canceled an announced PPV date. Dana White had always spoken about the difference between boxing and UFC is that when a main event falls out, UFC still always runs a show.

The culprit seems to be the inability to get anything close to a viable main event for the show. The only matches scheduled for the show when it was canceled were Che Mills vs. Rory MacDonald, Ben Rothwell vs. Brendan Schaub, Mark Bocek vs. Matt Wiman, Mark Hominick vs. Eddie Yagin, Mac Danzig vs. Efrain Escudero, Chad Griggs vs. Travis Browne and Chris Clements vs. Keith Wisniewski. The future of these matches was not determined at press time, whether they would be added to different shows or saved until the company got a date in May.

There had been talk in recent weeks of headlining Montreal with a Jon Jones vs. Dan Henderson light heavyweight title match. White had said this past week that he didn’t want to announce a match for Jones until after the 1/28 FOX show in Chicago and the Rashad Evans vs. Phil Davis fight.

“We made the decision earlier this week that we’re going to postpone our Montreal event,” noted Tom Wright, Director of Operations for UFC Canada. “I don’t have to tell you how important Montreal is as a market for us (three of UFC’s four biggest crowds thus far in its history were at the Bell Centre). The Bell Centre is one of the most best venues for your shows. We just decided that we would reschedule the event. It doesn’t mean we’re not coming back to Montreal. We are. We’re expecting to be back in 2012. It was a scheduling issue. That is what is boils down to. Fundamentally, Montreal is a championship city and we want a championship caliber card.

With the cancellation of the date, UFC won’t have a PPV show between the 2/25 date from Saitama, Japan, and the 4/21 date in Atlanta, an eternity by modern UFC standards. The plan is to still do 14 PPV events, including three from Canada, during 2012. But now the three, the Montreal show, a planned show later in the year in Toronto, and a third show (which we were told would likely be August in Calgary at one point but Wright said that the third city is not confirmed) will all take place closer together.

An interesting beneficiary of this is WWE, as noted to us by someone in the company. As noted in our past studies, while a UFC PPV the night before a WWE PPV usually does significant damage to the WWE number, there is also a noticeable but lesser effect when the WWE show is eight days later. WrestleMania is eight days after this Montreal show. If anything, WrestleMania, one of the company’s few mainstream shows, would get hurt the worst (2010) coming a day after UFC with the idea that a lot of groups of people who no longer watch wrestling will watch WrestleMania with friends once a year. But a lot of those groups still get together now to watch UFC, and getting groups together two straight days, or even two straight weekends, is often overkill. The same goes for places like bars and restaurants ordering the shows. UFC will almost always take precedence with the idea the shows are more popular and draw a higher spending clientele. But if there is no UFC show for two months, it is more likely such establishments will order WrestleMania. In addition, even when Vince McMahon denies the crossover, he does admit to doing worse numbers when shows are in close proximity, stating it’s because the cable channels will give UFC commercial time for shows that otherwise would be earmarked for WWE shows, thus the WWE gets less local cable promotion. Now, during the period from, say 3/10 to 3/24, when ads for UFC 145 will have proliferated, with no other major PPV event (the first big boxing event this year isn’t until May), it is likely the vast majority of those UFC ads will become WrestleMania ads, giving them an unexpected boost in promotion.

In addition, White announced that due to an injury to Mark Munoz, the semifinal on that show would now be Sonnen vs. Michael Bisping, with the winner being the next opponent for middleweight champion Anderson Silva.

Demian Maia, who was to face Bisping, will now face undefeated wrestler Chris Weidman in the third televised match on FOX. Maia, a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu world champion and Abu Dhabi world submission champion, will face a Matt Serra protege who was a two-time All-American at Hofstra, who once beat Davis in college wrestling, and who placed third in the nation in 2007 in the NCAA tournament at 197 pounds, and has cut to 185 in UFC.

In this case, it’s a fight that has far more appeal then the original. In fact, when the Bisping vs. Maia match was announced, many, including us, questioned why they didn’t do Bisping vs. Sonnen because it’s a far more marketable television fight, and because Bisping and Sonnen are both opponents who will draw far more interest against Silva than Munoz would. And it wasn’t as if Munoz had broken down the doors where he had clearly earned a title opportunity more than Bisping. But now they only have a little more than a week to promote it.

“He’s been kicked out of politics, he has been kicked out of the real estate business and I am going to kick him out of the middleweight division,” said Bisping. “However it’s not all bad news for him, because with his gift of the gab, Chael has got a bright future as a used car salesman or daytime TV quiz show host.”

“This isn’t the new co-main event because I sold all the tickets,” said Sonnen. “This is the new main event. I am going to knock the teeth out of this snot-nosed Brit who calls himself royalty, who calls himself a Count. I am MMA royalty and America will tune into the Chael Sonnen show next Saturday on FOX. I will personally welcome Bisping to the year two-thousand-and-Chael.

Hours earlier, the company announced it was going to do in-house steroid testing of competitors, and that it actually had started as of the first of the year testing all fighters for performance enhancing drugs before signing them to contracts. Details of the testing were not announced.

“The health and safety of our athletes is our top priority,” said Dana White in the release announcing the policy. “We’ve seen the issues performance-enhancing drugs have caused in other sports and we’re going to do everything we can to keep them out of UFC and Strikeforce. Our athletes are already held to the highest testing standards in all sports by athletic commissions. Our new testing policy for performance-enhancing drugs only further shows how important it is to us to have our athletes competing on a level playing field.”

As noted many times, the nature of the performance enhancing drug issue in sports is that even with the best testing they are impossible to eradicate. But anything short of unannounced random testing of fighters year-round, where all fighters, and not just the ones in California or Nevada high-profile main events are tested with no notice, is going to leave major gaping holes in the program. Ultimately, UFC itself is the only one that can implement this plan. This is a good sign if this is a step toward that direction, the beginning of a company testing that will grow more extensive over time. It’s not nearly so good if it’s just a step the company is taking to make it appear to the public that they are responding to the issue. In a recent Observer web site poll, the drug testing issue, in particular inadequate drug testing, was listed as the leading problem facing UFC today.

While the announcement came almost immediately after news broke of Mohammed “King Mo” Lawal, 31, testing positive for steroids, the decision was made in late December to implement this program according to sources within the company. The positive test result for Cris Cyborg actually came back on 12/23, although it wasn’t made public until two weeks later. The indication we were given is the program may have been a response to all the controversy in December stemming from the Alistair Overeem situation. The program actually went into effect on 1/1, with testing of all the new fighters that have been signed in recent weeks.

The announcement came right after the Nevada State Athletic Commission released that Lawal, 31 had tested positive for the steroid Drostanolone in his “A” sample, also known as Masteron, in testing taken after his 1/7 win in Las Vegas over Lorenz Larkin on the Strikeforce show. A “B” sample has yet to be tested.

Lawal, a former Strikeforce light heavyweight champion who came within an overtime criteria loss of representing the U.S. in freestyle wrestling in the 2008 Olympics, was expected to face Gegard Mousasi for the vacant title in his next fight. The fight was likely to take place on the show after the 3/3 show. While nothing was announced as far as a fine or suspension at press time, it was expected to be a suspension of between nine months and one year, and a significant fine, in the neighborhood of 30% to 50% of Lawal’s $95,000 earnings for the fight. In addition, Lawal’s win over Larkin would almost assuredly be overturned and ruled a no contest.

Masteron, a drug clinically used to treat women with breast cancer, is an anabolic steroid that used to be popular with bodybuilders just before competition because it didn’t add weight, but maintained muscle mass while in a severe dieting phase. The drug is expensive and can be difficult to obtain and is believed to be low on the scale of negative side effects, although fatigue, the last thing a fighter would want, has been linked as a side effect. Generally speaking, the belief is that in most cases it clears your system when it comes to drug testing in ten days, but it’s recommended to discontinue use at least three weeks before a test to be on the safe side in some literature but others have been told to cease two months ahead.

Bill Mahood, a former UFC fighter, who tested positive for it after a loss to Bobby Southworth in a 2007 Strikeforce show in Beverly Hills, CA, said that he had discontinued use about five weeks prior to the fight and tested positive for very low amounts. Two other fighters were caught that year for Masteron by California State Athletic Commission testing. Hermes Franca, who admitted he was having trouble getting down to weight in 2007 for a UFC lightweight title fight with Sean Sherk, tested positive and admitted to use. Current UFC fighter Dennis Hallman tested positive for both Drostanolone and Nandrolone (Decadurabolin) in 2007 on a Strikeforce show in San Jose. Josh Barnett also tested positive for the drug in 2009 as he was attempting to get licensed for his Affliction fight with Fedor Emelianenko that never happened.

“I’m in shock,” said Lawal, who had yet to fully respond to the test result, but did claim when the result came out that he had never used the drug.

Lawal’s manager, HDNet television announcer Mike Kogan said to USA Today that nether he nor Lawal had even head of Drostanolone. He said Lawal doesn’t even use supplements with the exception of iron, but did say he received a non-anabolic steroid shot a few weeks before the fight when he had fluid drained from his knee.

Weight-cutting became a major topic this past week, with a series of circumstances that led to Anthony Johnson, a middleweight who fought Vitor Belfort on the 1/14 show in Rio de Janeiro, missing weight by 12 pounds. Johnson gassed out quickly in a fight that saw him choked out late in the first round. Those close to him said he should have never gone through with it in the first place after his body cramped up from dehydration the day before, although he hardly looked dehydrated, or even bothered, a few hours later when weighing in. Johnson was then being fired after the show.

It was the third time in ten UFC fights that Johnson, who had fought up to that point as a welterweight, had missed weight, all by a significant margin.

Johnson is in an interesting spot. Most likely, if he wins a few fights, and makes weight for those fights, UFC has so many injuries and need for late replacements that at some point, he’d probably have a chance to come back because he is talented. But if he doesn’t stay within shooting distance of his weight class, if he’s called on a week or two notice, he may not be able to make weight then either. If he goes to Bellator, he’d probably be the favorite if he would agree to enter one of their tournaments. But if he signs with Bellator, it’ll be a several year deal and that will lock him out of a UFC return.

Johnson is one of the most exaggerated of weight-cutters in the sport,. While fighting as a 170-pounder, Johnson often weighed as much as 220 pounds when he entered camp, although he was not in top shape at that weight. But he would be 208 pounds in shape. After cutting and rehydrating, he would go into the cage at more than 200 pounds. There are the obvious benefits of being substantially larger. But the huge weight cutting and rehydrating cycle has been questioned. A lot of the fighters cutting to that degree have not performed well in their fights, likely due to the toll that takes on their system.

At the American Kickboxing Academy camp in San Jose, trial-and-error has led to a goal of fighters going into the cage at their training weight, and staying within 15 or so pounds of their weight class. Even then weight cutting isn’t fun, but situations where fighters do drastic cuts and struggle in the fight, having major stamina issues, like Jake Shields against Martin Kampmann, Dan Henderson against Shields, Thiago Alves with Jon Fitch, or Jose Aldo Jr. with Martin Kampmann, are avoided.

But it can also lead to a size advantage over an opponent and that can be a huge benefit both physically and psychologically.

But not only are there issues of performance, but of overall health. In 1997, three college wrestlers died as a result of weight cutting, leading that sport to immediately implement standards and use hydration testing when it came to weight cutting. These have existed since then at many levels and locales in U.S. wrestling. The safeguards wrestling put in are not there in MMA, where there is no regulation of cutting at UFC shows in recent years with the exception of one commission a few years ago that was insistent on it and didn’t allow fighters to go into the cage past a certain weight above what they weighed in at. Other athletic commissions have attempted to put rules in. Ohio has rules in place, but because UFC is the 800-pound gorilla, they do not have to adhere to them because of all the revenue the shows bring in. Massachusetts was looking at putting regulations regarding limitations to how much weight a fighter could put back on from his day-before weigh-in, but were pressured to remove them from the rules.

In recent months, there have been several issues on Zuffa events. T.J. Cook, a Strikeforce fighter, suffered kidney failure after his 7/22 win over Lionel Lanham in Las Vegas. Cook said that as soon as his fight was over, his body started shutting down. “Then, I blacked out. I couldn’t breathe. I couldn’t see.”

Cook was actually carried to the cage to get his hand raised, rushed to the back, where doctors determined he needed to be rushed to the hospital. When he got there, the doctors determined he was suffering from kidney failure.

“They told me if I hadn’t been brought in, I probably would have died,” said Cook in an interview after recovering.

Cook did recover and still fights. On 12/30, Matt Riddle was pulled from the UFC show at the last minute, with reports his illness that didn’t allow him to fight was due to repercussions of weight cutting.

Johnson started cutting from more than 215 pounds to make 185, his new weight class. After his misses at 170 he decided, or perhaps was told, that he needed to move up. But instead of staying the same size, where he’d still be a big middleweight, he gained even more weight, trying to add more size, resulting in his cutting close to the same similar amount as when he was a welterweight.

There are a number of contradictory reports about what happened. But those associated with him were all insistent that he was well on his way to making weight. He either got to 191.5 pounds or 188 pounds, depending on which version is more accurate. At that point, he collapsed, and the doctors that examined him insisted that he get liquids in his system. Those close to him told us that he probably just should have canceled the fight. With the added liquids, by the time weigh-ins came, he weighed in at 197. Dana White went on television furious, saying it was unprofessional. He was excoriated not just for missing weight, but missing by 12 pounds, but that figure was misleading in the sense had his body not shut down, he possibly would have made it, but certainly wouldn’t have missed by much. His version is that he was just happy he was alive, and even responded on twitter to people harassing him and calling him unprofessional.

His camp made a deal with Belfort, where he would give Belfort 20% of his purse for missing weight, but Belfort also insisted that the day of the fight, he weigh-in at less than 205 pounds. Johnson was 204.2 pounds during a weigh-in during the afternoon, before the fight, which went into the cage past 1:30 a.m. in Rio. UFC has a policy of never announcing the actual weights of fighters at fight time, something that HBO does on boxing telecasts. But White told the announcers to release that Johnson was weighed shortly before fight time at 211 pounds, while Belfort, who made weight the day before, was now 206. Perhaps he did so because Johnson is something of a genetic freak, because he has a small waist for someone who is that size, so at 211, he has the upper body of someone closer to 230, so the weight difference of the two visually looked great, when it really wasn’t as bad as it looked.

It was reminiscent of Daniel Cormier in the Olympics. Cormier, a current Strikeforce star, was the captain of the U.S. Olympic wrestling team in 2008. He wrestled at 211 pounds, and was considered a strong medal threat. Like with UFC, Olympic wrestling has weigh-ins the day before. Cormier was coming down from 238, and on his way down, his body shut down. His kidneys failed and he was rushed to the hospital. Instead of finishing his career with an Olympic medal, his wrestling career ended fighting for life. The incident scared him to the point that he has not listened to the advice of many in the sport who feel that he is too short and has too small of a frame to be a heavyweight, and that he should fight at 205.

Cormier doesn’t dismiss that, but noted that if he does make the decision to drop, which would likely be only if Cain Velasquez is world champion again because while he didn’t discount fighting him, he didn’t relish the idea of facing his friend and training partner. But Cormier, who is not svelte like most fighters, said he would do is sensibly, dropping his late night eating and watching his diet for a long period of time to get his natural weight down to where the cut wouldn’t be so taxing.

But here is the issue. Belfort and Johnson, and the vast majority of fighters, physically torture themselves two nights before and the morning and afternoon before their fights to make weight. It’s really all part of the game. It makes people grouchy. Some call it the worst part of things, but nobody has any answers. The fact Belfort was 206 and Johnson was 211 tells you that had both just fought at 205, both men would be happier, healthier and have a lot more stamina and provide for a better fight with two men far closer to their peak condition. It would be the same for the vast majority of fighters. But the fear of fighting someone naturally 15-25 pounds bigger than you when fight time comes has turned this sport, and several others, into a nuclear arms race of weight cutters. And the reality is, you can cut some water weight, within reason, with minor annoyance, rehydrate and generally not risk health that much. If everyone, say at 185-195, cut to 185, that’s one thing. But people who are 195 generally fight at 170, so if you don’t want to give up size, if you’re 195, you are simply too small to be a middleweight. The best welterweight weight may be 185-188, but some people are just natural 195ers and then what do you do?

The answers aren’t simple because everyone is so indoctrinated to how it’s done. Same day weigh-ins and fighting in your real weight class on paper sounds like the obvious answer. But some people would still cut excessively, and the last thing you want in a striking sport is someone going into a fight with their brains not properly hydrated.

Dr. Johnny Benjamin, who writes for MMAjunkie.com, wrote after the Johnson incident, “Despite what the masses have witnessed (missing weight and poor performances) and what health professionals have experienced regarding profound sports-related weight-cutting, a persistent attitude remains: rapid, profound weight-cutting is not dangerous because the athlete’s have been doing it for years and are good at it. Unfortunately, this is faulty logic. Just because many fighters from a wrestling background have been cutting weight for years doesn’t make the practice safe. It merely makes them lucky.

His suggestion is that fighters should not weigh-in at less than 90% of their normal body weight. He suggested also doing weigh-ins ten days before the fight and whatever the weight was, the fighter couldn’t get more than 5% from that figure. If you’re 200 pounds ten days out, you can’t fight at middleweight, for example. But then you’d just be like a wrestler who cuts every week during the season, and do two cuts. But there are standards where bodyfat and hydration levels are checked that are in place for amateur wrestling, giving a number for the lowest possible safe weight class you are allowed to cut to.

When it comes to this issue, there have been no truly dire consequences in UFC history, but there have been close calls. It’s more an issue and a problem. A potential tragedy maybe not waiting to happen, but with plenty of scares in recent months, something that could happen. For that reason, I just hope it’s addressed one year too early instead of one year too late.

And finally, at UFC Brazil on 1/14, we had the problem of referee inconsistency for the second straight week. This week didn’t involve finishes, but involved a Dusty finish in one match, and stand-ups in another.

Erick Silva came out and destroyed Carlo Prater in :29. After Silva knocked Prater down with a knee to the body, he landed 12 punches on the ground, most to the side of the head, and one to the back of the head, before the match was called by referee Mario Yamasaki. However, with everyone expecting that Silva had won, Yamasaki, in the role of Stanley Blackburn or Tommy Young doing a version of the Dusty finish, told ring announcer Bruce Buffer that Silva didn’t win, but was instead disqualified for punches to the back of the head.

Joe Rogan, in the ring, called over Yamasaki and they watched the replay. The replay showed one inadvertent punch to the back of the head in the flurry. Something like that is commonplace in finishes, because heads move when punches are thrown and in flurries at the finish these things happen. The general rule is that if an illegal blow, such as a punch behind the head or a head-butt or an accidental illegal knee ends a fight, but is not intentional, it would be ruled a no contest. It also could go to the cards if the bout has gone past a certain point, but that wouldn’t be applicable here. But a DQ call would be for an intentional blow, which even if you are going to call the foul, which is virtually never called in this situation, it shouldn’t have been a DQ.

Dana White texted “horrible” to us right after the finish, and went on twitter and at the press conference, while pointing out Yamasaki is a good referee, that he made a bad call. He also paid Silva his win bonus and, like when Jon Jones was disqualified against Matt Hamill, UFC is going to treat it when it comes to booking direction that Silva is coming off a win and on a streak of sub-one-minute wins. He also encouraged Silva to protest the decision.

But since the show was in Brazil, with no athletic commission, that means it falls to the hands of Marc Ratner, the Vice President of Regulatory Affairs for UFC. Ratner acts as the presiding commissioner in places like Brazil and Europe. Ratner was going to review the tape on 1/17. The issue is, I don’t know that they can give Silva the win as most would want because Yamasaki said that he did warn Silva, and the punch to the back of the head came after the warning, and even though Prater was done and even had injured his shoulder, Yamasaki’s stoppage was in his mind calling a DQ, not a stoppage because Prater was unable to defend himself, even though he was not defending himself. So at best it would be ruled a no contest on the intent issue.

Nevada has a provision where, if there is a judgment call regarding an illegal move or something related to the actual finish of the fight, the referee can watch a replay and change his mind. Yamasaki didn’t change his call or appear to want to when Rogan showed him the tape, and UFC itself doesn’t have that rule in place. Although this might lead to such a thing being changed when UFC regulates its own shows.

Later, in the Belfort vs. Johnson fight, ref Dan Miragliotta ordered two stand-ups after very short periods after Johnson had taken Belfort down. He also ordered a break almost immediately when the two were in a clinch. While I don’t buy this for a second, as a fan not knowing anything, it would have appeared that Miragliotta was doing everything he could to facilitate Belfort winning. And given the controversy regarding Johnson, who was expected to be fired over not making weight, and that this was a UFC regulated show, you can see where people would have suspicion. The Rio de Janeiro crowd was quick to boo any type of slowdown in the action, particularly when the Brazilian hero was on his back against an American and little was happening.
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The subject of the pay of UFC fighters, which gets heavily debated every week or two on Internet message boards when certain athletic commissions release the pay information at shows, was the subject of an ESPN feature and web site article over the past few days, as well as a Yahoo article.

The investigative series “Outside the Lines” looked at fighter pay on a show that included an interview with Zuffa CEO Lorenzo Fertitta, that aired on 1/15 on ESPN 2. Even before the piece aired, UFC President Dana White started bad-mouthing it on his twitter, but more claiming UFC is chomping at the bit to discredit it.

“I’m excited to smash and discredit ESPN and the piece they did!! So pumped,” was one of numerous tweets sent out by White while he was in Rio de Janeiro promoting UFC 142.

“We wanted to look at what the pay scale is presently, it was not our intent to do the story on how UFC has grown exponentially,” noted John Barr, the ESPN reporter who put together the piece. “We feel that piece has been done. We paid some lip service to that. The main goal is what these guys are making at a time when the company has its first significant deal with a broadcast network and pay-per-view shows are as profitable as ever, what is the reality of fighters pay, not the top 5-10% of the fighters, but fighters across the board.”

The actual piece was about six or seven minutes long, followed by a panel discussion of the topic with Robert Maysey, a lawyer who follows the sport and has attempted to get fighters to work together to garner merchandising deals and perhaps unionizing, former heavyweight champion Ricco Rodriguez, who praised Fertitta but claimed he was blackballed out of UFC by White, and Josh Gross, a reporter for ESPN’s web site, who White has probably been more critical of than any reporter with the possible exception of Loretta Hunt.

But there is an inherent problem in the story that Barr readily admits. When covering a major sport, what the athletes earn is a matter of public record due to collective bargaining agreements. Trying to figure out what fighters make, and what UFC makes, is more difficult. UFC is a private company, and while they do release live gate information after most of their shows, that is the extent of financial information the company releases. The big revenue streams, whether it be pay-per-view revenue, television rights fees both foreign and domestic, any merchandising revenue, sponsorship income are all kept private.

And when it comes to fighters salaries, while some athletic commissions do release the base pay numbers, particularly Nevada, which is the company’s home base and where they run the most often, many do not.

Plus, most importantly, the vast majority of the money UFC pays fighters is not released. You don’t have to look any farther than Alistair Overeem, who defeated Brock Lesnar in the main event of UFC’s last show in Las Vegas.

Overeem’s publicly listed pay for the show was $264,285.71 as base pay, plus he received $121,428.57 as his winning bonus. However, a lawsuit filed against Overeem by Knock Out Investments, the parent company of Golden Glory, Overeem’s former management, revealed what the Nevada pay sheets don’t say and what most are in the dark about.

Overeem received a $1 million signing bonus upon inking his UFC contact, with the money spread over his first three fights, meaning he received another $333,333.33 guaranteed for the Lesnar fight. But for Overeem, and virtually every UFC main event fighter on pay-per-view, the number publicly talked about and the real number aren’t even close, due to pay-per-view percentages, which vary based on the fighter.

In the interview, Fertitta noted that 29 UFC fighters have such deals where they get a percentage of pay-per-view revenue. In the case of Overeem, he was to receive $2 per buy after Zuffa company pay-per-view revenue for the show topped $500,000, which would be roughly the first 23,000 buys. If the pay-per-view did 800,000 buys, that would be an additional $1,554,000, putting his total pay in excess of $2.2 million.

The problem is that without the lawsuit, people would be thinking Overeem earned $385,714.28 for headlining a major show. His opponent, Lesnar, was listed as earning $400,000 for the show, but the reality is he also had a pay-per-view bonus locked in, and since he was the more established draw, his bonus percentage would likely be significantly higher.

Within the MMA industry, those complaining about fighter pay continually throw out numbers, usually claiming that only 10% of revenue that UFC brings in trickles its way down to the fighters. But that figure is ridiculous. But what the real figure is for the most part is unknown, because virtually every revenue stream, as well as the actual pay most fighters receive, is also unknown.

“What we did is reach out to fighters, managers, some folks who have worked for Zuffa, and use that 2010 Standard & Poor’s report that 75% of revenue comes from pay-per-view and live events, said Barr. We tried to understand all the revenue streams, pay-per-view itself, costs of production, marketing, all of that stuff. That’s one piece of it. Then, what the guys get paid. We know what’s reported, but we know about all that off the books money, so you have to piece together many parts.

“So you wound up with ranges. Most people come up with a number that’s 10%, some say 6-7%, some high-teens. Lorenzo is on the record saying that’s ridiculous, and is closer toward what the established leagues pay. I didn’t press him on that, but did ask if they’re paying close to 50% and he said, `Yes.’”

Monte Cox, an agent who has 70 fighters under contract, 16 of who are under contract to Zuffa, said how except for the fighters at the top, the rest are struggling and that you don’t negotiate deals with UFC, you take what they offer.

The FTC does have some type of investigation going into Zuffa. The piece said it was an investigation of whether purchasing Strikeforce for $34 million (a dollar figure that Fertitta said on camera for the first time) has led to UFC becoming a monopoly.

Obviously, UFC is not a monopoly, as shown by the different promotions on HDNet, as well as Bellator having television deals. But they control almost every marketable fighter on the North American scene with the exception of a few. It is difficult for a fighter to make a good living outside UFC, although there are exceptions, like Eddie Alvarez, who earns well into the six figures per fight in Bellator. But for those fighters, it’s impossible for them to be considered the best, no matter how many fights they win. And it’s difficult for them to even be considered in the rankings, because to be ranked highly you have to beat guys ranked highly as a general rule, almost all of which are under contract to Zuffa.

Fertitta said UFC has paid out about a quarter-billion in fighter salaries since 2005. But that number would not be anywhere close to 50% of revenues. Fertitta said in a Sports Business Journal article a few months back that the company grosses $400 million per year. Standard & Poor’s has access to their financial information because UFC works on the money of outside bondholders, but only a limited amount gets published. But UFC has been highly profitable from 2006 to the present, with estimates of $76 million in 2006 and a significantly higher profit number in 2010. With PPV falling, the 2011 numbers are likely significantly lower since PPV is the main revenue stream. But those criticizing the numbers have pointed out that $250 million doesn’t appear to add to anywhere near 50% of total company revenue over the past six or seven years for a company that probably hit close to or surpassed the $200 million in revenue range by 2006 and has grown significantly almost every year since then. With PPV bonuses being built into more contracts, Fertitta said that pay to fighters has grown at double the rate of the increase in revenue, which means that whatever the percentage was a few years ago, it would be significantly higher now.

The difference between claims UFC pays 8% and 50% is quite the range and the difference between what could be considered gross underpayment and what would be considered fair payment at least based on the standards of major sports. There is no way the number is anywhere close to 8% as noted in our previous attempts at estimates.

In an attempt to use figures based on Zuffa’s percentage of an 800,000 buy show, which is at best an estimate of how the show did, the $3.1 million live gate, using listed fighter pay, announced bonuses, estimates of unannounced bonuses (admittedly extremely tricky), and percentages of pay–per-view revenue built into the main eventers’ contracts, and you get a very rough figure of 28% of revenue off that event going to talent, and given the bonus structure, that estimate is more likely a little low than a little high. However, for the 1/7 Strikeforce show in Las Vegas, that figure could easily have been greater than 50%.

“In an attempt by (ESPN reporter Josh) Gross and ESPN to do a hack job on us, we were ready this time!,” White posted. “We are gonna blast these hacks!”

He also wrote, “Trust me, I have been part of ESPN hack jobs, that’s why I don’t do those BS shows and why we filmed it.”

“ESPN doesn’t care about this sport, ESPN hates this sport, they hate this sport, they won’t even cover it, they don’t tell the great stories about this sport, they don’t tell stories about the fighters, do you ever see an in-depth story about great fighters, hell no you don’t,” said White in a video UFC produced as a counter argument. “You see this garbage Outside the Lines.”

“They’re dirty. They lie, and they never really give you really all the facts. You can’t even watch stuff like this on TV. From now on, that’s why I didn’t participate in the interview, I refused to participate in the interview, I will never participate in anymore interviews like that, and if I do, I will only do that if we film them filming us.”

It’s a difficult task to know what is and isn’t fair. For one, UFC, as a business, is structured completely differently than the big four team sports, which pay closer to half of total revenue to the athletes. It’s structured differently than boxing, where the major names fighters earn significantly more than UFC’s biggest draws. Georges St. Pierre recently said that he earns $4 million to $5 million per fight, but that figure likely includes sponsorship revenue. UFC has costs associated with producing and marketing shows, and front office expenses, and international expansion costs that a boxing organization doesn’t have.

Plus, the draw in UFC is different than boxing. In boxing, most pay-per-view shows do less than 50,000 buys, but big draws like Manny Pacquiao can do significantly more than 1 million buys, and at a higher price point than a UFC show. Floyd Mayweather vs. Victor Ortiz, for example, grossed $78 million just on pay-per-view revenue, while if UFC 141 was Zuffa’s biggest show of the year and did 800,000 buys, that would be a gross of closer to $36 million, and Zuffa only gets a percentage in the range of half of that. Between live gate and estimated revenue the fight generates originally to the promoters, Mayweather vs. Ortiz would be $48 million and UFC 141 would be around $21 million. Ortiz received a $2 million guarantee and we don’t know what, if any, percentage he may or may not have received. Mayweather received a $25 million guarantee, plus a percentage of all revenue, and is believed to have taken in somewhere near $40 million. Three other fighters on the show earned six figures, most notably Erik Morales at $350,000. But four received less than $10,000 including two prelim fighters who each received $1,500. There are also site fees, HBO replay revenues, and tons of other revenues involved. The general rule for a big boxing event is 70% goes to the fighters, and in this case, it may have been more. But both sports are structured differently.

For the 11/12 Pacquiao vs. Marquez fight in Las Vegas, not including PPV cuts (the show did 1.41 million PPV buys, the largest number for any U.S. PPV event since UFC 100), Marquez received $5 million and Pacquiao received $6 million, while Tim Bradley received $1,025,000 and Joel Casamayor received $100,000. Of the 16 fighters on the show, six were paid less than $10,000 with a low of $1,200.

Virtually every UFC show will do at least 200,000 buys, but the top ceiling for the biggest events isn’t as high, because UFC big events still don’t get nearly the level of mainstream media coverage of a Pacquiao fight. While the main event most often is the key, the main eventers don’t draw as much additional revenue as the two big boxing stars who make tens of millions. Plus, as a general rule, UFC pays undercard fighters better, and markets the shows around the top several matches on a card as opposed to just one match.

The closest business model to UFC is that of World Wrestling Entertainment, which is believed to pay in the range of 13-15% of its total revenue to its performers. And that’s not perfect either because while pro wrestling historically has been about main event wrestlers drawing money, it is no more of a touring brand. Big matches and main event names do make a difference to ratings, PPV and to a small degree, house shows, but not nearly at the level main event UFC fighters do. While some will argue WWE is performance art and not a real athletic competition and thus the performers don’t deserve as much, the dollars WWE derives from its performers is every bit as green as those which UFC derives.

Like UFC, but unlike major sports franchises, both WWE and UFC employ hundreds of full-time front office workers, so comparing the percentage they pay to, say, an NFL team, with far less employees, isn’t necessarily a fair comparison. But on the other hand, like UFC, WWE has been a very profitable business built off the bodies of its performers, for the past several years.

From 2001 to 2004, UFC lost tens of millions of dollars. Fertitta talked of losing $10-12 million in the first year and a similar amount in successive years until getting the television deal. If you are talking about what the fighters were earning then, which is a lot less than now, it was significantly more than the company could afford and remain in business for the long-term. UFC pays more than other organizations, but almost every major MMA company existing collapsed due to financial issues, often paying fighters more than the companies derived in revenue.

In fact, UFC itself before 2005 nearly collapsed under the weight of the debt. But in 2005, the company turned the corner, thanks to a television deal with Spike, and has been running with significantly high EBITDA based on regular Standard & Poor’s Credit reports since that time. But there are untold costs, including those of international expansion, and the cost of getting legalized nationwide and internationally that no other professional sport has had to deal with.

Still, anyone who has been around fighting at any level knows the stories of the fighters who aren’t big stars, in UFC, or other organizations, who struggle by for little money, sleep on friends couches and even go into debt trying to pursue a fighting career.

“The reality is that nobody wanted to talk for attribution,” said Barr. “We talked to everyone. We talked to guys who made millions of dollars, guys in between, and guys at the bottom end of the pay scale.”

It was notable ESPN said they couldn’t get any current fighters to speak on camera. White claimed that Matt Serra had told him they came to interview him, didn’t like what he was saying, and shut down the interview. Barr said that one fighter in the company told him in specific that if he was to participate in this piece, his UFC career would be over.

UFC’s return piece interviewed Chuck Liddell, who noted being bonused above his PPV percentage at times, Forrest Griffin, who noted that he went from making $30,000 per year as a police officer to making millions, and Serra noted how the UFC exposure allowed him to build his local businesses which include two 10,000-square foot gyms on Long Island.

Barr noted that no UFC fighters would talk on the record, but several were willing to talk. It’s become accepted when you talk to fighters these days, that unlike athletes in other sports, what they get paid, at least for attribution, is not something many are going to say much about. UFC is not a monopoly, as there are untold number of smaller promotions around the country. One competitor, Bellator, owned by media giant Viacom, that will have a very significant television deal with Spike starting in 2013. But they are the controlling major league and with Zuffa’s purchase of Strikeforce in March, leverage that at least some fighters have had at playing two competitors against each other (which resulted in very good contracts for people like Dan Henderson, Gilbert Melendez and Robbie Lawler among others) for top fighters was gone.

“We fleshed out stories on guys on the low end, who make six and six, ($6,000 guaranteed and a $6,000 winning bonus), eight and eight or ten and ten, the scale for incoming fighters,” said Barr. “Even though they wouldn’t attach their names to it, we heard from enough of them. It’s tough for the guys on the lower end. For journeyman fighters, they have to pay for their own training expenses, all the additional expenses that come with being a fighter full-time. It’s a real struggle. Not only are these guys tough as hell, but they really make some serious sacrifices in pursuit of the sport they love, and that becomes evident.”

“By the time you pay your trainer, one experienced fighter told me a training camp costs him close to 10 grand, some 7-10 grand, and he might fight three times a year, so, low end, that’s $21,000, and that’s before he’s paid his management company,” said Barr.

A couple of UFC fighters claimed in an MMAjunkie.com article that while their base listed pay isn’t necessarily high, that’s not the complete story. George Roop said that in his first fight of 2011, a knockout loss to Mark Hominick on a Spike fight, he was listed as making $6,000. He noted that he also got a $6,000 bonus and cleared $20,000 from sponsors (he would have earned $23,000 in sponsors but $3,000 went to his manager). In his second fight, a win over Josh Grispi, also a television fight, he was listed at making $12,000, and said he got another bonus of either $6,000 or $8,000 and made just under $20,000 from sponsors. In his third fight, with Hatsu Hioki in a prelim fight on PPV, he got $8,000, got paid either $5,000 or $6,000 as a bonus and made $19,000 from sponsors, so he cleared $100,000 for the year before management and costs of training. He also noted he was able to get paid for a few appearances as a celebrity and that due to his UFC exposure he was able to get $70 per hour teaching private lessons.

Jacob Volkmann, who won three fights during the year, earned $84,000 in listed purses, $10,000 in unannounced bonuses and $4,700 from sponsors. Of that $98,700, he said 20% went to his management and he paid $1,000 during the year in gym and training fees, but also noted spending $250 per week in gas to and from training.

On 12/30, the three lowest paid fighters were listed at earning $8,000, although virtually every fighter on a UFC pay-per-view show gets a bonus of some sorts, usually a minimum of $5,000, sometimes considerably more, that the public doesn’t hear about. Of the 22 fighters on the show, at least 14 earned in excess of $25,000.

UFC released the unedited interview between Barr and Fertitta that they filmed themselves, the key point being where Fertitta noted that ESPN made $2.8 billion in EBITDA last year, umpteen times more than Zuffa did, and that there was a boxer on ESPN 2's Friday Night Fights show that earned only $275 (this was not for a fight that aired on television, although UFC pays significantly more for dark matches underneath on Spike televised cards that are unlikely to air on television), far less than Zuffa’s minimum, which the piece stated was $6,000 to show and a $6,000 win bonus. In actuality, the Strikeforce show on 1/7 had four fighters on a $4,000/$4,000 purse, and there have been at least two fighters on PPV’s in recent months getting those same $4,000/$4,000 figures. However, in the piece, narrated by Bob Ley, a clip was shown of an ESPN 2 boxing match and it noted that some boxers only make a few hundred dollars for a fight. It’s not exactly the same thing, given ESPN 2 did not promote the fight and pay the talent and these were far lower on the totem poll shows generating far less income than a UFC event. The promoters rely on very small gates and a comparatively minuscule licensing fee ESPN 2 pays and nobody spoke of the percentage of revenue such a show paid the fighters. But, veterans of the boxing business who are aware of how UFC pays and treats fighters overall concurred they take care of its prelim fighters better than any organization around, and perhaps in history.

White blasted ESPN 2 for not paying more of a licensing fee to boxing so the fighters could earn more than a few hundred, and that they should have investigated themselves to complain about how little undercard fighters earn.

This led to an exchange between White and Dan Rafael, ESPN’s lead boxing writer on twitter.

Rafael wrote to White that ESPN does not pay the fighters, the promoters do, and ESPN pays the promoters a licensing fee. White said that when ESPN is raking in the highest carriage rates of any television station and $2.8 billion a year (an estimate of ESPN’s profits before taxes this year) then they should pay more. Rafael then said his point was that Fertitta was mixing apples and oranges. White then said, “No he isn’t. These guys on ESPN want to say we don’t pay fair and boxing pays more? Who has more money than ESPN? We pay more.”

In reality, UFC does pay more for lower card fighters, as a general rule, but in terms of total pay, Pacquiao and Mayweather by themselves may earn nearly as much as the entire UFC roster combined. Although that also could be wrong given there are no figures released to back that up and exactly what was the total number UFC paid fighters in 2011 is at best a shot in the dark.

Rafael noted ESPN spends very limited money on boxing programming, it’s one of 1,000 sports it shows and spends billions on the NFL, MLB, NBA and NCAA and that if ESPN was paying a licensing fee of millions for a boxing show than it would be reasonable to compare. White then said that’s like Nike saying a factory in China makes the shoes, not us. “How can we be responsible? ESPN, 2 faced liars.”

“How can they say they are not responsible for what ESPN Friday Night Fights guys get paid? When we pay ten times more.

and they are trying to blast us on what we pay guys!? Lol, it’s a joke. Blew up in their face big time.”

Rafael said, “I am not defending any particular story, I am saying Lorenzo’s argument was flawed, that’s all.”

Rafael then wrote, “Blaming ESPN for the purses a promoter pays on an ESPN show is like blaming Fox (or previously Spike or Versus) for UFC purses.”

“You can’t compare ESPN to UFC,” he wrote. “One is a television network. One is a promotional entity. ESPN akin to Fox. UFC akin to Top Rank.”

White then wrote, “We financed the UFC for 6 years and paid all the fighters out of our pockets. And yes, why doesn’t ESPN pay them more/lic fee.”

But when you figure the bottom pay for a UFC fighter, as a general rule, it’s better than the bottom pay for boxers on televised and even opening match guys on major PPV shows, plus UFC is the first sustaining fight company in the U.S. to give fighters insurance (IFL did as well but they didn’t sustain), which is a big deal.

But even a fairly well known mid-level fighter who is popular, but not a draw, such as Krzysztof Soszynski talked about retirement noting the difficulty he had in supporting his family on his UFC pay. A median UFC fighter will earn $30,000 to $85,000 per year, depending on whether they win their fights, and if they aren’t hurt and can get three fights in during a year. Fertitta himself said the average fighter actually winds up fighting 1.6 times per year. That’s why for most fighters, the performance bonuses that range from $40,000 on smaller shows and usually $65,000 to, for the biggest shows, North of six figures, are such a big deal to the average fighters. That is why some guys make agreements to go all out for the best fight bonuses even if they don’t necessarily implement parts of their games in the process.

That can be augmented by sponsor money, but sponsor money has dried up greatly in recent years both due to the weakening economy and UFC changing the rules where sponsors first have to pay UFC a fee, which can be anywhere from $100,000 to $150,000 per year, before they can even have the right to sponsor fighters. This takes all the local small-time sponsors who may be willing to pay $5,000 or $10,000 to sponsor a local fighter out of the picture, and with that so-called sponsor tax, eliminates a sizeable amount of the sponsor’s budget actually going to fighters. UFC argues, correctly, that virtually no other sport would allow advertising on its TV shows and PPV shows without the league getting a cut. There is also the argument they cut out a large percentage of sponsors who stiff fighters, because of the high price of just getting in meaning fly-by-nighters can’t afford to get in.

For a fighter earning $50,000 per year, and with that you have to pay a percentage to a manager and to trainers, which can easily be 20-30%, and it’s not what it seems to be to the public. Careers are short. In the ESPN.com article, one UFC fighter who wasn’t named said there would be a slew of ex-UFC fighters who are broke in a few years, like ex-boxers. The reality is, that is likely to be the case. That’s also proven to be the case with NFL players with short average careers as the number who end up broke within a few years after their playing days are over is high, and most NFL players earn significantly more than all but the top fighters, and that’s the case with top-name boxers who earn tons more than UFC fighters, which is why they continue to fight long past their primes. So that will end up being the case, just because in the majority of cases that’s how things work out, and would be the case if UFC was paying more as well. We’ve already seen most of the big stars of the previous generation, particularly from the Pride era, who didn’t make what UFC headliners make, but earned far more than most UFC fighters made, that are in their 40s, are having financial issues and in many cases still fighting even though their bodies are destroyed.

ESPN compared the minimum pay to that of the NFL or NHL, but that isn’t germane because revenue is different. But as far as a percentage of revenue that goes to the performers, there are a lot of things that are unknown that would have to be factored in to make a fair comparison. But the higher minimums and higher salaries in major sports came because the players got unionized and had collective bargaining agreements. That has led to minimum salaries,$320,000 per year in the NFL, $473,000 for the NBA (a rookie minimum, if you’ve survived a number of years in the league your minimum escalates to more than $1 million), $480,000 for Major League baseball and $500,000 for the NHL (which it should be noted does not have the huge television deals the other sports have, but does draw huge live gates for nearly every game).

While fighters talk about unions, no boxing or pro wrestling company in the U.S. has ever been able to get its performers on the same page to even come close to unionizing. Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White have always said publicly that it’s up to the fighters if they want to unionize and that they aren’t against it. Nevertheless, in Fertitta’s Station Casinos business, the workers aren’t unionized, and that has been a bone of contention with local unions and is really the reason for the Culinary Workers Union of Las Vegas having their New York branch work hard to keep UFC out of the state. They’ve also attempted to pressure sponsors to stay away from UFC or cut ties with them, and have even attempted to get FOX to disassociate themselves from UFC by pointing to comments made by White and some fighters.

In all of the aforementioned sports, unionization and free agency are the two reasons players earn what they do, and while there is legitimate free agency in MMA with other companies, from a fighter bargaining position, with Strikeforce and the Japanese scene going down, in reality, there isn’t. The argument that the leagues are monopolies is true, but in the NBA, for example, there are 30 teams, and there are a finite number of top players and they are all in competition to field the best teams. So there is competition when contracts expire in the open market which escalates salaries, to the point that the majority of teams pay so much that they were losing money. They had to be saved from the issue of balancing not losing money and building a competitive team competing with those more willing to spend and lose money, or in better media markets and having that financial advantage of higher local market television rights. That’s where the salary caps came in. But there is no answer as to what is “fair” when it comes to company profit vs. athlete compensation. Every dollar spent to talent is a dollar less of profit. Many of the complaints about UFC fighter pay and the “U Fight Cheap,” term for the company that goes around comes from boxing promoters, who are in some cases admittedly jealous. Because there is no dominant promoter and no ability to control pay the way UFC can in the marketplace, have to pay so much more for the name fighters and have a far tougher time generating profits because of it. But on the flip side, the UFC model, even if it is paying a lower percentage of total revenue to fighters, does take better care of the up-and-coming fighters on its roster.

As far as average salary, a terribly misleading stat because the top end players skew it badly, and the median salary (where half make more and half make less would be better) and the NBA averages $5.15 million per player, Major League Baseball around $3.5 million, the NHL $2.4 million and NFL around $1.9 million. The WWE would be between $500,000 and $550,000. UFC is absolutely impossible to ascertain. But if they really paid 50%, it would be in the range of $650,000. At 30%, it would be in the range of $390,000 and at 15% it would be in the range of $195,000. My experience is that UFC fighters making $390,000 per year are usually really big names, but the average and the median number (a better figure but one that is virtually impossible to ascertain for UFC fighters and pro wrestlers) are very different.

Fertitta claimed in the interview that the company since it became profitable has created 39 millionaires, but exactly what that means wasn’t explained. If it means the company has paid more than $1 million to 39 different fighters in total over the last six or seven years, that isn’t nearly as impressive as it sounds. If they know their fighters finances well enough to know that 39 fighters are worth more than $1 million today, that’s very different and it was never explained. It’s nowhere close to that figure of any of the major sports, but it shouldn’t be, because total UFC revenue still pales in comparison with a major sport.

UFC could go down hard and it’s pay structure is somewhat based on guarding against it. If PPV revenue drops, due to a change in market conditions, consumer burnout, fighters who don’t draw on top, whatever, the bulk of the money paid out drops. The Fox deal gives them more breathing room because there is a guaranteed income base, but it’s also tough because it’s a seven-year deal at a certain figure that won’t be open to a negotiated change until 2019 if it turns out conditions change and the PPV business reacts negatively.

If the bulk of fighter pay was guaranteed, the company would be hurt badly by the kind of revenue drops that took place in 2011, but instead from all appearances, while they did take a hit, you don’t see any noticeable sign of major cost cutting, diminishing the trappings of the product, or even slowing down international expansion. Still, even with a comparison to a lower percentage paid out by WWE, the WWE wrestlers get big video game checks which make a huge difference in annual income to the “have-not” level performers, something UFC fighters don’t get (according to one agent who represents a number of big time fighters, if you are in the advertising for the video game you make money for that, but if you are not, you don’t). And that is something exactly the same. But Zuffa also has probably 300 fighters under contract and generates less income (although not a whole lot less) than WWE during a year. At press time, WWE had roughly 74 performers on the main roster and 44 in developmental, so even paying a significantly lower percentage of total revenue to talent, because they only have 74 main roster performers, the majority of them make very healthy incomes. Developmental contracts are usually $24,000 to $50,000 per year, with the majority at the lower level.

A legitimate major UFC drawing card like Georges St. Pierre or Brock Lesnar earns significantly more than John Cena because of their pay-per-view bonuses, and in the case of St. Pierre, getting a higher percentage of endorsements, if they aren’t injured. But when you have a guy who has done a high-risk style for 23 years, like Rey Mysterio, and has bad knees and is in his late 30s, and missed much of the year with knee surgeries and other injuries, and this happens frequently, he still makes a great income between his downside guarantee, his merchandise sales and video game revenue. Then again, a St. Pierre or a Lesnar only has to fight once a year to make a significantly better income, but if they don’t fight, their money goes down astronomically. But their longevity at the top is more fleeting and can’t be protected. Lesnar after two losses would have likely earned significantly less money, while Cena’s income may vary greatly based on a number of factors, but he is protected from losing matches and no longer being able to headline in a way that will diminish his value while he’s still a viable draw.

But both companies are different from major sports franchises in that the big money is not guaranteed, but dependent upon what you draw, whether it be in PPV sales, ticket sales or merchandise. While Cena is likely an exception, at least as of a year or so ago, a top tier WWE wrestler would not get paid more than $1 million downside, but there are a number of headliners earning more than $1.5 million to $2 million per year.

Barr also noted that not wanting to talk wasn’t limited to UFC fighters, and that even Bjorn Rebney, the CEO of Bellator, wouldn’t talk with them on the subject.

“We actually had every intention of going to a Bellator event in Atlantic City, and Rebney (who is involved with ongoing legal issues with UFC) backed out at the 11th hour,” said Barr. “He didn’t want to pick a fight. He didn’t even want to come across appearing to pick a fight. We felt it was interesting. They have a different business model, a tournament model and they pay guys differently. Even this competitor was afraid to take on the UFC establishment.”
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Estrella Dorada Jr., a Monterrey regular, was arrested this past week on charges of robbery and kidnapping an employee from Casino Royale and is awaiting trial. Dorada, 26, said he would be exonerated in trial. Casino Royale was the place nearly blown up by another area wrestler, Voltaje Negro and his gang over the summer. Dorada & Negro were at one point an area tag team. It was huge news in Mexico for a number of reasons. The first is that it was right after the soccer goalkeeper of Monterrey’s Chivas Rayadas team was arrested and both were linked to drug cartels. Dorada Jr. was brought out in handcuffs by police and shown in all media, with his forehead filled with blade scars so it was obvious he was a pro wrestler. He was a well known local wrestler, but the story got major national play in Mexico.
At the WrestleReunion from 1/27 to 1/29 in Los Angeles, not only have they signed Mike Tyson to appear and sign autographs, the first time Tyson has done a pro wrestling autograph show, but on 1/27 at noon they are doing a tribute to Los Angeles wrestling, with live appearances from Gene LeBell (who was actually better known as the television interviewer than as a wrestler and a shooter by the public, although he did wrestle some mostly as a prelim guy except for a main event run in the dying days of the company when he was almost 50 and he was the company shooter), The Destroyer, Superstar Billy Graham, Bengali, Don Savage, Art Mihalik, Billy Rogers, Jimmy Lennon Jr., and publicist/TV announcer Jeff Walton. Beyer will be there selling his new autobiography for the first time.
Hulk Hogan had dental surgery in October to get implants and when his mouth got infected and antibiotics weren’t working, he got a CATSCAN which revealed that one of the doctors had left a metal tack in his mouth. So he had surgery on 1/10 to remove the tack which meant they had to drill a hole in his face. Hogan has also shaved his head and mustache trying to change his look to get acting gigs.
Kurt Angle noted that he was reading WIN Magazine, which is an amateur wrestling newspaper, and in there was an article about high school kids doing both football and wrestling and how wrestling can help make people better football players. They mentioned Stephen Neal in the story, and apparently Angle just found out that Neal started for several years with the New England Patriots. He wrote, “Congrats to Stephen Neal, former NCAA champ and world champ. He is now starting lineman for the Patriots. I trained with him and whooped him.” It’s possible that they trained together, although Neal would have been 19 in Angle’s last year in wrestling, but he was one of the top heavyweights in college wrestling at the time when Angle had graduated and won the Olympics. The point was it appeared Angle didn’t know Neal played for the Patriots, and in fact, didn’t realize Neal retired after the 2010 season ended due to injuries.
Kenny Florian’s career is in jeopardy due to a herniated disc in his lower back, although Florian is right now going with the mentality he’s going to take several months off and then hopefully the rest will allow him to return. Florian, 35, said he was injured in November lifting weights, aggravating back problems that have bothered him for years. He said he’s been dealing with tingling pain and numbness down his right leg and hasn’t been able to train. He said both an orthopedic doctor and a neurologist have urged him to retire. Florian said he’s been going back-and-forth with the doctors and said it’s possible he’ll have to retire, and said as of right now, he can’t train or compete at all. He said he was in a holding pattern, hoping things would get better, and said he’s taking the next six months to heal and make a decision at that point. He said he’s trying to strengthen other parts of his body but whenever he does something physical, he’s just not able to do it and the pain comes back.
Cris Cyborg and Ronda Rousey are going back-and-forth on twitter doing the Rock vs. Cena deal of building up a fight that would take place in a year at the earliest. At least this one probably won’t have the two people fans want to believe hate each other shaking hands on television. Cyborg posted a photo of Carano with her faced smashed in and wrote, “Ronda!!! No mercy!!!” Rousey wrote back, “Cris Cyborg, you don’t just have a dick, you are a dick for posting that picture of Gina, you cheater.”
GSP was on Inside MMA and said he was targeting late October or November for his next fight, expecting to be able to start fight training in July. He’s currently in Los Angeles, where he had surgery, doing his rehab for his knee. He also made it clear he would rather fight Nick Diaz than Carlos Condit. He said he has never trained with Condit, although both are affiliated with Greg Jackson, but likes him. He said he’d rather fight Diaz both for personal reasons and also because he thinks it will be a better promotion. There were rumors that St. Pierre had split with Jackson, but he said he wasn’t aware of them. St. Pierre does most of his training in Montreal and his home team is there, but he does go to Albuquerque in camp and Jackson does formulate his game plans and works his corner. He said the only thing that has changed is that if he was to face Condit, that Jackson would step aside from that fight and he wouldn’t be in either man’s corner or prepare either man for the fight.
The movie “Haywire” starring Gina Carano opens on 1/20 and has gotten strong reviews, with 91% of the critics having positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and Carano herself getting great reviews. The fact the movie was delayed, and then set for a January debut, which is a weak time in the movie season, made a lot of people think it was the studio reaction of an impending bomb, plus going with someone with no acting experience at all in the focal role But at the premiere a few months ago, it and she got a great reaction.
Nate Marquardt has been released from his contract with the U.K. promotion BAMMA before fighting there. He was set to headline a 2/28 show in Birmingham, England, against Yoshiyuki Yoshida to crown a welterweight champion. The show is being moved to 3/24. There are reports that the promotion can’t afford what they signed him for and nothing has been announced for the next show. It’ll be interesting to see where he resurfaces. One would think that Spike would want him on Bellator, but to get a shot at Ben Askren, he’d have to go through the tournament.
Vince McMahon purchased three Ferraris in the last week and was also seen driving a new Bentley in Greenwich according to the local paper’s gossip column.
DDP claimed credit through his yoga for Chris Jericho’s return. He said Jericho had a herniated disc in his lower back and doctors told him he was done. I always thought it was his contract expiring and it was months before he left when word got out that he’d be leaving when his contract expired. Page said Jericho was able to come back using Page’s yoga workouts. “He did not think he was going to be able to come back. Within two weeks he was already feeling, `Wait a minute. I think I’m gonna be able to do this,’ and then five weeks, that’s when he put that testimonial that changed my life and I’m virtually pain free. Today, he’s completely pain free.” Page said Jericho texted him and told him Marella wants to start doing the workouts and that he’s going to get the whole locker room to do them.
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Year end awards issue (if anyone wants the actual pro wrestling stuff let me know)
MIXED MARTIAL ARTS MOST VALUABLE

1. GEORGES ST. PIERRE (280) 2,060

2. Jon Jones (129) 1,529

3. Anderson Silva (116) 1,336

4. Junior Dos Santos (3) 149

5. Dan Henderson (2) 113

6. Nick Diaz (1) 87

7. Cain Velasquez (5) 66

8. Frankie Edgar (3) 55

9. Chael Sonnen (5) 47

10. Urijah Faber 46

With two PPV shows that did in the 800,000 range of buys (the December Josh Koscheck fight counts in this awards period), St. Pierre, 30, the UFC's welterweight champion and arguably one of the two greatest fighters in the history of the promotion, won the lone award that had eluded him.

St. Pierre had finished second, behind Brock Lesnar, the previous three years. With Lesnar not fighting all year, he became the logical winner because he continued a winning streak that dates back to 2007 with being the sport's biggest drawing card.

It was a three person race, but not a close one. Jon Jones, 24, as far as inside the cage, with wins over Ryan Bader, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua and Quinton Jackson, all by finish, and all in totally one-sided matches, was the best fighter of the year. But he has not yet established himself as a drawing card or star at the level of St. Pierre. Jones and Jose Aldo Jr. look to be the two fighters who can become what St. Pierre and Anderson Silva have been, which are long-term champions and guys who appear to be far ahead of the pack.

Anderson Silva, 36, opened the year with a devastating first round knockout of Vitor Belfort in the biggest non-St. Pierre fight. He followed it up with a one-sided destruction of Yushin Okami. The difference between Silva and Jones, at least at this point, and St. Pierre, is that Silva's striking and reflexes appeared to have a Mike Tyson-esque scary quality to where both of his opponents appeared to be beaten before either match had ever started.

New category in 2007. Highest place winner from MMA in previous Thesz/Flair award balloting: 1994 - Royce Gracie; 1995 - Ken Shamrock; 1996 - Mark Coleman; 1997 - Maurice Smith; 1998 - Frank Shamrock; 1999 - Frank Shamrock; 2000 - Kazushi Sakuraba; 2001 - Kazushi Sakuraba; 2002 - Bob Sapp; 2003 - Randy Couture; 2004 - Wanderlei Silva; 2005 - Kid Yamamoto; 2006 - Tito Ortiz
MOST OUTSTANDING FIGHTER OF THE YEAR

1. JON JONES (452) 2,592

2. Anderson Silva (54) 934

3. Junior Dos Santos (7) 484

4. Georges St. Pierre (21) 405

5. Dan Henderson (12) 331

6. Dominick Cruz (1) 302

7. Frankie Edgar (2) 164

8. Nick Diaz (3) 163

9. Ben Henderson (4) 124

10. Jose Aldo Jr. (1) 109

With his three wins during the period, Jones got the nod over Anderson Silva, Junior Dos Santos and Georges St. Pierre, all of whom only had two fights.

St. Pierre's injury which led to him not fighting late in the year against Carlos Condit may have cost him his fourth straight win in this category. While he dominated Josh Koscheck, he didn't finish him, and against Jake Shields, he was poked in the eye early, couldn't see out of the eye and adopted a more defensive oriented style in winning a boring decision in his highest profile fight.

Silva vanquished his two opponents but never faced his top contender, Chael Sonnen. Dos Santos won a decision over Shane Carwin and scored a one-punch knockout over Cain Velasquez. The top three all were completely dominant for the year.

Henderson, 41, was a surprise contender, and went 4-0 during the period with knockout wins over Renato "Babalu" Sobral to earn a shot at the Strikeforce light heavyweight title, Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante to win the belt, Fedor Emelianenko in a heavyweight bout, followed by a close decision win over Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in a match that is being talked about as one of the greatest in history.

Ultimately, this was a strong year in this category as really the top eight finishers were all strong candidates (Ben Henderson looked impressive in his wins, but he was not facing championship level guys and also lost to Anthony Pettis during the period).

Given Jones' age, he has the chance to be the greatest champion the sport has ever seen, but then again, potential staying power and actually doing it are two different things. Plus, as this year showed, the competition when it comes to Most Outstanding Fighter is deeper than ever.

PREVIOUS WINNERS: 1997 - Maurice Smith; 1998 - Frank Shamrock; 1999 - Frank Shamrock; 2000 - Kazushi Sakuraba; 2001 - Wanderlei Silva; 2002 - Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira; 2003 - Randy Couture; 2004 - Wanderlei Silva; 2005 - Fedor Emelianenko; 2006 - Mirko Cro Cop; 2007 - Quinton Jackson; 2008 - Georges St. Pierre; 2009 - Georges St. Pierre; 2010 - Georges St. Pierre
BEST BOX OFFICE DRAW

1. THE ROCK (319) 2,222

2. Georges St. Pierre (244) 2,035

3. John Cena (53) 1,244

4. C.M. Punk (2) 273

5. Anderson Silva (10) 211

6. Jon Jones (11) 146

7. Cain Velasquez 51

8. L.A. Park 40

At the start of 2011, the winner of this award would have been the easiest and most obvious to pick. As with the previous three years, there was nobody that was going to outdraw Brock Lesnar.

It should be noted that Lesnar garnered a significant amount of votes here (and for MMA Most Valuable), but the decision was made that since he did not have one fight during the period, that he should not be eligible. He still didn't get so many that he was a contender. Lesnar would be eligible next year for his fight with Alistair Overeem, although unless business tanks and there are no big fights and nobody does much in wrestling, I can't see him having a shot at winning.

But if you were told Lesnar was out and had 20 choices who would win, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson would not be among them. While Johnson, 39, had talked about coming back for years for a possible guest host spot on Raw, in hindsight, it was the best for all concerned that it never happened. It would have softened the Impact for what did happen when he returned in February on Raw live for the first time in years. Johnson's return led to a string of sellouts for Raw television tapings that lasted until WrestleMania, and boosted WrestleMania to being the second biggest PPV number in pro wrestling history (about 1.12 million/679,000 in North America)) and third biggest live gate in history ($6,268,391).

This was one of the closer races in this year's balloting, and certainly one that can be heavily debated. In Rock's corner was that he did move television ratings for all but his last two appearances, and even on his last appearance when he came out for his angle, the quarter showed a giant gain.

But St. Pierre should have won. First off, in the same head-to-head market, both of St. Pierre's shows beat WrestleMania on PPV (775,000 and 800,000), and he didn't have the advantage of a built in tradition dating back to the 80s to boost his numbers.

St. Pierre headlined the Toronto show that set the North American MMA attendance record (55,724), and did a live gate that nearly doubled any pro wrestling or MMA event in history ($12,075,000 ). But as the clincher, Johnson's first match back at Survivor Series did, based on the last estimate, only 160,000 North American buys. Granted, it is easier for a fighter to move PPV numbers than a pro wrestler these days, but that's because fighters these days are bigger draws than pro wrestlers. So while Johnson has a strong case for second, as would Anderson Silva and Jon Jones, in this case, St. Pierre was robbed of his rightful first place.

PREVIOUS WINNERS: 1997 - Hulk Hogan; 1998 - Steve Austin; 1999 - Steve Austin; 2000 - The Rock; 2001 - Kazushi Sakuraba; 2002 - Bob Sapp; 2003 - Bob Sapp; 2004 - Kenta Kobashi; 2005 - Kenta Kobashi; 2006 - Mistico; 2007 - John Cena; 2008 - Brock Lesnar; 2009 - Brock Lesnar; 2010 - Brock Lesnar
SHOOT MATCH OF THE YEAR

1. DAN HENDERSON VS. SHOGUN RUA 11/19 SAN JOSE (316)1,921

2. Ben Henderson vs. Clay Guida 11/12 Anaheim (46) 850

3. Eddie Alvarez vs. Michael Chandler 11/19 Atlantic City (61) 657

4. Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard 1/1 Las Vegas (57) 631

5. Ben Henderson vs. Anthony Pettis 12/16/10 Phoenix (52) 492

6. Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley 4/8 San Diego (21) 433

7. Diego Sanchez vs. Martin Kampmann 3/3 Louisville (6) 169

8. Jose Aldo Jr. vs. Mark Hominick 4/30 Toronto (2) 93

9. Fedor Emelianenko vs. Dan Henderson 7/30 Chicago 78

10. Urijah Faber vs. Dominick Cruz 7/2 Las Vegas 75

More than any other award this year, this was the category where you look at it and realize what a great year it was for fights.

When Ben Henderson vs. Anthony Pettis ended last December, I didn't think there was any way it wasn't going to win. You had five great rounds, in a fight going the distance that was close to dead even, decided by the greatest flying kick in the history of the UFC in the final seconds. It was not only the best finish in MMA, but one of the best finishes to a sporting event all year.

When Diego Sanchez vs. Martin Kampmann was over, Lorenzo Fertitta and Dana White were so impressed by the war that they gave both men a $60,000 bonus when, because it was a TV fight, they were only planning on giving $40,000 bonuses. An hour later, they changed their mind again, and gave both men an additional $100,000 because of how great a fight they put on, the first time in history they've ever done something quite like that. And it only placed seventh.

The reality is that the top seven place winners this year all would have been strong candidates to win in almost any other year. Not one of them, when it was over, did you not think you had just seen a match of the year winner. And all seven fights were different.

But in the end, it was the UFC 139 main event of Dan Henderson vs. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua, a five round war which saw Henderson win the first three rounds, and Rua dominate four and five. Many, if not most felt the final round was 10-8 and the fight should have been a draw, but Henderson got the nod, ending an eight day period that included arguably the year's three best fights. Some would say four, and include Cung Le vs. Wanderlei Silva, in a fight that would be a candidate most years and this year nobody even considered it. Another example of how good the year was is that the third Frankie Edgar vs. Gray Maynard fight, a genuine classic, couldn't even crack the top ten.

PREVIOUS WINNERS: 1997 - Maurice Smith vs. Mark Coleman 7/27 Birmingham; 1998 - Jerry Bohlander vs. Kevin Jackson 3/13 New Orleans; 1999 - Frank Shamrock vs. Tito Ortiz 9/24 Lake Charles; 2000 - Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Royce Gracie 5/1 Tokyo Dome; 2001 - Randy Couture vs. Pedro Rizzo 5/4 Atlantic City; 2002 - Don Frye vs. Yoshihiro Takayama 6/23 Saitama; 2003 - Wanderlei Silva vs. Hidehiko Yoshida 11/9 Tokyo Dome; 2004 - Quinton Jackson vs. Wanderlei Silva 10/31 Saitama; 2005 - Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar 4/9 Las Vegas; 2006 - Diego Sanchez vs. Karo Parisyan 8/17 Las Vegas; 2007 - Randy Couture vs. Tim Sylvia 3/3 Columbus; 2008 - Forrest Griffin vs. Quinton Jackson 7/5 Las Vegas; 2009 - Diego Sanchez vs. Clay Guida 6/20 Las Vegas; 2010 - Leonard Garcia vs. Chan Sung Jung 4/24 Sacramento
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Regarding the Jesse Ventura story about being knocked down by Chris Kyle five years ago and his denial, and looking for a retraction from FOX News, Bill O'Reilly claimed he had been told by at least four other witnesses that it was true, two of whom asked not to be named.
Andre Davis, the Ohio based wrestler who was convicted on charges of felonious assault for sleeping with 11 women in Hamilton County (there are also charges pending against him in neighboring counties but with him locked up for so long, they are likely irrelevant now) after finding out he was HIV positive in medical tests taken as WWE was about to hire him as a referee, was sentenced to 32 years in jail. Ohio law requires someone who knows they are HIV positive to reveal this information before having sexual contact with anyone. Davis wrestled in the area under a number of names, most notably Andre Heart, doing a playboy gimmick that he to a degree lived. Davis, after being sentenced, said that his dream since childhood was to be a pro wrestler, and when he found out he wasn't being hired by WWE and had tested positive for HIV, he went into depression and the depression caused his addiction to sex that dated back to high school to get out of control. He admitted not telling anyone he was HIV positive, claiming he was afraid it would get back to his family and his children. Prosecutors asked Judge Jerome Metz to give Davis 88 years in prison, saying there were 11 victims and Davis has shown no responsibility for his actions. Police also confiscated his cell phone and found hundreds of phone numbers of women who are being contacted to see if they had sexual contact with him.
While Hulk Hogan in an interview last week told TMZ.com that he shaved of f his hair and stache to get acting roles, apparently that was just Hogan being full of it given that a new photo surfaced and he still had both. Actually, he may have a shaved head since he's claimed in the past he no longer has hair. He's said what passes for his hair are extensions because of a bleaching accident. He definitely has used extensions, but since the bleaching accident story came from his book, which has verifiable bullshit on virtually every page, who knows if that bleaching story is true or not.
The movie "Haywire" starring Gina Carano had a very disappointing opening weekend, grossing $8,425,370. Expectations going in were modest, in the $9-12 million opening weekend range and it didn't quite hit that bottom figure. It was No. 6 for the weekend. Of the three big releases (the others being "Underworld Awakening" and "Red Tails,") it was a distant third. An interesting note is that it got about 80-85% positive reviews, but audience reactions to the movie were not as positive, generally running about 54% favorable. Usually it's the other way around, where the people like the movie and the critics don't. Carano got generally good reviews, as they hid her inexperience, but she was convincing in the fight scenes, some of which some audiences found uncomfortable. She was in two fight scenes with men she had relationships with and a third she was pretending to like that came off like domestic violence, because she was getting punched and kicked by the guys before making her comebacks. The movie was budgeted at $23 million, roughly the same as "The Marine," that John Cena starred in, and opened at $7.1 million, and was WWE's lone strongly profitable movie due to DVD sales. This movie is expected to break even because it's the kind of movie that usually plays well internationally. By comparison, it did significantly better in the U.K., opening at No. 2 and beating "Underworld Awakening," at $1.9 million. The idea of this movie was to expose Carano and showcase her with the idea of creating movies for her as a female ass kicking James Bond type. Roger Ebert predicted she would be a star, saying, "I expect her to become a considerable box office success, because the fact is, within a limited range, she's good. In the movie's first scene, she walks into a little café in upstate New York, sits down, sips a little tea and had me hooked."
Here is the situation with the fights this weekend. Barring injury, the Chael Sonnen vs. Michael Bisping winner meets Anderson Silva, probably on 6/16 at the soccer stadium in Sao Paulo. Dana White said even if Bisping wins, it wouldn't be in England because the attendance and ratings potential of the fight is so much bigger in Brazil, which UFC currently feels is its No. 1 market, as White is calling it "The new Canada." Sonnen said he could 100% guarantee that if he wins that he would not face Silva, but White said that if Sonnen wins, he could 100% guarantee that fight would be made. Doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for either guy. In the light heavyweight division, if Rashad Evans wins and isn't injured, he'll face Jon Jones. If Phil Davis wins, most likely Jones would instead face Dan Henderson, who is sitting and waiting right now. Henderson was offered a fight with Antonio Rogerio Nogueira, who beat him back in the Pride days, but turned it down, figuring at this stage of his career the risk/reward ratio isn't good. Henderson won't get a title fight any quicker, and since he's a PPV bonus guy, there is no point in taking a fight that isn't likely to draw anything special. White also noted to Ariel Helwani and others that he tried to make Rousimar Palhares vs. Demian Maia. Palhares said he was too banged up to come back so fast (given how he looked in Brazil, I'd hate to see him when he's not banged up) plus Maia didn't like the idea of fighting another Brazilian, so that's where Chris Weidman got his shot. This is a real big one for him because he can make himself a star with a win and this on paper is a winnable fight for him. I can get the idea of teammates not wanting to fight each other, even though most fans don't fully get it. But once you start with the idea that a Brazilian thinks Brazilians shouldn't have to fight each other, that's ridiculous.
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Regarding the idea of year-round random drug testing of fighters, UFC is not closed-minded to the idea and it appears the announcement of testing upon signing a contract was just the first step. Marc Ratner told USA Today, "Yes, we are certainly talking about it. We hate when we have these fights and the commissions test them (and) people come back positive. That's against everything we believe in. Health and safety is our most important part of business. These fighters are our assets and we need to have them fight. We want them to be healthy and clean and not be doing these illegal street drugs or performance enhancing drugs. So absolutely, we're going to be looking at more stringent policies." He said they are going to have more executive meetings and he was in favor of having more tests, and said cost isn't a factor. Nothing is going to be perfect but I would want two sets of testing. The regular testing that they would do as far as steroids, and blood testing on a regular basis for anyone with a testosterone use exemption to make sure they aren't abusing the exemption. I don't think the blood GH tests are cost-effective because in talking to athletes, they don't believe those tests are real (the people caught thus far have been I don't want to say set up to be caught, but that isn't exactly far from the truth either). Point is, GH is still going to be used until there is a better test, although the idea of doing tests right before the fight for EPO would be something worth doing.
King Mo Lawal has been saying that he has never used any performance enhancing drug and his manager, Mike Kogan (the HDNet TV announcer) said that neither he nor Lawal had ever even heard of Drostanolone, but said they are not going to appeal the positive test and told Ariel Helwani on the MMA Hour that what caused the positive was a supplement called S Mass Lean Gainer by Rock Solid, which Lawal said he bought at a Max Muscle store in April 2010 and used it only sporadically. Kogan said that the product, which is no longer marketed, contained Methyl Drostanolone. A few days earlier, Kogan said Lawal took an anti-inflammatory steroid Dexamethasone three or four weeks before the fight when he was having fluid drained from his knee and they were told at the time by the doctor who did it that it wouldn't show up as a positive on a steroid test. But that wouldn't show up as a Drostanolone positive. Where Lawal may have a semblance of a case here is that he said he still has the supplement in his house. If he gets it tested and it shows Drostanolone was in there, he has a viable excuse because S Mass Lean Gainer hasn't been on the market for about seven months, so he couldn't have read up looking for a scapegoat supplement and then bought it last week. After reading up and finding that this supplement can cause a positive test, he is not challenging the test result itself. Now, you are responsible for what you put into your body and that supplement specifically states it shouldn't be used if you are in a sport that steroid tests.
Arthur Jones, the older brother of Jon Jones, who plays offensive tackle for the Baltimore Ravens, has said he wants to do MMA after his football days are over. He has a wrestling background, winning two New York state high school titles as a heavyweight, and has strong clinch work. He trained MMA at the Greg Jackson camp over the summer and said if the NFL lock out had continued, he'd have fought this winter.
Former UFC star Mirko Cro Cop, whose contract with the company expired with his last fight, will do a kickboxing match against Ray Sefo on 3/10 in Croatia. Cro Cop is coming off tearing his right biceps tendon and this is definitely pushing it for a return.
Mike Whitehead, 30, a veteran fighter who was a member of the cast of The Ultimate Fighter and has also fought in UFC, Strikeforce, the IFL and Affliction, was sentenced to between one and four years in prison stemming from his guilty plea in an attempted sexual assault case. Whitehead, a former All-American college wrestler at Southern Oregon University, had taken the Alford plea (no contest), meaning he would not admit that anything happened, but agreed that prosecutors had enough evidence for a conviction. He was charged with sexual assault on two women who were at his house for a party in 2010 and officers also found 40 marijuana plants at the home. He since moved from Las Vegas to Tucson where he owns a gym. He also has to pay $2,400 in restitution to the victims and has to register as a sex offender the rest of his life. There had been the belief that Whitehead's guilty plea would spare him from serving time and having to register as a sex offender. Judge Douglas Herndon said he was troubled that Whitehead, even after plea bargain, would never admit to what he did and that is why he hit him with such a harsh sentence. "I can't buy complete denial–that nothing happened. I just can't put you on probation," said Herndon. A 32-year-old woman had told police that she and a friend were at Whitehead's home for a barbecue and both were drinking. Whitehead told them they could stay in his home and sleep in his bed. One of the women told police that she awoke from sleep with her pants down and Whitehead having sex with her. She claimed she told him to stop, but claimed he continued for three more minutes. Whitehead was in the cast of season two of The Ultimate Fighter with Rashad Evans, Joe Stevenson and Keith Jardine, and had a 27-7 record, which included wins over Mark Kerr, Ben Rothwell. Kevin Randleman, Eddie Sanchez and Krzysztof Soszynski.
Ilima Maiava, who lost to Dream regular Tatsuya Mizuno on the Pro Elite show on 1/21 in Honolulu via arm triangle choke at 1:47 of the second round, is the grandson of Hawaiian pro wrestling legend Neff Maiava and the older brother of Kaluka Maiava of the Cleveland Browns. If you're keeping track, I think that would make him an honorary second cousin of The Rock. Kaluka Maiava said that his older brother was a far better athlete than he was, and was an NFL caliber athlete, but joined the Coast Guard (he's still working there). That show was headlined by former Ultimate Fighter winner Kendall Grove winning a fairly one-sided decision over Minowa-man, and Olympic wrestling silver medalist Sara McMann beating Hiromi Akano also via decision. McMann showed really strong takedowns, as expected, with some hard slams. I would expect her to be showing up in Strikeforce in the 135-pound weight class, particularly if Ronda Rousey wins the title on 3/3. The idea of a silver medalist in wrestling vs. bronze medalist in judo is a natural for Showtime and to give women's MMA a sports credibility.
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Live in Baltimore, though not a Ravens fan, Jones' brother is a DT/DE, not an OT. They have interviews w/ him in the paper whenever his brother fights.
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The most talked about feud of the weekend was in MMA, with UFC president Dana White cutting promos all weekend against a mysterious adversary known as “Anon,” a web site hacker who vowed to make White’s life miserable for the UFC supporting SOPA (the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act). “Anon,” claimed credit for hacking the UFC web site for several hours last week, and later briefly for a second time. They also hacked the site of fighter Jason Miller.

He also published what purported to be personal data on White, including a home address, social security number and home phone numbers. The home address and phone numbers were not White’s. The Las Vegas media reported the numbers were to a woman named Julie Breener, who was then bombarded with phone calls from people yelling at her for supporting SOPA and not paying the fighters enough money. White actually went to visit her and personally apologize. Apparently the mix-up came because she once had a cat named Dana, the cat was white, and she used to get mail for the cat addressed to Dana White.

White labeled him and his cohorts as terrorists. That word got some people’s ire up because people felt he was being like Stephanie McMahon and equating his own issues to being equivalent to what people think of as terrorist attacks, such as what happened at 9/11. White in writing made it clear that he didn’t equate the two at all, although in an interview with Mauro Ranallo he did make the analogy to what happened in New York. He went on to say it was like that situation and how we didn’t sit back and act scared of terrorists and how the country came back and kicked ass and how that’s what’s going to happen here.

White told Ariel Helwani: “The way this whole thing has gone down, them hacking our site is the best thing they could have done for us. Because what that does is now, you look like terrorists and now a lot of people who were afraid of you now hate you. Is this bill perfect? No. No bill is perfect. I think this thing started off with the right idea. Stealing is stealing, it’s not right and there’s something that needs to be worked out.”

At one point during the week, the guy claiming to be the perpetrator and White went back and forth on twitter. The person calling himself “Anon” asked White what he had against the Internet and White responded, “I love the Internet. It helped us grow our biz. Stealing is stealing. And hacking into people’s shit is terrorism.”

White said the same people who complain about fighters pay are the ones stealing, and said that cowards hide behind screen names. Anon then talked about Freedom Fighters in Syria who can’t use their names for fear of reprisals and claimed White’s portrayal of him as a terrorist disappointed him. He said he’s fighting for positive social change and tried to get White to read about things going on in Egypt. White said if they want to change the world, good for them, but don’t steal his shit.

Whether this is true or not, and I’d think odds are good it isn’t, a web site called Softpedia.com did an interview with the person and claimed he was a 13-year-old from Australia who started hacking at the age of 11. He claimed had has hacked 150 sites, 81 of which have been U.S. and Brazilian government sites, and claimed he would be hacking the Oakland police department soon.

On the night before the Chicago show, between working on the show, White, until probably 4 a.m. local time, was on the MMA.tv message board trying to drum up support. Unfortunately for him, a message board is the wrong place to go looking for support when it comes to online piracy. There is a generational divide in values of people who believe that everything should be free on the Internet including live PPV shows. The justification is that the people who promote the shows are rich and greedy for charging so much, and that, as fans of the sport, they have the right to keep up with the sport without spending money. The argument is they can do so with other sports by watching the biggest events on free television. With PPV being the company’s main revenue stream, the proliferation of people streaming has become a major fight, with both UFC and WWE hiring people to find and kill streams while shows are on. But in reality it’s a whack-a-mole like game. Currently, more people stream PPVs than actually buy them.

Those who stream make the argument that the companies aren’t hurt by this because the people streaming wouldn’t be buying in the first place. Undoubtedly that is true in the majority of cases. Whether that makes it justifiable depends on a lot on ones value structure. Promoters liken it to stealing and that if you would go to a store and see an outfit that they you, you don’t just steal it because the store makes a lot of money, you think it’s priced too high or you simply want the outfit without paying the price. Just as obviously, it does cost the companies some revenue. How much, is open to interpretation. PPV numbers were down this past year, but the big boxing events did better than expected. The declines would have been there even if there was no such thing as streaming based on less attractive shows due to weaker build-up or in the case of UFC, all the injuries that killed so many main events. Movie business declined this year, but there are always variations based on whether it’s a good or bad year for hit movies. Even for those in sports who don’t use a PPV model, there is a long-term big picture if Internet becomes your television, and that is closer to happening every day. The question is regard what kind of value television content, like live sports, will have. Currently the rights are sold individually to stations in different markets. If the day comes that market exclusivity for the package won’t be there any longer, then the value of that package greatly decreases. The idea that Raw, or a UFC package, or an NBA package, can sell exclusive rights in different foreign countries may be meaningless if everyone is watching through the Internet and bypassing the local television channels. Others argue that all of this is inevitable, and it’s adapt or change time, similar to what already happened with the music industry.

UFC has even sued Justin.tv, trying to get a ruling that would put the onus on people who have web sites that allow people to put up streams to be responsible for what is on their site. Right now the general rule is that the companies such as that who allow people to put things up, if contacted by a copyright holder, will quickly take them down. Content providers are attempting to get legislation passed that would make the web sites responsible if what people put on their site is illegal. If found, the site itself can be held liable as opposed to just being informed and then taking things down.

Congress itself is caught in this fight. Coming from the generation that didn’t grow up with the mentality everything should be available free on the Internet, including first-run movies as soon as they are released, they are sympathetic to writers, producers and content providers. Plus, there is the pressure that many of these big companies, such as the major movie studios and other providers, are contributors to political campaigns. They employ people so them going under could cost jobs. The flip side is enough constituents, who firmly believe otherwise, dominate the Internet and can easily mobilize against any legislation, and argue it creates jobs (even to the extent the argument it has created jobs in UFC and WWE for people hired to police the Internet during the hours the PPV shows are on). So there is the fear of how pushing this legislation can get them targeted by people who have the ability to mobilize and there is the fear that targeting could get them voted out of office.

This has led to the House of Representatives running from SOPA last week, with Rep. Lamar Smith, who drafted the original bill, backing off and saying the committee is still committed to finding a solution to the problem, but is postponing consideration of the legislation until there is a wider agreement on a solution.

When Megaupload’s web site was shut down, the response was the Justice Department’s web site being hacked. This is a story that is never going to end, legislation or not, because the genie is out of the bottle. Even stringent laws will have difficulty being enforced when many offending sites are out of the U.S. Thus far many of those sites have been immune even to the threat of legal action by the biggest content providers even when they go so far as to sell subscriptions to their sites and posting copyrighted works.

This will undoubtedly result in killing some industries, creating some industries and greatly changing others. White admitted that the SOPA legislation wasn’t perfect, but that no legislation is, and he was just fighting to keep people from stealing his PPV shows.
IGF champion Jerome LeBanner has signed for an MMA fight on 2/25 in Plock, Poland against Marcin Rozalski. LeBanner, a kickboxing legend in Japan, whose pro wrestling gig has him dressed up as a kickboxer wearing kickboxing gloves, is 3-2 under MMA rules. LeBanner’s next IGF title match will be 2/17 at the Tokyo Dome City Hotel against Peter Aerts. Good to see long-term planning is in effect given that Aerts did a submission job in minutes to Kazuyuki Fujita at the New Year’s Eve show.
Antonio Inoki has signed another former disgraced fired sumo for IGF, which will run seven shows this year. Masyauki Okamoto, 28, debut on the same show against Bob Sapp. Okamoto is the latest former sumo celebrity Inoki is bringing into pro wrestling. He was kicked out of sumo as being one of the fighters in this past year’s match fixing scandal.
Besides the Dragon Gate show, there were two other major shows over the weekend in conjunction with the WrestleReunion convention in Los Angeles. Mike Tyson was there and apparently hit it off big with Superstar Billy Graham. Tyson was a big WWWF fan growing up and Bruno Sammartino was his hero, which led to a funny moment on Raw in 1998. Tyson was brought in and on a live mic asked who his favorite wrestler was, and he screamed like a fan “Bruno Sammartino,” at a time when that name wasn’t ever mentioned or probably allowed to be on broadcasts. Tyson also brought up being a fan of Sonny King, “The Colorful Valiants,” Stan Stasiak and Don Leo Jonathan, and talked about how he remembered Sonny King as tag team champion (with Jay Strongbow 1972-73). He kept telling Graham, “Be real with me, stop cutting promos with me, and talk to me brother.” Graham was so jazzed up meeting Tyson that he kept talking in promo mode. Tyson loved Graham but wanted to talk with him non-promo style like he did with some of the older wrestlers who asked him about the Super Bowl and today’s boxing. When Graham saw Lanny Poffo and hugged him Tyson finally said, “He’s now being real, he’s an emotional guy because his friend (Randy Savage) died.” He kept going off on how excited he was to meet Graham, but also talked with Greg Valentine and Brutus Beefcake and some of the other guys he grew up watching.
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The lawsuit between the Toffoloni family (the parents and sister of the late Nancy Benoit) and Hustler magazine continued this past week. When Benoit was murdered, Hustler came across nude photos of her taken more than 22 years earlier from a video she made. She had later told the photographer to destroy the video but there were negatives kept. They published the photos. The family sued, noting she had never given permission for the photos to be used and thought they were destroyed. They claimed that the photos constituted legitimate news story coverage. Each side won a round. At one point the family won a $19.6 million judgement against the magazine, but it was later reduced to $250,000 due to a Georgia law regarding capping verdicts in lawsuits. The magazine this past week went to Federal Appeals Court to get the verdict against them thrown out on charges that a verdict against them for publishing the photos violates the first amendment rights of a magazine. The Toffoloni family instead is arguing that due to damages that the verdict should be more than the $250,000.
We didn’t report it at the time but Myron Roderick, a legendary college wrestling coach at Oklahoma State, passed away on 12/28 at the age of 77. Roderick won three national titles from 1954-1956, losing only twice during his career, and then placed fourth in the 1956 Olympics, losing only to eventual gold medalist Shozo Sasahara. He took over as wrestling coach in 1958, at the age of 23, leading Oklahoma State to the national title. He followed that up coaching national championship teams in 1959, 1961, 1962, 1964 (a team that had Jack Brisco and Yojiro Uetake), 1966 and 1968 before leaving coaching and becoming athletic director in 1970.
Ric Flair’s business deal we hinted about before was announced this past week. He signed a multi-year contract with BYB Brands for a Coca-Cola distributed Energy and Protein drink they are marketing called Fuel in a Bottle. The drink is first being marketed in the Southeast, which is why they wanted Flair involved, and should be on shelves in March. Flair will be doing television and radio commercials for the drink. How long Flair remains with TNA after this deal is signed is open to conjecture. The deal is supposedly more lucrative than his wrestling deal and he had talked that before about the deal as something that would allow him to leave wrestling if he should want to. Not sure that he wants to leave wrestling because he still seems to love going out and hanging out drinking and watching sports events with the guys after hours. Hogan gave an indication, although it’s Hogan so who knows the veracity, that TNA was going to let Flair go to the WWE Hall of Fame. He actually said both sides were talking, so it could be negotiations are ongoing. Or it could be Hogan.
The FTC investigation of the UFC purchase of Strikeforce and whether it constituted a monopoly ended this past week with the decision made to take no action. The FTC web site stated there was an investigation on whether the purchase violated Section 7 of the Clayton Act or Section 5 of the FTC act. On 1/25, they stated the investigation has been closed. Both the FTC and a recent interview by Lorenzo Fertitta confirmed the actual price UFC purchased Strikeforce from co-owners Scott Coker and Silicon Valley Sports and Entertainment was $34 million.
Alistair Overeem was charged with one count of misdemeanor battery in a shoving incident in Las Vegas two nights after his win over Brock Lesnar. Overeem was cited to pie facing a woman at about 3 a.m. on the night of 1/1 at the Wynn Hotel in Las Vegas, causing her to stagger backwards. He is scheduled for a 2/21 court appearance. David Chesnoff, a famous Las Vegas attorney, will be representing him.
Matt Hughes after the FOX show when asked if he was retired, he said that his wife said he was retired. But he thinks he hasn’t retired, and Dana White would be the deciding vote. The deal is Hughes has a big money contract that likely includes PPV points, but to make that level of a contract make sense you have to be able to draw and be viable near the top of the card. I don’t know if people care enough about Hughes fighting and there’s a right opponent to make it work.
A documentary called “Like Water,” which was based on Anderson Silva preparing for his 2010 fight with Chael Sonnen, is expected to get a theatrical release this summer. Cinedigm Entertainment Group purchased rights to the movie, with Lionsgate handling the theatrical distribution in North America and Cinemavault handling it internationally. Pablo Croce, the director, was awarded Best New Documentary Director at the 2011 Tribeca Film Festival where the movie was screened.
M-1 Global is claiming that Fedor Emelianenko would fight again in the summer, and they were looking at the fight taking place in Monaco. They are looking for Emelianenko to face a European fighter, although Bobby Lashley has pushed to get the fight.
The career of 2008 Olympic gold medalist Satoshi Ishii, 25, is in jeopardy after it was revealed he’s got a cerebral edema from one of the punches from Fedor Emelianenko in the New Year’s Eve fight in Saitama.
Mike Tyson is the latest to be announced for the WWE Hall of Fame. Why not? With the exception of Mr. T (who has turned down requests to be put in), and Cyndi Lauper, no celebrity has meant as much for WWE. Tyson took Steve Austin from one level to another. Austin made more money for the company than anyone and ushered in the period when WWE was more popular than any other period, so you can make a case from him being the most important. Although the affiliation of Mr. T with Hogan took Hogan from being someone over to wrestling fans to someone who everybody knew, and if not for Mr. T, there would have either been no WrestleMania, or if there had been, it would have been a bust and everything would have ended up differently. The announcement got some mainstream pub, probably more than any in a while.
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Even days after the conclusion of the fight, the debates remain. Who won between Carlos Condit and Nick Diaz?

According to the judges, Condit won a unanimous decision to become the UFC interim welterweight champion on 2/4 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. The decision was close, and there is guaranteed outrage over any big main event where it could have gone either way.

The facts are this. Condit backed up most of the five rounds and Diaz moved forward. Condit outlanded Diaz in four of the five rounds. Condit came in with a game plan that was not meant to be entertaining, but meant to throw Diaz off his game. He did so. Diaz was befuddled for most of the fight to find an answer to Condit's backing up, moving in, landing something and moving away. That doesn't necessarily mean Diaz lost, since people were split and if anything, the appearance is more felt Diaz won. But this was not the Shogun Rua vs. Lyoto Machida decision where virtually everyone was on the other side. This was a battle of interpretations and what means more, being the aggressor, landing more, head shots vs. leg shots, being more comfortable and fighting your fight. And there was the caveat that almost everyone wanted to see Diaz win because the fight everyone wanted was Georges St. Pierre vs. Diaz, even people who don't like Diaz. The thing is, with Diaz, everyone has an opinion. Some don't like him. A lot. Some like him. A lot. With Condit, nobody has an opinion. He's just a guy who is a good fighter that nobody really cares about.

With the win by Condit, at first glance, that fight appears to be out of the question. But nothing is for sure.

While people can argue over who should have won, there is no question what fight the public wanted, which was a Condit vs. Diaz rematch, even though the first fight was not all that exciting. At least our polls showed 68% thinking there should be a rematch. It was sensing public opinion that led to it happening. On Saturday, after the fight, when it was suggested to Dana White about a rematch, he dismissed the idea, and said it was crazy. White said he felt Condit won 48-47. When I heard the question, I thought the same thing. Condit won clean. It wasn't pretty. It wasn't that entertaining. But he won the fight and earned his title shot. Diaz didn't get killed, but in no way does he deserve a second chance to do what he couldn't do the first time.

However, as it became clear that not everyone felt that Condit had won, you could sense there was interest in a second fight, which is important since UFC has far more shows than they have main events that there is significant interest in. At first, Condit claimed he wanted to fight once before GSP is healthy, while Diaz said if he won, he would wait for GSP. But after the win, Condit said he'd wait for GSP while Diaz claimed he was retired.

Dana White evidently saw public opinion and figured the best thing in the big picture was a rematch, although Malki Kawa, Condit's agent, once again said they had no interest in such a match. They said that in everyone's opinion who mattered (the judges who scored the fight, and White, who can if he disagrees with decisions do things to override them like book the loser like he won, or give the loser that he thinks won a winning bonus and treat him like he won) that Condit had won the fight. Plus, Condit had already been jacked around due to things that in no way were his fault.

He was supposed to face GSP on 10/29, a fight that fell apart when GSP first got hurt. Then he was promised GSP when healthy. Then the fight was pulled because Diaz, beating B.J. Penn on 10/29 while Condit sat the show out waiting for his guaranteed title shot, talked his way into the fight by insulting GSP which caused GSP to demand Diaz. But then GSP got hurt again, so Condit and Diaz got their shot at the interim title, where the winner had a belt and thus would have to face GSP first.

Condit had leverage and evidently White wanted to make the fight badly enough to meet a price Condit felt was worth it to give up his guaranteed shot at GSP. Because this fight may cost him, it may have to be on PPV, even though having it on the 5/5 FOX show would at least guarantee that show does good ratings, something that the current lineup hardly does. But White and Condit were to meet on 2/11 to work out all the details.

From the UFC standpoint, if Diaz wins, then they get the GSP vs. Diaz fight, which may be the biggest non-boxing PPV of the year. If Condit wins, he'll have beaten Diaz twice. While some may feel he doesn't deserve the belt he's got or the shot to unify, a second win, unless it's controversial, has a good chance to quelling any controversy. If the fight is put on FOX, it's a bigger stage for both men, and sets the stage where the biggest number of viewers sees them and will in theory be interested in seeing the story to its conclusion, which is the GSP fight with the winner. Condit can erase the controversy, build up his name, in theory, put on a performance that will make people interested in him as an opponent for GSP, which the first win did not do. So it's not like it's a no-win situation past the money for him. But the reality is, had Diaz gotten the same close decision, I don't believe for a second there would be a rematch. It's just the reality of a sport where match-ups are decided based on what it is perceived the fans want to see, and that favors, often greatly, stars that fans are interested in. On the surface, it' s not fair, but in another fashion, it is, just fair in the reality that it is a star-driven business and being a star is a lot more than just wins and losses, and in the end, it's about promoters giving people what they want to see within reason. When the fight was over, I thought, as did Dana White, that a rematch was unreasonable. But the perception of public opinion led White down the other direction, and ultimately, reading the public is a huge part of being a successful promoter.

Four of the five rounds were exclusively standing. Condit outlanded Diaz 151-105 in significant strikes, with a 29-23 edge in the first round, Diaz had a 32-29 edge in the second, but Condit had the edge in the next three rounds 32-22, 36-11 and 25-17. The fifth round saw Condit clearly winning the stand-up, but Diaz got him down and got his back and was working for a choke and an armbar, but never really came close with either. A lot of Condit's offense came in the way of low kicks. Diaz did have a 62-55 edge in strikes to the head, but just as you can say Condit's low kicks were more like jabs as opposed to power shots, almost all of Diaz's punches were jabs as well, as in power shots, Condit had a 12-8 edge.

As far as the judging went, to me, the only solid rounds were three and four, which were both clearly for Condit. Rounds one, two and five could be reasonably scored in either direction. However, two judges, Patricia Morse Jarman and Cecil Peoples, who both scored it 49-46 for Condit, gave Diaz only the third round, one of the two he seemingly clearly lost. The third judge, Junichiro Kamijo, was the only one with a reasonable card, giving Diaz rounds two and five, which were the same two rounds as the Fightmetric scorecard gave Diaz. So the problem then became even if you were to defend the verdict based on the judges, you are left with a problem because two cards identically made no sense. And they both came from Nevada judges who have been under fire many times in the past. After the fight, even though White agreed with the verdict (he gave Condit rounds three through five), he still did a rant on how bad the judging in MMA has been, how it's hurting the sport and how the athletic commissions need to train both judges and referees, noting too many people are being robbed in decisions.

While it got all the heat, because it had the biggest ramifications, Diaz vs. Condit was hardly the most controversial score. There were a number of close fights on the show. Matthew Riddle won a split decision over Henry Martinez. Martinez clearly won the first round and Riddle the third. It came down to the second round, which could have gone either way. Martinez seemed to have the round won until Riddle landed with a crazy flurry at the end of the round. The Observer poll had Riddle with 67% thinking he won, 25% for Martinez and 8% had it a draw.

One of the craziest fights was Alex "Bruce Leroy" Caceres vs. Edwin Figueroa, where Figueroa won a split decision. In that fight, I had Caceres winning all three rounds. However, the fight was marred by two low blows. The first, on a kick, put Figueroa down hard and it looked like he couldn't continue, but he did. Referee Herb Dean issued what he said was a stern warning, as opposed to just a warning. In the second round, when Figueroa claimed another low blow, Dean ruled it legal. Then Caceres landed another hard kick to the groin and Figueroa went down like he was shot. Dean then gave Caceres two penalty points. While there is precedent for two point fouls, usually they are when there is no question of not only repeated fouls, but repeated fouls with clear intent. This appeared to be more accidental, even though devastating. Even though Caceres controlled almost all of three rounds, Figueroa did get a second round knockdown, but even so, Caceres was in control of the round and working for several submissions late that were more dangerous than the knockdown. But two judges gave Figueroa a round, and with the two point penalty, was enough for him to get a decision. Our poll had 71% for Caceres, 18% for Figueroa and 11% had it a draw. For our polls, that would be considered an egregiously bad decision.

Josh Koscheck got a split decision against Mike Pierce in a close fight, although I felt Pierce won the first two rounds. Pierce had 60% thinking he won, to 33% for Koscheck and 7% had it a draw. In Diaz vs. Condit, the poll had 51% for Diaz, 43% for Condit and 6% had it a draw.

There was good news from the business front. The show drew an announced 10,040 fans and $2.3 million, which would be just shy of a sellout at Mandalay Bay. Officials numbers should be available next week.

The first bit of good news is that the prelims on FX drew 1.4 million viewers. That's in the range of what the prelims on Spike used to do. The first time the prelims aired on FX, three weeks earlier for UFC 142, they only did 880,000 viewers.

Based on preliminary trends, the show looks to have done in the range of 400,000 buys, which is more than I would have predicted. The key seems to be the Prime Time show, with so much talk stemming in particular from episode two, but also episode three. Most of our indicators, from the web site poll, to the newsletter poll, had a higher volume than expected as well. Because the show had no undercard, and really nothing was even promoted hard but the main event, it's clear that Diaz's win over B.J. Penn and his antics involving GSP have made him a draw. The interest in this fight was because people smelled GSP vs. Diaz and saw this as step one in the story. The strongest markets per capita look to have been Edmonton, Las Vegas, Calgary, Albuquerque (Condit's home city), Vancouver, Los Angeles, Seattle, Dallas, Toronto, San Francisco (Diaz is from Northern California), Montreal (GSP's home market since he was to face the winner), Halifax (GSP strong market), Phoenix, San Antonio and San Diego. And once again, with the new time slot being back to the old time slot, we're seeing a stronger West Coast skew in the best markets.

The semifinal saw Fabricio Werdum return to UFC after three-and-a-half years and take apart Roy Nelson. Nelson trimmed down from his usual 260+ pounds of adipose tissue, to 246. But he proved two things. The first is, he's as tough as they come, because he took a beating and was messed up bad and never went down. The other is that Nelson can survive with top heavyweights, he can take a shot, and he can defend Jiu Jitsu with the best of them, but he's neither fast enough standing or a good enough wrestler to beat the top tier in the division. At 35, it doesn't matter how much weight he loses, he will never be fast enough. Werdum seemingly reinvented himself with a strong Muay Thai game of using the Thai plumb and landing devastating knees. While his strategy against Alistair Overeem of dropping to his back and baiting him down while being on his back cost him a decision and is a losing strategy unless you can finish, this was a performance that made you see him as a lot better fighter than most of his fights in the past.

Koscheck got very lucky to win a decision over a tough Pierce. Koscheck won by scoring takedowns in the second and third round, although he did no damage from the takedowns. He was less effective in his strategy of loading up and looking for the knockout punch that never came. Pierce had a 16-12 and 14-8 edge in significant strikes in the first two rounds, while Koscheck had a 13-11 edge in the third. I had Koscheck only winning the third.

Koscheck before the fight hinted at problems with the AKA camp he's been with for eight years, since before he even debuted on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter. After, he said he was through with the camp and would be training at his own gyms in Fresno. Then, in an interview with MMAWeekly.com, Koscheck said he had nothing bad to say about the team members, for DeWayne Zinkin and Bob Cook, who manage the team. He put all the blame on Javier Mendez, the team's head trainer. There were a lot of issues, which simmered beneath the surface as far as personality conflicts, which got worse when Jiu Jitsu trainer Dave Camarillo left AKA to open his own gym in Pleasanton. Camarillo and Mendez split, although the fighters close to Camarillo have continued to train Jiu Jitsu with him. Koscheck struggled in the fight that he was a heavy favorite in, although Pierce figured to give him some trouble under any circumstances. He blamed it on a bad training camp, said Mendez didn't work with him at all on this camp (true) and that now that the camp is over, he will never set foot inside the AKA gym in San Jose again.

1. Steven Thompson (6-0) beat Dan Stittgen (7-2) in 4:13. Thompson, who had a 57-0 record with 40 knockouts as a kickboxer, was making his UFC debut here. He used a karate style and was landing a lot of side kicks to the leg, body and head, followed by a spin kick. Thompson scored the knockout with a cool kick to the side of the head and Stittgen was out. Thompson got $77,000 for the win including the $65,000 best knockout bonus. Stittgen got$6,000 for the loss.

2. Rafael Natal (14-3-1) won a unanimous decision over Michael Kuiper (11-1) by winning the first and third rounds. Natal nearly got an armbar in the first round. In round three, Kuiper knocked him down and nearly finished Natal with punches on the ground. Natal came back with a big slam and nearly finished Kuiper late in the round. Natal got $20,000 for the win and Kuiper got $6,000 for the loss.

3. Matthew Riddle (6-3) beat Henry Martinez (8-2) on a split decision on scores of 29-28, 28-29 and 29-28. Martinez is a 155 pounder who moved up to welterweight when he got the call at the last minute, which was his opening to get in. He kept landing solid punches through being quicker and more accurate in the first round, even though the was giving up a lot of size. He continued to land almost the same combination during much of the second round. Riddle came back with body kicks, but Martinez was winning the round until both started exchanging and Riddle just went crazy with a flurry as the round ended, which ended up winning him the fight. In the third round, Martinez was landing a lot, but Riddle stayed with him. Riddle won the round after getting two takedowns. After the second, he landed big punches to the head and body and was giving Martinez a beating late, landing tons of punches, almost to the point where you could argue a 10-8 third although none of the judges scored it as such. I wouldn't have either, but it was close. Riddle got $30,000 for the win and Martinez got $6,000 for the loss.

4. Matt Brown (15-11) beat Chris Cope (5-4) via knockout at 1:19 of the second round. Brown is known as The Immortal Matt Brown, but I don't know if that has to do with Hulk Hogan. However, Chris Cope is the guy from Tough Enough a few seasons back who constantly says "Whoo" all day long, and admits that came from a childhood of idolizing Ric Flair. Brown won the first round, landing more, including several hard knees, as well as getting two takedowns. In the second round, Brown landed a combo, and finished him with a right to the ear, a left to the jaw, a big punch to the back of the head and a few punches on the ground. It was the left to the jaw that was the one that really did Cope in. Good fight. Brown got $30,000 for the win and Cope got $8,000 for the loss.

5. Edwin Figueroa (9-1) beat Alex Caceres (6-5) on scores of 28-27, 27-28 and 28-27. Caceres dominated, but lost due to the two point penalty ref Herb Dean called in the second round. But overall, it was a strong performance by Caceres and an exciting fight. Caceres knocked Figueroa down to a knee with a left before the first kick to the groin. When the fight resumed, Caceres continued taking Figueroa apart, including a hard kick to the head. Figueroa landed a head kick and pounded Caceres on the ground and went for a guillotine. As Caceres got up, Figueroa was landing punches. Caceres got a takedown and worked for a choke. Figueroa got out the back door. Caceres got behind him standing, then jumped on his back and started working for a choke. Caceres got the body triangle, got mount and Figueroa's back a few times and was working for a choke again when the round ended. Caceres opened the second round landing two kicks to the face. They traded bombs before Caceres landed a body kick and a head kick. Then he landed a kick to the jaw. Figueroa momentarily dropped Caceres with a punch, but he got right back up. Then came another kick to the groin where Dean took away the two points. Caceres landed a lot of punches when time resumed. He once again got Figueroa's back, working for a choke and clamping on the body triangle. He also tried for an armbar and triangle but Figueroa got out of trouble. Figueroa opened the third with low kicks and body punches. Caceres landed a spinning back kick to the body. Caceres landed more kicks and then got behind Figueroa and jumped on his back, grabbing a body triangle. Good finish as Figueroa reversed to top position and landed some punches while Caceres tried for a triangle and Figueroa grabbed his foot almost like doing a spinning toe hold. Caceres got his back again as time ran out. Figueroa got $16,000 for the win and Caceres got$8,000 for the loss.

6. Dustin Poirier (12-1) beat Max Holloway (4-1) in 3:23. Poirier looks to be the top contender now for Jose Aldo Jr., but has said he doesn't think he's quite ready for a shot yet. Poirier slammed Holloway, got a mount and landed punches on the ground. He got a triangle, used it to get a mount and from that position also grabbed an armbar from the top that looked like a Lucha dual submission move. Poirier got $89,000 for the win including the best submission bonus while Holloway got $8,000 for the loss.

7. Ed Herman (20-7) beat Clifford Starks (8-1) via submission with a choke at 1:43 of the second round. First round was close. Starks was a Division I wrestler while Herman is an experienced veteran. But it was Starks who was getting the better of the standup in the first round. Starks landed a lot and Herman was bleeding from the left ear. Starks continued to land solid punches until Herman got a late takedown, but Starks reversed and landed an elbow from the top as time expired. Starks opened the second round landing two shots, but Herman used a leg trip from the clinch, and landed in side control. Herman then got Starks' back and started working for a choke and eventually got it. Herman got $62,000 for the win and Starks got $8,000 for the loss.

8. Renan Barao (30-1, 1 no contest) beat Scott Jorgensen (13-5) via straight 30-27 decision. This fight looked exciting on paper, but the story of the fight is Barao, who was much bigger, used his reach and speed to win the stand-up all three rounds. He's also got awesome takedown defense. Barao is not as explosive as Jose Aldo Jr., but he has that same balance and good striking. This win should put Barao as the next contender for the Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber winner. He kept landing kicks, as well as a left jab to the chin. Jorgensen, a former Pac-10 champion wrestler, got inside and picked Barao up but still couldn't take him down. Jorgensen landed some, but couldn't get Barao down. Barao continued to land including a spin kick to the face late. Second round saw Jorgensen move in for a takedown and couldn't come close to getting it. Barao landed a lot of punches including a right that snapped Jorgensen's head back. Barao kept landing while Jorgensen couldn't get him down. A Jorgensen takedown attempt failed and Jorgensen ended up on his back. Jorgensen was able to get off his back, but he ended up back on his feet, and he kept getting hit from there. Barao landed punches to the head and different kicks as the round ended. Third round was more of the same. Great spin kick to the head by Barao in the third round. He kept landing. Jorgensen was competitive but just coming up short throughout. Barao got $22,000 for the win and Jorgensen go $20,500 for the loss.

9. Josh Koscheck (19-5) beat Mike Pierce (13-5) via split decision on scores of 28-29, 29-28 and 29-28. Boring fight. The idea here was if Koscheck could score an impressive win, he could have faced the Condit vs. Diaz winner. But the win wasn't impressive, so even if there was no rematch, I don't think Koscheck would have gotten the shot. First round was a lot of clinching as well as punches from both. Pierce's shots landed harder in the first round. Second round was slow and crowd was booing a lot. Pierce was landing more and was trying, but not succeeding, in getting a takedown. He seemed to be the one in better shape. Pierce was bleeding from the right side of his head from an accidental head-butt. Koscheck got a takedown but Pierce got right up and took no damage. I can't see that takedown outweighing that Pierce was landing better the entire round, but on two cards, it did. Third round opened with Pierce getting a takedown, but Koscheck was right up taking no damage. More loud booing. Koscheck landed a knee, an elbow, and punches. Pierce came back and the standup was pretty close in this round. Koscheck tried for a takedown but Pierce stopped him. Koscheck poked Pierce in the eyes, and this came after Herb Dean was warning Koscheck about using his left and pawing with an open hand, because of the potential for an eye poke. Dean wasn't happy about the eye poke after the warning, but he didn't call a foul, and instead told Koscheck that this was his final warning. Pierce landed a few punches but Koscheck got the takedown and then got Pierce's back. Pierce landed a spinning elbow late. Close round but Koscheck did more when he was on top. The crowd booed Koscheck like crazy because they thought Pierce won, plus they like booing him. He flipped them off and said that "I'm the most hated guy in MMA, deal with it." That only made them boo him even more. He had this smile on his face like he knew this was a fight he got very lucky with how the judges called it. Koscheck got $146,000 for the win and Piece got $20,000 for the loss.

10. Fabricio Werdum (15-5-1) beat Roy Nelson (17-7) via straight 30-27 scores. Werdum was out fast, landed a few punches and a body kick, then got Nelson's back on the ground. He was working from a choke but Nelson was up and out of trouble. Werdum kept landing knees from the Thai clinch over and over. Nelson was bleeding from the nose. Nelson got his shots in but Werdum got a lot more. After more knees, ref Josh Rosenthal stopped it and brought Nelson to the doctor to check him. The doctor allowed Nelson to continue. Nelson landed a punch that put Werdum down, but it was his trick of pretending to be knocked down to bait his opponent into his guard. Nelson did go down and Werdum immediately went for the armbar, but Nelson escaped and landed a punch. Crowd was going crazy, as they thought Nelson, the big favorite, had gotten battered but knocked Werdum down. In the second round, Werdum knocked Nelson down with a knee. Nelson was going for the home run punch but couldn't land it. Nelson was getting tired and that was making the speed difference worse. Werdum landed a lot of knees. He dominated the round, but Nelson landed one big punch, but Werdum moved out of trouble. In the third round, Werdum tried a takedown but Nelson blocked. Werdum kept landing in the third and Nelson's face was massacred. But he stayed up. Werdum landed a head kick and more punches as the fight ended. Werdum got $165,000 for the win, including the best fight bonus. Nelson got $85,000 for the loss.

11. Carlos Condit (28-5) beat Nick Diaz (27-8, 1 no contest) to win the interim welterweight title on scores of 49-46, 48-47 and 49-46. When the fight started, both went to the center and pressed their heads against the other until officials jumped in. GSP was at ringside. Condit with low kicks and a knee. Diaz landed a few punches. Hard kick by Condit who then danced away. Loud Diaz chants. Diaz was moving forward and not landing. Condit with more low kicks, and continued to land them until the end of the round. Diaz landed several punches late and the round was close. Condit landed a spinning back fist. Diaz started taunting him and slapped Condit in the face. But Condit didn't break from the game plan and kept landing low kicks, and punches and then backing up. Diaz was landing in this round. Condit landed a body shot and Diaz started making fun of him. Diaz landed a ton of body shots while Condit back with head shots. Diaz moved in but Condit was the one landing. Another close round. Crowd way behind Diaz going into the third. Both landed, with Diaz landing a head kick. Condit came on strong later in the round and hurt Diaz with a right. Condit landed strong late in the round. Condit in the fourth round would land some kicks and move. Diaz landed some body kicks, and Condit back with a hook kick to the body. Condit hit a front kick to the head. Finally, Diaz went for a takedown but couldn't get it, and Condit landed a combination. Condit would dance away, land combinations, and then move away. Condit landed side kicks to start the fifth round. Diaz with a body kick and a low kick. Condit hurt Diaz with a low kick and followed with a punch and a head kick, and then another punch. Condit kept landing but Diaz got behind him and took him down. Diaz got a body triangle and worked for a choke, but Condit escaped. Diaz tried an armbar but Condit escaped and was on top of Diaz when the time expired. Condit praised Diaz saying he's a warrior and he had nothing but respect for him. He said he felt his endurance was a big part of his game, and he went five rounds, moved more than Diaz, and didn't get tired. Diaz said he would ever accept this as a loss, said he had lost fights in the past but does not accept he lost this one. He said he was moving forward the whole fight, got the only takedown, said Condit was a great guy and that he was done with MMA, saying UFC pays him way too much money but he doesn't need this shit, and Condit ran from him the entire fight. Diaz said he landed harder shots, and Condit' leg kicks were all baby kicks and didn't hurt. He said he just doesn't want to play this game anymore. Condit got $110,000 for the win plus he'll likely get a big bonus based on PPV. Diaz got $200,000 plus his PPV bonus that should get him into very high six figures.
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This week was 20 years (February 7, 1991) since the death of Buzz Sawyer, who died of a drug overdose at the age of 32. He was someone who was a superstar in his early 20s and a fantastic athletic worker, but he got caught up in drugs in a bad way and his reckless style led to a ton of early injuries that he would work through and he was past his prime very young. Sawyer ripped off Undertaker of money in Texas when Undertaker paid him several thousand to train him and then Sawyer skipped town. Sawyer wound up in Nothern California where he opened a wrestling school, and trained Ken Shamrock.
One of Matt Hardy's many cases against him, this one for reckless driving, was continued until 4/9. Another, involving possession of illegal drugs and violation of a court order was continued until 3/1.
Two sons of the late Umaga (Eddie Fatu), E.J. Fatu and Arthur Fatu (Arthur is the English language version of the name Afa), are playing football at Blinn Junior College in Brenham, TX. Arthur, an offensive lineman, was originally at Arkansas Tech. E.J. is a running back.
Jimmy Snuka, 68, is recovering from right ankle replacement surgery. They've told him no wrestling for at least six more months.
Jon Jones vs. Rashad Evans for the light heavyweight title was announced as official for 4/21 in Atlanta. That was the idea going in provided Evans wasn't injured to where he couldn't make the date. Over the weekend they got the word Evans was fine with the date.
UFC is taking a major risk with the announcement that Jim Miller vs. Nate Diaz will be the main event of the 5/5 third special on FOX from East Rutherford, NJ. It's not just that is going to be a difficult main event for the Izod Center, Miller being from New Jersey or not, but it's one thing to put on a show like the last one with three established major names who have headlined PPVs in Rashad Evans, Michael Bisping and Chael Sonnen, and another to put two guys who have never been in that position. It'll be a five-round fight and not doubt they'll announce the winner will get a shot at the lightweight title. On paper, it's a great action fight, but great action fights aren't what draws ratings or sells tickets, name value is. The last show did good enough, but showed a decline from the first show. The last time Miller headlined which was two weeks ago, they did an 0.90 rating on FX. Now that isn't to say he'll do an 0.90 on FOX. Nate Diaz is a name who can headline a fight night as he and Gray Maynard did a 1.2, which was slightly below average at the time. There was talk of Cain Velasquez vs. Frank Mir at around that time but Velasquez wasn't going to be ready, and even if he was, they may have needed that fight for PPV, which takes priority, although I like the idea of Velasquez on top for a Cinco de Mayo promotion and Mir is great at promoting the fight. They also announced Lavar Johnson vs. Pat Barry on the show, which is a heavyweight slugfest which is a good fight to open the show when you've got two strong main events. Both are not even contending heavyweights and are just entertaining guys on the show, so it's not even a showcase for a future star on the big platform as much as just trying to get a good fight. The positive is after two shows that didn't deliver the action, these two fights have a high percentage chance of doing that. But Elite XC put on shows on CBS that could and did deliver action that did poorly in the ratings. The UFC brand name means something as far as a baseline level, but we've seen example after example that just having a UFC live show doesn't guarantee that big of a rating, because Miller vs. Diaz isn't really much different than Miller vs. Guillard and the latter didn't do well. It may be that with so many shows and a finite number of stars, there was just no alternative. I wouldn't be happy going onto the network and risking a sub-2 rating and having the TV industry come to the conclusion UFC isn't a rising tide, and that as a prime time sport it's a flash in the pan because a ratings pattern of 3.1 to 2.6 to 1.8 (just throwing a number out, not a prediction this early but I don't see this coming close to a 2.6) will lead to that conclusion. There may be a feeling that since Floyd Mayweather is fighting Miguel Cotto that a lot of people will stay home or be in groups watching fights together and they can be the "prelims" before the main event, but I think that only works when your show is also getting a ton of pub and when the shows are on the same station (obviously Gilbert Melendez vs. Jorge Masvidal in ratings benefitted greatly from coming right after the Andre Ward fight but they were on the same station and marketed together as a package). And I don't see the ESPN's and mainstream sports publications of the world devoting any interest in Miller vs. Diaz on the week of a Mayweather fight. If anything, the stories coming out could be how UFC was a flash in the pan and how that night once again boxing proved to be the premiere combat sport. That's another reason why it would be beneficial to UFC, if they can pull it off cost-effective or are willing to spent huge money on a television fight, to put Nick Diaz vs. Carlos Condit here. At least that greatly lowers, if not completely alleviates the risk of a bad rating. Karlos Vemola vs. Mike Massenzio, John Hathaway vs. Pascal Krause, Danny Castillo vs. John Cholish s and Louis Gaudinot (the green-haired guy from Ultimate Fighter) vs. debuting John Lineker (a Brazilian who went 7-0 in 2011 and has a 13-fight winning streak in the new flyweight division) are also on the show likely as Fuel prelims.
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6/16 is still earmarked for the next show in Brazil. The hold-up on doing it at the soccer stadium in Sao Paulo is there is a local noise ordinance that doesn't allow shows in that stadium to end past a certain time. The problem is, because the big money is U.S. PPV, and they aren't moving the start time, the show would probably end between 2 and 3 a.m.

Anderson Silva has verbally agreed to face Chael Sonnen on the Brazil show.
Jose Also Jr.'s trainer, Andre Pedernairis, sent a text to Ed Soares this past week letting him know that he has been relieved of his managerial duties.
Dana White said this week that B.J. Penn had been in contact with him but said he was just chilling and didn't ask for a fight or make a commitment as to whether he would or wouldn't fight again. Penn announced his retirement after his 10/29 loss to Nick Diaz. We had heard from those close to Penn months ago that Penn was motivated and would be coming back. If you remember back when Penn did those anti-Diaz posts that came out of nowhere and seemed out of character, that was about the time Penn decided he wanted to fight again. He really needs to stay as a lightweight as he's a 165 pound guy fighting guys 190 when he fights at welterweight. There was a time when his talent was so far ahead of the pack that he could do that and be successful, and even with Jon Fitch he showed he could be competitive, but it's too much to give up. The problem is he can't match the speed and endurance of Frankie Edgar, the current lightweight champion, who beat him twice. Most of the 145 pounders are bigger guys than Penn, but that doesn't mean Penn should go there because he may not be able to handle the cut and be as effective.
Team AKA is racked with injuries. Cain Velasquez is looking at being ready in late May or early June. Frank Mir was the guy they wanted him to face at last report. There is talk about that on the 5/26 show in Las Vegas but right now there is no official date for the match, and the fight itself isn't official but it's a direction being looked at. Daniel Cormier has been just starting to be able to punch with his right hand, but it is still not fully healed and won't be ready probably until May for his Strikeforce heavyweight Grand Prix final match with Josh Barnett. Luke Rockhold suffered a broken hand in beating Keith Jardine on the last Strikeforce show on 1/7, and is looking at being back around June. With King Mo Lawal likely suspended for one year due to the steroid test positive, he got ACL replacement surgery recently and there were complications in surgery and he's had five different operations in the last two weeks. It was really bad. He was told that his last infection was so bad that if he had waited two more days before going in, it could have been life threatening, and he was still hospitalized as of this week. Mike Swick is also out with knee surgery. Swick and Roger Huerta are working together opening up a gym in a tourist area in Thailand.
Chandler Jones, a 6-5, 247 pound defensive end, is ranked as the second best defensive end in the draft by ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay, and listed as the No. 23 prospect overall. Jones is the younger brother of Jon Jones.
Jacob Volkmann was taken off administrative leave by White Bear Lake (MN) High School and allowed to go back as a wrestling coach and was told no more calling people idiots in the media. Volkmann has been suspended twice by the school for doing anti-Barack Obama promos in the ring after UFC wins.
War Machine (formerly Jon Koppenhaver), who was supposed to start in Bellator this season, was sent back to jail for another year according to a post he made on twitter. He was scheduled to debut on 3/30 in Uncasville, CT as part of welterweight tournament where the winner will face Ben Askren. The first round tournament matches are Karl Amoussou vs. Chris Lozano (Amoussou replacing Machine), Ben Saunders vs. Raul Amaya, Brian Foster vs. David Rickels and Bryan Baker vs. Carlos Pereira.
The New York Times ran a story on Rulon Gardner's attempt at a comeback. As noted before, within amateur wrestling, even though Gardner got terribly out of shape, his comeback at 40 has been taken seriously while Kurt Angle's at 43 is not. Gardner, who retired in 2004 from amateur wrestling, got as heavy as 474 pounds while going through depression but appeared on "The Biggest Loser" and got down to 289 pounds when he quit the show, saying he was tired of being away from his wife. But he's now gained weight back and is 315 (although some of the coaches claim he's really 335), and has to make 264.5 to compete at the Olympic trials, where he's got a very formidable opponent in Dremiel Byers, who was second in the world championships as recently as 2009. One of the reasons Gardner is taken seriously is he's training with the Olympic team and Olympic coaches, and not away from the action like angle. Steve Fraser, one of the coaches, said even as heavy as he is, Gardner still has the cardio that made him famous and people joke that he has three lungs. Even in shape, Gardner looked like a blob but never got tired. Fraser also said Gardner might be the hardest working guy on the team. His sister, a cardiologist, in the story said she's worried about him because he has hypertension and sleep apnea.
Dwayne Johnson signed for a lead role in "Pain and Gain," a movie where Johnson will be likely be the head of a group of bodybuilders attempting to do a murder. Michael Bay will be producing.
As a trivia note, Matt Farmer compiled a list of the ten biggest drawing house show opponents for Hulk Hogan while he was in the WWF based on the number of shows that drew in excess of 10,000 fans. They were, in order, Randy Savage with 63, Paul Orndorff with 54 (I think most would have figured they would be 1-2), Big Bossman (42), Kamala (28), John Studd (20), One Man Gang (17), Ric Flair (15), Earthquake(14), Sgt. Slaughter (13) and Mr. Perfect (13). Some of that comes from who had runs at what time, and how hot business was at the time. 1985-87 in particular working on top with Hogan was almost, not quite, like being on top with WWF 1999-2000 when everything drew big. After Bossman, Hogan never drew consistently at that level although he was still far and away the biggest draw in U.S. wrestling and in particular on PPV until the rise of Austin and Goldberg in 1998. Savage and Orndorff were easily his two biggest drawing opponents. Piper would have been right there with both except Piper would never do the job for Hogan, so they did some matches here and there but never did that several month long program and series. Kamala and Gang were good monsters but they both came at the right time. Flair came past Hogan's drawing peak, as did Slaughter and Earthquake. Flair, whose Hogan program at house shows was from September 1991 to the end of the year (I believe it was canceled in early January 1992 when it had run its course and turned into a tag program of Hogan & Piper vs. Sid Vicious & Flair where the dynamic picked back up) would have been his last big one, as he never did a full house show schedule after Mania 1992. It should be noted these numbers are for singles matches only, and not for tags. Earthquake, which came off a major injury angle in 1990 and when Ultimate Warrior was champion, late in that year, was the only Hogan program where he wasn't defending the title that was in the top ten.
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The saga of Nick Diaz continued this week.

Hours after Carlos Condit had agreed to terms to face Diaz in a rematch for both the interim welterweight title and be the next opponent of Georges St. Pierre when he makes his expected November return, the Nevada State Athletic Commission received the results of Diaz's drug test taken a few hours after his loss to Carlos Condit on the 2/4 show in Las Vegas. The test came back positive for marijuana.

The idea that Diaz smoked pot is hardly a revelation, as marijuana usage is certainly not uncommon among MMA fighters. However, it is tested for, and very few fail the test, and no major name has ever failed twice, let alone completely screwed up their careers over it. Then again, very few fighters repeatedly miss plane flights arranged by UFC, and even fewer no-show press conferences when they are main event fighters. In fact, marijuana use had in the past played the key role in Diaz being pulled from two different fights in San Jose during the Strikeforce era, as well as being stripped of what was a spectacular victory in one of the greatest MMA fights in history.

And now, it could cost him a year out of action while he is still in his fighting prime, and even more important financially, has just entered his drawing power prime. All over smoking a few joints, he lost a shot at the title, and the potential of millions of dollars in income, and the chance to headline what would have been one of the biggest non-boxing PPV events in history.

Nevada State athletic commission executive director Keith Kizer confirmed receiving the test result late on 2/7 for a test Diaz had taken at the Mandalay Bay Events Center a few hours after his controversial decision loss to Carlos Condit and after missing yet another press conference after the fight which he was in the main event of. It was the second time Diaz had tested positive for marijuana in Nevada, the first being in 2007 after what had been the biggest win of his career, where he had submitted Takanori Gomi with a gogoplata on a Pride show, the only time the move has been used on a major U.S. show that didn't involve The Undertaker. It was hardly the second time marijuana had played a part in derailing Diaz's career.

Diaz's levels of THC have not been released at press time. In standard sports testing, a level of 15 is considered a positive, because anything lower would be considered trace amounts. Nevada will not take action against anyone with a reading under a 50, so that would be the minimum this would be. So the idea that he had smoked pot a few weeks ago and a trace amount lingered in his system and got him busted was not the case. In the Gomi fight, his level was 175, indicating recent usage. Diaz does have a medical marijuana card in California, so he is legally allowed to use the drug. But there are a boatload of drugs you can legally use, including things you can buy over the counter, that are not allowed in sports competition. Debates on whether marijuana is a performance enhancer, a performance detractor, or of no significance either way miss the point that in most sports, including all Olympic sports, it is banned. Whether it should be banned is another debate, but it is part of the rules that all fighters have to live by until it is changed.

Diaz was given 20 days to submit in writing a response to the complaint. What is likely to happen is that at the 2/22 Nevada commission meeting, Diaz would be put on a temporary suspension. At a subsequent commission meeting, he would get a hearing. At that time, likely in April or May, the commission could impose some combination of fine and/or suspension, or it could decide against taking any action.

There have been two athletes in Nevada with who have failed twice for marijuana, both boxers. One did so in 2001 and 2002. The other, Matt Vanda, had failed a test in New Jersey before just recently failing his second test for a fight on 12/16 in Las Vegas. In both cases, they were suspended for one year. While that would be the likely suspension in this case, there could be mitigating circumstances. While that type of suspension sounds harsh, as in most pro sports, marijuana is not going to put you out for a year. But when Joe Warren failed twice for marijuana as a competition wrestler, his suspension from the sport of wrestling was for two years, causing him to miss the 2008 Olympics, where he was a medal favorite, and even though he's attempting a comeback at 35, it may have been the death sentence to his Olympic dreams.

Condit at first believed he had won convincingly, but sensed, as did Dana White, that the public wasn't as convinced wanted to see a rematch, and that it would do even bigger business than the first fight. The first fight did significantly better than most predicted it would do. Cable estimates we got at press time indicated 375,000 buys and one person who had access to legitimate numbers said it did 410,000 buys, noting a whopping 46% increase over Diaz's numbers with B.J. Penn, who is a far bigger name than Condit. This shows how much Diaz's star power based on the Prime Time specials and a key underrated element, the promotional work of Georges St. Pierre, has grown in just a few months. It would not be an exaggeration to say Diaz is the first person since Brock Lesnar that has emerged in UFC as a legitimate big-time numbers mover without ever having held a UFC championship belt, and he's a bigger star than four of the company's eight current champions, including interim champion Condit. With Diaz out of the picture, Condit's next likely opponent would be the winner of the 2/15 Jake Ellenberger vs. Diego Sanchez fight, which Ellenberger is a heavy favorite. However, Condit vs. Ellenberger would be an extremely difficult sell as a PPV main event.

The reality is that exactly what makes Diaz such a compelling character, probably what motivates him to train the way he does, is the same living car wreck that you can't turn away that causes him to sabotage his career time after time.

In this case, he was getting a second chance to do what he couldn't do a first time, and a second shot of getting a win that would lead to getting St. Pierre, a fight that both men claim they badly want. St. Pierre fully understood that Matt Serra and Josh Koscheck were promoting a fight when they would insult him, or play practical jokes on him on television, but after both fights thanked both fighters for making the promotion of the fight interesting. That is not the case with Diaz. St. Pierre was insulted by the insinuation he was faking an injury to avoid him given that the fake injury caused him to undergo reconstructive knee surgery, and responded with what was said to be an amazing 50 minute interview that was edited down on the UFC Prime Time special on FX that aired on 1/27. After Diaz lost, St. Pierre had asked UFC if he could face Diaz, going so far as to offer to vacate his title in order to get a match with Diaz if it was deemed they couldn't under the circumstances give Diaz a championship fight.

The test failure would seemingly mean St. Pierre isn't fighting Diaz for a long time, likely until 2013. And there becomes the question as to whether UFC would force Diaz to get a meaningful win first before getting a shot at St. Pierre, and the nature of the top welterweight contenders is that on a given night, Diaz would be far from a lock to beat any of them. Plus, there would be an issue of ring rust from taking an extensive layoff while at this stage of his career.

While the idea of firing someone for marijuana usage on the surface seems ludicrous, it isn't so ludicrous given Diaz's extensive track record. He is a constant problem waiting to surface. You don't know what the problem will be, only that it is inevitable there will be something, usually something you aren't prepared for. And the stakes are higher than ever, because it's no longer a mid-card fight on a Strikeforce show that falls apart a week before the show, but it would be a major PPV fight, and if he wins the championship, something even bigger than that.

Lorenzo Fertitta has already said they will abide by the commission decision, however it goes, but that when the suspension is up, they will bring him back. UFC has sent mixed signals regarding testing. Nate Marquardt was fired over a testosterone test failure that caused to be pulled from a show that he was in the main event of. Anthony Johnson was fired over missing weight three times. Miguel Torres was fired for having no common sense on twitter (although hired back shortly after). Renato Sobral was fired for not releasing a choke because he was mad at his opponent. Paul Daley was fired for throwing a sucker punch at Josh Koscheck when he couldn't get up from the ground after three rounds in their fight and deliver any meaningful punches. Quinton Jackson wasn't fired for a series of escapades including a police chase that made national headlines.

Diaz had come within a hair of being fired back in September when he missed two press conferences for a fight with St. Pierre. He was removed from the fight and White indicated the odds were that he would be fired. But White instead put him back on the card, and scheduled him against B.J. Penn, and moved Condit up to face St. Pierre. Diaz didn't want the fight, spent the weekend saying he wasn't going to take the fight, which would have surely resulted in him being fired since White had already announced it, but was finally talked into it. St. Pierre vs. Condit ended up not taking place when St. Pierre suffered his first knee injury, leaving Diaz vs. Penn as the main event, which Diaz won a convincing decision in. Condit was then promised a shot at St. Pierre on 2/4, but when Diaz, after beating Penn, claimed St. Pierre was faking his injury, St. Pierre asked if he could face Diaz. But in training for the fight, St. Pierre tore his ACL, requiring reconstructive surgery and being out most of this year, it left Diaz vs. Condit for the interim title. If they were to make a match with St. Pierre, there will be the constant worry about something going wrong with him, and dealing with his behavior. Even as late as the week of the Condit fight, Diaz missed three different flights into Las Vegas.

Just some of the Diaz track record:

*February 4, 2006: While fighting for UFC, after losing via decision to Joe Riggs in Las Vegas, he was banged up and taken to the hospital. He saw Riggs at the hospital and attacked him. The two got into a pull-apart brawl. Nevada considered disciplinary action on both, although from all accounts it was Diaz who started the fight. But they let it slide.

*February 24, 2007: Diaz submits Takanori Gomi with a gogoplata, but tested positive for marijuana at a ridiculously high level. The result of the fight was overturned and ruled a no contest. He was fined $3,000 and suspended for six months.

*March 2008: Shortly before a fight in San Jose against Jae Suk Lim, the California State Athletic Commission ruled that Diaz couldn't fight on the show because on a form needed to be filled out to get a license in California, when asked what drugs you are currently using, Diaz put in marijuana. Because marijuana was on the banned list of drugs that almost all athletic commissions adhere to, which is the World Anti-Doping Association list, by admitting he was using it prior to the fight, commission executive director Armando Garcia ruled against allowing him to fight.

*June 14, 2008: While fighting with Elite XC, the company created a 160 pound weight division specifically for Diaz, although as it turned out, in the title fight, Diaz lost via blood stoppage to K.J. Noons. The feeling was that he couldn't quite make 155 and be healthy, but he had lost fights to stronger men at 170. So while fighting in the weight division specifically created for him, he missed weight by nine pounds for a fight in Honolulu with Muhsin Corbbrey. He claimed it was due to being in the ocean, and swallowing salt water. With his huge size edge, he beat Corbbrey to become No. 1 contender to Diaz. After Noons retained his title in the main event with a quick knockout of Yves Edwards, the two were put in the cage together for a verbal confrontation. It got ugly, leading to a wild brawl involving Noons and father Karl (a former kickboxer who had headlined in Hawaii during his heyday and was considered something of a local hero) and the Diaz brothers. Karl went after Nick, and Nate threw a bottle at Karl, and all hell broke loose. It ended up being incredibly heated, ending with the Diaz brothers leaving the cage flipping off the Noons family and the Hawaii fans. The next day, there was almost another altercation between the Diaz brothers and father and son Noons in front of the hotel.

*April 9, 2009: In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Diaz bragged about his ability to beat state athletic commission drugs tests, noting he loved to get loaded and wasn't going to get caught. "I can pass a drug test with herbal cleansers. I drink ten pounds of water and sweat out ten pounds of water every day. I'll be fine."

*April 11, 2009: Even though by this point in his career Diaz was fighting at 170 pounds, he agreed to a catch weight fight with Frank Shamrock at 179 pounds. A few days before the fight his camp went to Shamrock and said that Diaz wasn't going to be able to make 179, so they agreed to raise the limit to 181 pounds.

*August 2009: After bragging that he could beat any testing, Diaz's license expired three weeks before a scheduled match with Jay Hieron that was to create the first Strikeforce welterweight champion. He was informed that to get licensed, he would have to take a drug test. Cesar Gracie, his manager, told the commission that Diaz was in Florida training and wouldn't be able to take the test when asked, but agreed Diaz would come to a show in Sacramento eight days before the fight to get drug tested. Diaz was advertised as the special guest for the fight and was to corner a fighter. This came on the heels of Diaz missing both an appearance at a show and a seminar in Oklahoma. Diaz also no-showed the Sacramento show. Nobody from his camp told the commission he wasn't going to be there, but they were told he was in the mountains training. In an attempt to save the fight, Scott Coker struck a deal with the commission for Diaz to fly to Los Angeles, where his urine sample would be hand delivered to the WADA lab at UCLA. The commission noted that Diaz had already passed deadline, and there was a good chance, since Diaz agreed to take the test five days before the fight, that the results wouldn't be back before the fight, and if they weren't, he wouldn't be allowed to fight. The commission attempted to contact both Diaz and Gracie six times over the next three days to arrange for a time for him to take the test and to see if he was coming with the tickets Coker had purchased. Neither Diaz or Gracie ever got back to the commission. The day he was supposed to fly to Los Angeles, Coker, at a press conference, said Diaz had flown to Los Angeles to take his test. During the call, Coker was informed that nobody from the commission had heard from Diaz and he had never gotten on the plane. After this all went down, Gracie claimed that Diaz and Armando Garcia had made a secret deal that Diaz would only be tested on the day of fights. However, Garcia had resigned as commissioner. Given Garcia was extremely hardline on all drug issues, nobody in the commission believed the story and Garcia had never informed anyone on the commission of any deal with Diaz. By that time California had informed all fighters of the implementation of new regulations that they were subject to random drug testing. However, Diaz had allowed his license to expire, meaning he couldn't be tested out of competition. But it also meant to get a new license, he would likely have to be tested, particularly with his track record. The commission had already sent Gracie a letter noting that the California Supreme Court had already ruled that California's compassionate usage act, which did not legalize marijuana, but allowed doctors to prescribe it in the state, only meant that there would be no criminal prosecution and upheld that in companies with drug testing, if they test for marijuana, they can fire employees with a positive test even if they had a prescription for the drug. Diaz was also told by Garcia back in 2008 when he wasn't allowed to fight Lim, that his medical prescription for marijuana was no different than prescriptions for a number of medications that fighters are not allowed to used in competition. After Diaz failed to get on the plane to take his test, Ken Hershman of Showtime stated that after this being the second time they advertised and promoted Diaz that he had not been allowed to fight, that they felt they could not trust to promote him any longer. A few months later, not only did they allow him on a show, but main evented him and put him in a match to determine their first welterweight champion, where Diaz finished Dream champion Mariusz Zaromskis in the first round.

*April 24, 2010: After Diaz's training partner Jake Shields beat Dan Henderson on a live Strikeforce show on CBS, as Shields was doing his interview, Jason "Mayhem" Miller got into the cage and challenged Shields for his title. Gilbert Melendez shoved Miller and Diaz and others joined in the five-on-one brawl, which saw Diaz in particular land several shots on Miller. Diaz was one of five participants in the incident who were fined, and well as suspended for three months. The incident led to CBS canceling all future MMA events.

*May 2010: While in Japan for a fight that he won over Hayato Sakurai, Diaz was asked if, after all his issues, that marijuana has gotten in the way of his fighting career. He responded, "Actually, to the contrary, my fight career has gotten in the way of my marijuana smoking."

*September 6, 2011: Diaz no-showed a Toronto press conference with Georges St. Pierre to promote their planned October 29 fight in Las Vegas. It was the first of two days of promotional work for the fight. Diaz promised to be in Las Vegas the next day.

*September 7, 2011: After Cesar Gracie was told to make sure and watch over him and deliver him to Las Vegas, Diaz snuck out the door, missed several different flights and never showed up in Las Vegas. Dana White pulled him from the fight with St. Pierre. Diaz then complained that UFC was protecting St. Pierre. After indicating at first that they were going to let him go, White did an about face, and gave him one chance to keep his job, accepting a fight against B.J. Penn.

Diaz announced his retirement after the loss to Condit. He has not rescinded it, but at this point most expect he will fight again. After his test came back positive, Diaz claimed Condit never accepted the fight until he knew about the positive test. Those who were aware of the time line, including us, know it doesn't fit. White's dealings with Condit and releasing that Condit had agreed to give Diaz a rematch came hours before the UFC was informed of the failed drug test, which came in much earlier than usual. Both UFC and the Nevada State Athletic Commission didn't officially release that Diaz had failed until 2/9, almost two days later, long after rumors of such had surfaced.

Message board poster "Front Row Brian" McMahon, who broke the story the match was off on 2/10 after also breaking the story of the negotiations going on between White and Condit for the rematch, and later said it was due to Diaz failing a test for marijuana.

Gracie, in an interview with Ariel Helwani, said Diaz was surprised about testing positive, not because he hadn't used it, but because he claimed Diaz had taken all the steps to make sure the metabolites would have been out of his system by fight time.

"He was surprised he tested positive. He does the same ritual every fight for the last five year. He stops it in time and he cleanses his system, works out like crazy, drinks a lot of water and purges his system of it."

This has opened a debate as to whether marijuana is a performance enhancer, detractor, or should even be tested for in the first place. There are pain killing properties, but whether they would immediately lessen the blows of a punch to the face are questionable. And if they would, would the amount necessary also lead to slowing reflexes, detracting from performance? However, marijuana use is not uncommon in high-level Jiu Jitsu tournaments with the idea being it enables you to see things clearer and stay calm. Whether that is real or placebo, the bottom line is those claims would constitute performance enhancement and Jiu Jitsu is an important aspect of an MMA fight.

Nevertheless, that debate is not germane to this issue, as it involves rules that everyone has to play under. While drug usage and drug testing in MMA and all major pro sports is loaded with hypocrisy, in tested sports, part of the athlete's job is to pass their tests. Very few fail. It's also to make weight, and to get licensed, and if you are a main eventer, to promote the fight, which to his credit, whether by skill or dumb luck, Diaz does much better than most.

No UFC fighter has failed twice for marijuana, and the only fighters who have two positives for any drugs are Josh Barnett (actually three for steroids), Tim Sylvia (two for steroids) and Chris Leben (one for steroids and one for Oxycontin). But you can add to it three total suspensions (a number that is lucky on the low side, not the high side), three out of the ring brawls, one costing of a network TV contract, two times missing weight and at least four missed press conferences.

But he's lucky he's a star. Michael Bisping complained that he came closer beating Chael Sonnen than Diaz did to beating Carlos Condit, but he didn't get an immediate rematch (that has to do with the time frame when the champion was to fight as if GSP was ready this summer, Diaz wouldn't have either), and he's done far more for UFC than Diaz ever has. If the roles were reversed, Carlos Condit doesn't get a rematch, or for that matter, even get into the title picture. Few if any fighters with his track record are going to even be in UFC at this point. But as long as he is, if he can come back and win, nobody can keep him from getting a title but himself. He will get every fair opportunity to do so, and more than fair, because he's now in the money club, which means the people who pay the freight, the fans, want to see him in those matches and the promoters role is to give the people the matches they want to see unless they are forced based on somebody being champion and a contender being completely unjustified, that they can't. But while there are inherently going to be issues with people in the money club, whether it be financial, or wanting to limit how much media they would do, with Diaz, those issues will be deeper.

When he comes back, history tells us there won't be too much time before there is another major issue. What and when, nobody knows. But it will happen. And there is a saying, "Fool me once, shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me." So if it does, there are some people who you can't feel sorry for, as they took a calculated risk and no exactly what they are dealing with.
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Mike Bernardo, one of the biggest stars of the golden age of K-1 kickboxing, passed away on 2/14 in Cape Town, South Africa. At press time, there was no reported cause of death.

Bernardo was born July 28, 1969, in Cape Town. As a bald, muscular 6-foot-4, 240-pound knockout artist, he relied heavily on his boxing background combined with kickboxing experience to be one of Japan's biggest foreign stars during most of his 1995-2004 run. In the late 90s in particular, he was a major reason K-1 events were huge prime time must see shows that often drew in excess of 20 million viewers.

Bernardo, was a heavyweight pro boxer with a 5-1 record, three of which were first round knockouts, when he was brought to Japan just as K-1 was breaking through as a mainstream event. K-1 in those days, not unlike UFC, liked to promote itself as style vs. style, and Bernardo was billed as a boxer who debuted on March 3, 1995, during the first round of the 1995 K-1 World Grand Prix and immediately scored a third round knockout over K-1's biggest star, Andy Hug, a fighter who at the time was compared in popularity to Elvis Presley (who was still gigantic in Japan in the mid-90s) and as far as pure popularity was the most popular foreign sports entertainment performer of the modern era. This eliminated Hug before the Final eight show, but Jerome LeBanner knocked Hug off in the semifinals on that show. He came back to beat Hug on September 3, 1995, at the Yokohama Arena, but was knocked out by Peter Aerts in 40 seconds on December 9, 1995, in Nagoya.

Hug, Aerts, Bernardo, Ernest Hoost and Jerome LeBanner were the big four stars of K-1 during this growth period. Bernardo was in television commercials, most notably for Schick shaving cream and for Top Ramen Oat Noodles. His face was everywhere in Japan, as the Schick spokesperson, besides commercials, also on roadside billboards, and magazine ads. He was a quick, well conditioned heavyweight with a great right hook, although he didn't quite have the skill level as a boxer to be an international top star. In those days, the K-1 heavyweight scene was promoted as all-offense and little defense, so early knockouts were prevalent. It was an aggressive kill or be killed era that produced spectacular knockouts and explosive all-action short fights that appealed to a large mainstream fan base.

"As far as what he should be remembered for, he was the first guy in K-1 to bring professional boxing skills and began knocking everybody out with his hands," remembered Michael Schiavello, who broadcasted K-1 for the international market. "He was knocking out a lot of the legends, Peter Aerts, Stan Longinidis, Andy Hug, so people started to pay attention and all the other guys had to learn their hands. He helped to change the game and it made the boxing more prevalent, opened the doors for Mark Hunt, LeBanner, more prolific boxers than kickers. The man who really stepped it up was Hug. When Andy first started his career, he couldn't box, he can from Kyokushin karate. He was getting schooled early in his career. When Bernardo was exposing a lot of the flaws in these guys, Hug, being the smallest guy on the circuit, made himself into a champion beating Bernardo with a spinning back kick to the leg."

His biggest rival was Aerts. Although the two were friends outside the ring, Bernardo was promoted as very religious, wearing a cross on his shorts with a bible reference. Aerts would then come out for their matches with "666" on his trunks.

"The Japanese don't embrace people who don't have a good nature," said Schiavello. "Mike had such a good nature, clean cut, no skeletons in his closet, I never saw him deny a fan an autograph, beautiful voice. He was an educated man, not your stereotypical pug. He was very fluent in almost every topic. The Japanese really embraced him. He tried to learn as much Japanese as he could."

While K-1 actually got more popular a few years later due to the freak show appeal of Bob Sapp, by which point Bernardo was no longer considered top tier, most remember the period of the big five as the highlight era, where the skill and personality of the big five grew ratings to where big shows were among the highest rated shows on Japanese television.

Bernardo was also a popular character in the Fire Pro Wrestling video game.

In the 1996 World Grand Prix, Bernardo knocked out Jeff Roufus and Aerts, and gained a decision over Musashi before Hug got his revenge with a spinning kick right to the knee that took out Bernardo in the second round in the Grand Prix finals. That wound end up being the peak of his career and was remembered as one of the highlights of the peak period of K-1.

In 1997, he was eliminated by Aerts in the quarterfinals. In 1998, he was eliminated by Aerts after a ref stoppage in the first round in the semifinals. On October 3, 1999, he was knocked down three times in just 80 seconds by the emergence of a new star, Mirko Filipovic from Croatia, who was later renamed Mirko Cro Cop. While he continued to be a star in K-1, he was no longer among the elite. His final big win was his revenge on Cro Cop with a 67 second win when Cro Cop's corner stopped the fight on October 9, 2000, in Fukuoka. By that point he was already bothered by neck problems which brought a premature end to his career at the top level.

"That's when the ratings were peaking," noted Schiavello. "They were the premiere fighting organization on the planet. The UFC today can't even come close to replicating the kind of numbers they were doing and he was one of the top five guys who built it."

Over the next few years he split first round knockouts with Gary Goodridge, beat wrestler Tom Erikson and boxer Butterbean, while losing to gimmick giant Jan Nortje before his kickboxing career ended with a draw against 170-pound Thai star Kaoklai Kaennorsing, who was a hot commodity at the time. The neck got so bad that under doctor's orders, in 2004, he retired, finishing with a 54-18-3 record and 42 knockouts.

He also compiled an 11-1-1 record as a pro boxer, winning the essentially meaningless World Boxing Federation world heavyweight championship on May 12, 2000, with a sixth round knockout of Daniel Jerling. He retained the title twice, including a 41 second knockout of former Mike Tyson victim Peter McNeeley in Cape Town in 2001, and never boxed again.

Bernardo's only MMA match was on the second Inoki Bom Ba Ye show on December 31, 2001, at the Saitama Super Arena. In one of the worst fights in history, he faced pro wrestling legend Nobuhiko Takada in a match that ended up on the ground, where Bernardo knew nothing and Takada did no damage, to a three round draw. Bernardo was scheduled to face Japanese TV comedian Bobby Ologun under MMA rules at the 2004 New Year's Eve show, but pulled out due to neck problems, and never fought in Japan again.

Even though he made good money during that period, and had no financial issues, Cape Town was a rough place to live. He had barbed wire over the top of his house, barbed wire sensors around his house and even when he watched television in his living room, he always kept a gun beside him, and when he'd leave the house, he always had a gun with him because car jacking was so prevalent.
Masayuki Okamoto, the sumo who was involved in the match fixing scandal and kicked out of the sport, who debuts on the 2/17 IGF show against Bob Sapp, will be using the name Shogun Okamoto.
Ultimate Warrior, 54, is making a rare pro wrestling appearance for Northeast Wrestling on 3/23 in Poughkeepsie. He won't be wrestling, but will be signing autographs, doing a promo and it's been teased he will do something physical. The show also includes John Hennigan (Morrison) vs. Fit Finlay, Melina vs. Velvet Sky, Matt Hardy, Tommy Dreamer and Jerry Lawler.
A name you may want to remember, for either pro wrestling or MMA, is Alan Gelogaev, a junior at Oklahoma State who is currently ranked No. 2 in the nation with a 21-0 record. He's a Russian born wrestler who is said to be one of the quickest heavyweights and has a great physique for a heavyweight in the young Kurt Angle or Andrei Arlovski heavyweight vein and not the Brock Lesnar vein. He's 25, took third in the Russia national championships at the age of 19 and was a training partner of Daniel Cormier before the last Olympics. Cormier went to Oklahoma State and made the connection. I was told he's got the look that WWE likes, and considering Gerald Brisco's connections at Oklahoma State (he went to college there in the 60s) as well as those of Jim Ross, he's possibly already on their radar. Obviously with the Cormier connections, he would be on that radar as well after next season ends.
Nikita Koloff, 52, has written an autobiography called "Nikita: A Tale of the Ring and Redemption." Bill Murdock, who did the Jack Brisco autobiography, worked with him on the project, put out by Crowbar Press.
Mike Chapman, who authored books on Danny Hodge and Frank Gotch, has just completed a new biography on Earl Caddock, who was world champion from 1917-1920, and whose 1920 match with Joe Stecher in Madison Square Garden set the building's gate record that stood until the Bruno Sammartino era. Stecher and Caddock also likely received the biggest payoffs ($25,000 and $15,000) for main eventing the Garden until everything was blown out of the water financially at the first WrestleMania.
Brandon Jacobs of the New York Giants did an angle with Bully Ray at the 2/13 Impact tapings as a last minute deal. TNA was close to a deal where Jason Pierre-Paul, the New York Giants defensive end, was going to appear at the 2/13 Impact tapings to do the angle. The information was released and reported by Alex Marvez, who is FoxSports.com's lead NFL writer. However, TNA put the info out before the deal was signed. Pierre-Paul wasn't happy about that, and the next morning apparently pulled out of the deal. His agent, Robert Bailey, told FoxSports.com that "He declined because he is exhausted." With Pierre-Paul, it would have meant about the same as last year when Bart Scott was used for an angle with Angle. But it probably wouldn't have been as good since Scott was a huge wrestling fan, and Hogan fan, and was willing to do as much as he legally could (NFL players are prohibited from participating in outside the ring activities that could be dangerous so any physicality in pro wrestling has to be cleared by the team, and Scott did agree to physicality). With Jacobs, he got pub after the Super Bowl, as he was the one who gave the quote that everyone carried about Gisele Bundchen, the supermodel girlfriend of Tom Brady. Bundchen criticized Patriots receivers for dropping the ball and Jacobs said about her, that she should "stay cute and shut up." It would have been clever to have worked that line into the show with one of the women, particularly if Karen Jarrett was still with the company because the other heel women don't have the right kind of heat to make it work. Jacobs did a series of things at the taping to air over the next two weeks on Impact, all designed for Sports Center moments and New York media pick-ups. Was told he was a total natural, his back-and-forth with Bully Ray was good and they expect the climax of the program where he choke slammed Ray through a table, which airs on 2/23, will get them mainstream publicity.
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Lorenzo Fertitta was on twitter this past week and in answering questions, noted that UFC is earmarking Junior Dos Santos vs. Alistair Overeem for 5/26 in Las Vegas. He also confirmed the Frank Mir vs. Cain Velasquez direction we had noted weeks ago, although didn't give a date. He said the Dominick Cruz vs. Urijah Faber bantamweight title match would be on 7/7. He confirmed they were looking at doing a Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin fight over the next few months. That would be Ortiz's final fight of his contract and if he would lose, it would likely be his final UFC fight. Even if he wins, there is a good chance it's his last fight. Either way, I don't see Ortiz with too many fights left. While he didn't say it, they were hoping both fights to be on the 5/26 show, but in both cases, it's questionable. Velasquez may not be ready. Everyone now internally recognizes that he shouldn't have fought on 11/12 (neither should have Dos Santos so it's not an excuse for the loss, just that both men took it for the team and he lost), so he's not going to fight until he's healed up from his knee and other injuries as they don't want to rush him back. The situation with Ortiz is similar. He's banged up right now and they are hoping for 5/26 but it may be 7/7 for both of those fights.

Fertitta also said that Ultimate Fighter Brazil would be airing on UFC.com with English subtitles. The show will be taped in Portuguese. Dana White had previously said it would be airing on Fuel. George Greenberg, who runs Fuel, said they were still in negotiations and was expecting to air the show.

Fertitta also talked of interest in Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva and Frankie Edgar (if he beats Ben Henderson) vs. Jose Aldo Jr., but keep in mind he's been pushing for Silva vs. GSP for years. I think Jones vs. Silva is a good idea, particularly since I don't think Silva has many fights left, but I don't know if Silva wants that fight. White had been negative on that one saying that if you see the two of them, there is a pretty big size difference. Edgar vs. Aldo is a good fight to make because even though they fight in different weight divisions, there is very little size difference between the two, and having been around both, my sense is Aldo is actually the bigger guy.
Gina Carano is getting her second movie starring role. The film, called "In the Blood," is an action movie directed by John Stockwell. Carano plays the wife of a man who gets kidnapped and killed by the bad guys, and she pursues and beats them up. The movie is scheduled to be filmed around May or June in Puerto Rico.
Golden Glory got a new court order against Alistair Overeem. They are asking for $427,714.27 to be withheld from Overeem's pay for UFC 141 because they feel based on their contract with him that they are entitled to it.
Rampage Jackson has hinted to some people that if he beats Ryan Bader on 2/26, that he will retire.
Overeem has also signed with Authentic Sports Management, which means he will be part of the Blackzillians team that trains in South Florida with people like Rashad Evans, Melvin Guillard, Anthony Johnson and Miguel Torres.
Urijah Faber and Dominick Cruz went at it on twitter. Cruz waxed him, noting that he's now gone 4-1 against Faber and guys Faber has coached. Faber came back saying that in the rematch, "What u gonna do, decision me up." And then said, "U never thanked me for saving your life. When I let go of the choke (in Faber's win over Cruz in 2007) after you tapped, gave you breath again." Cruz responded, "Thanks for letting go 5 years ago. Choking sounds similar to what you have done on your last four title fights."

There are a few things that haven't been talked about regarding the show. The first is that they are going to do fights weekly on FX live. The plan right now is to tape the semifinals on 5/25 and then have the finals live on the 6/1 show, which will be from the Palms in Las Vegas. The obvious problem is the risk of two guys fighting on 5/25 and the winners having to come back for a three round main event seven days later. They are not married to the idea and I've heard several different ideas floating around about what can be done. It wouldn't surprise me to have the semis on 5/18, and do a one hour Countdown show on 5/25, but even two weeks is a very short turnover meaning the odds are high, maybe too high, that an alternate will end up in the finals.

Faber will be bringing his Team Alpha Male camp to Las Vegas. His plan right now is to start his training camp about seven weeks into the TUF season, and Lorenzo Fertitta has gotten a great house in Las Vegas for him and his team to live in during the filming. For the fighters in the cast, this will be the toughest season in the sense they will be locked up for 13 weeks instead of six as in the past, and most were going stir crazy by four. The good side is that in real time, they will have more time between fights. The idea of the season of TUF is to have Faber and Cruz both in full fight training for the last several weeks of the show, hoping that exposure and the fact the two really don't like each other and it'll come out on camera will help the buy rate. Even though the first fight was very good, I don't sense without help that the rematch would draw all that well.
Another longtime relationship that went asunder was that of Mauricio "Shogun" Rua and manager Eduardo Alonso. This came just days after Jose Aldo Jr. dropped Ed Soares as manager. What is happening is that UFC has offered guys at the top major money long-term deals and given them talks, similar to what happened with Alistair Overeem and Golden Glory, that all of a sudden whatever percentage they are paying to management is now pretty big and they could keep it for themselves. It's exactly the same as when WWE used to pressure wrestlers to get rid of agents. The irony was rich since the key agent of that time, Barry Bloom, has in recent years repped both Jim Ross, who was management at the time they were pushing in that direction, and HHH, who runs talent today.
Cael Sanderson contacted Dana White on twitter asking for time to discuss ideas on how to promote amateur wrestling. Spruce up the live events with the idea of entertainment and create grudge matches, and encourage guys to be able to talk.
A video has surfaced of octagon girl Chandella Powell doing softcore porn. As soon as that happened, there were only two Octagon girls at the weigh-ins on 2/14. I hope that doesn't mean she's headed to art school or back to Lethal Weapon movies or something.
Bellator's Eddie Alvarez vs. Shinya Aoki rematch, which from a high-profile fighters standpoint would be the biggest fight in the history of the promotion, will be on 4/20. There have been a number of reports that Alvarez isn't long for this promotion. Alvarez is the company's biggest star, even though he lost the title to Michael Chandler and because of the stringent style of booking (no title matches unless you win an eight-man tournament and Alvarez turning the tournament down), there is no hope for a rematch any time soon. I don't know Alvarez's contract (it is more than six figures per fight) except a few years ago, when UFC was interested in him, Bellator made an offer considerably higher and it was described that while UFC would like to have him, the dollar figure was way too high for someone at his level. However, they are said to be far apart on a new deal. Alvarez I believe has one fight left after 4/20, and his time line of his contract expires late this year. He could go to UFC, and if he was successful there, he'd make more money but with all the depth in the lightweight division, it's tough waters to navigate.
Bob Sapp lost to Rolles Gracie in 1:18 with a takedown and ground and pound on 2/11 in Jakarta, Indonesia for One FC. It's listed as Sapp's fourth loss in a row over the past year, although he's running around all corners of the world constantly and there are probably fights under the radar you never hear about. Sapp weighed in at 350 pounds for the fight.

Sapp next headlines a 3/11 show in Mumbai, India in the debut promotion of the Super Fight League. Sanjay Dutt, a well-known actor in India (Sonjay Dutt took his name from him) is one of the people behind this group. Ken Pavia, who was one of the best known agents in MMA until he ended up being sued by UFC on the charges he was passing along UFC proprietary contract information to Bellator (which was also sued) and shortly after ended up, is running the outfit. Sapp faces James Thompson, of the Kimbo Slice exploding ear fame. They have signed a three-year contract to have all fights airing live on the Super Fight League youtube channel.
Shortly after the talk that his career was over after his New Year's Eve loss to Fedor Emelianenko due to brain edema, reports are that Satoshi Ishii will face Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou in a battle of high level judokas on a 3/31 show in Manaus, Brazil.
Now that Rick Santorum has picked up momentum as a presidential candidate, his WWE past has garnered some stories. There really isn't a lot to it. In the 80s, he worked as a lobbyists for WWF in getting wrestling deregulated in the state of Pennsylvania.
Mark Henry will be inducted into the Columbus, OH version of the International Sports Hall of Fame on 3/3 as part of the Arnold Classic weekend. Henry is being inducted largely because he won a world's strongest man contest done at the Arnold Classic many years ago, and for his exploits as a weightlifter and powerlifter. Randy Couture (who beat Tim Sylvia for the heavyweight title in the biggest fight ever in conjunction with the Arnold Classic) is also being inducted, as are two others who dabbled in pro wrestling, boxer Chuck Wepner (who had matches with Andre the Giant and Antonio Inoki) who was the inspiration of the movie "Rocky," Jack LaLanne, who wrestled briefly in Northern California before becoming far more famous in the fitness world, Cory Everson (multi-time Ms. Olympia who was linked in the 80s to Hulk Hogan and whose sister, Cameo Kneur, worked for WWF as the female star of "WBF Body Stars" with Vince McMahon and Lex Luger), and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Charly Manson (Jesus Luna Pozos) was sentenced to 15 years in jail this past week for an incident on 4/24 where Manson got into a fight with two police officers and seriously injured them. Manson, known as Charlie Malice on the Lucha Libre Masked Warriors show that used to be on MTV 2, was one of AAA's most popular wrestlers at the time of his arrest. The arrest took place in Colonia Santiago Zapotitlan, just outside Mexico City. Luna and his friend, Arian Lopez, were looking around for Luna's car on Sunday night and couldn't find it. They thought his car may have been stolen so they went to a police officer. The officer claimed both men were heavily drunk and instead of helping them look for the car, he went to arrest them for public intoxication. This led to an argument. In the argument, Luna picked up a hard rock and punched both officers numerous times with it, leaving one of the officers with a fractured skull and brain trauma, and the other in need of surgery for a broken jaw, broken nose and broken orbital bone as well as neck injuries. Luna's car was very close to where the incident took place and as it turned out it wasn't stolen, just that he couldn't remember where he parked it.
After last week's note on Oklahoma State heavyweight Alan Gelogaev, a junior from Russia, it turned out Jim Ross saw him wrestle on 2/16 and wrote, "Certainly the OSU heavyweight who is from Russia is an interesting athlete but I know nothing about his personality or desire to explore sports entertainment. Physically, he's in the hunt." From what we understand, Gerald Brisco, whose job includes scouting future WWE prospects, has him on his radar for after his senior year in 2013. He's said to have a great physical appearance and good quickness to go along with the obvious toughness of a still-unbeaten heavyweight who is ranked No. 2 in the nation right now.
Kurt Angle did a lengthy BBC interview talking about the Olympics. What was notable is that Angle has completely changed his tune now that he's been training with wrestlers in the area, basically talking like he's doing this for the experience of doing it as opposed to having a shot at being in the Olympics. When talking about his chances to actually go to the Olympics, he said they were "slim and none." One thing about this is he is still wrestling for TNA and it's February. I remember that GSP, who is a lot younger than Angle, when he talked about going to the Olympics in wrestling, he said he would need to take 18 months off MMA to do nothing but the Olympics, and here Kurt, at 42, who granted has experience at that level, is still doing TNA two months before the trials. Really, if he wanted to try and come back, 2004 was his last legit opportunity but his neck issues pretty much killed any hope. He insisted he was going to at least show up for the trials. "The only negative publicity I could get is if I didn't show up for the trials. I don't want people to think Kurt Angle is a quitter." He also noted the difference between this and MMA: "I've been chastised for going into MMA and backing out. But the reason I backed out was the terms, they wanted me ready to fight in four weeks but you've got to be out of your mind." "This time it's about the experience. If I make the team, that's the icing on the cake but you can never, ever take that Olympic gold from me. I've already go one. I just want a second one." He said even his brothers (who competed as wrestlers) aren't taking him seriously and his ex-wife has been saying he's not in shape to do this, noting even his family tells people he's not really doing it.
Greg Jackson told Jon Jones on 2/18 that he will corner him against Rashad Evans. Jackson is Jones' trainer and for years was Evans' trainer. He had the rule that nobody from his stable should fight each other. It was Jones who first agreed to the fight when Evans said he would never face Jones, which led to the falling out, but it was Jones who left Albuquerque to form his own team based out of Boca Raton. Jackson was going to train Jones for the fight, but previously was not going to corner him the night of the fight.
Nate Marquardt was signed, but not to UFC, to Strikeforce, by Dana White this past week. Marquardt was fired after his 6/26 fight with Rick Story fell through in a unique steroid scandal. Marquardt had gotten cleared by the New Jersey Athletic Control Board for testosterone replacement therapy before a fight with Dan Miller. As part of being cleared for use even though they did not have time to do full medicals for him because of how late he declared, New Jersey had the right to test him after the fight. Shortly before his fight with Story in Pittsburgh, he was tested by New Jersey, and it was found he had taken more testosterone than was allowable. Instead of directly ruling this a test violation, given he was on more steroids than allowable during the hardest training phase, they instead ordered that he would have to test within limits by fight time. He was tested regularly until fight time, but could not get down to legal limits, thus was not allowed to fight. With the main event falling apart at the last minute, White fired him. Shortly after the fight, he was tested, fell into legal limits, and Pennsylvania rescinded his suspension. He signed with BAMMA in the U.K., but with that promotion having financial problems, he was released. White signed him this week to Strikeforce, where it is expected he will be put against Tyron Woodley later this year in a match to determine the vacant Strikeforce welterweight champion.
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Lorenzo Fertitta at an auction in Las Vegas on 2/18 submitted a winning bid of $1.1 million for the gloves Muhammad Ali wore when he beat Floyd Patterson in a 1965 fight. It was part of a fund-raiser in conjunction with Ali's 70th birthday which included a video message by Barack Obama, and featuring 2,000 guests at $1,500 per plate, including a ton of celebrities including Ali, Jim Brown, Sammy Hagar, Tony Danza, Larry King, Cindy Crawford, Anthony Hopkins, Manny Pacquiao, Lenny Kravitz, Andre Agassi and Samuel L. Jackson. The event was to raise money for the Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health and the Muhammad Ali Center in Louisville. Basically everyone big in boxing was there to honor Ali except Don King and Floyd Mayweather Jr. That's because Bob Arum put the thing together and they are promotional rivals. This will be televised on either ABC or ESPN on 2/25.
King Mo is out of the hospital after his five knee surgeries after suffering a staph infection while undergoing surgery for ACL replacement. Actually he's been out for some time. He was in the hospital for 12 days total and at one point the infection was so bad it was feared he may lose his leg and his career would be over. He was told that if he came in two days later the infection could have been fatal. He's expected to make a complete recovery and will be able to begin training in about five weeks.
The death of Mike Bernardo, the K-1 star from the late 90s, is now being reported to be a suicide caused by depression at the age of 42.
A show in Manaus, Brazil, has a number of familiar names on it including former UFC fighters Ronny Torres, Patrick Cote and Josh Burkman, plus headline matches of Satoshi Ishii vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, Thales Leitis vs. Matt Horwich and Murilo Bustamante (45-year-old former UFC middleweight champion) vs. Dave Menne (who he beat to win the title ten years ago).
Amanda Lucas, the daughter of George, who is used in Japan as an attraction in fighting gimmick women (including the daughter of the man who killed Rikidozan), got another win in that type of a match. Lucas defeated 90s pro wrestling star Yumiko Hotta, on 2/18 at the Tokyo Dome City Hall. The match was billed to create the first Deep Open weight champion. It was a one-sided win for Lucas, 30, over the 45-year-old Hotta, who hadn't done an MMA fight since 2000. Lucas was on top on the ground punching Hotta most of the fight before winning at 2:16 of the third round via armbar.
Maurice Smith, who is now 50, has signed to fight for Resurrection Fighting Championships on 3/30 in Kearney, NE. Smith was an early UFC champion, who was a world heavyweight kickboxing champion in the late 80s and defeated Mark Coleman for the UFC title, after winning the Extreme Fighting title, essentially in a unification of two of the three major promotions in the world at the time (the third being Pancrase). Smith had good defensive skills standing so was able to fight into his early 40s without taking a lot of punishment, but I'm never happy to hear news of a guy that age doing MMA.
C.M. Punk got some TMZ publicity in a twitter feud with Chris Brown. Punk made a remark on twitter that he'd like to curb stomp Brown , in reference to Brown and Rihanna agreeing to collaborate on music three years after he pleaded guilty of a violent assault against her, which he received five years probation for. Brown retorted back on twitter saying that Punk is on steroids and couldn't please a woman, and Punk then responded back with a video interview saying that he's never used steroids, that he's drug free, and that Brown didn't get adequate punishment for his crime. He challenged Brown to a fight where all the proceeds would go to bettered women shelters and then noted that he knew Brown would never accept because he'd never fight with somebody who could fight back. They played this up big on Smackdown even though it doesn't appear to be any kind of a wrestling angle, but maybe they were just happy one of their guys is getting mainstream pub and playing it up for all it's worth. Punk can do what he wants and I've got no issue with him, and he got pub challenging the guy to a fight even though it's just your typical grandstand stuff. But the way WWE played it up made them come across so minor league, like one of our guys got the attention of a real celebrity. Plus, WWE is inducting Mike Tyson, a convicted rapist, into the Hall of Fame in six weeks. So Punk is out there making a grandstand challenge for an MMA fight to this guy who beat up his girlfriend and somebody is going to make the connection that his company is doing what it is doing for Tyson and why doesn't Punk challenge him to a fight to stand up against people who mistreat women.
Taylor Rotunda, 21, who wrestles as Bo Rotundo at FCW, was arrested at 2:36 a.m. on 2/18 and charged with drunk driving. There have been an inordinate amount of WWE wrestlers, more developmental than anything, getting DUIs in the Tampa area in recent years. Rotunda took Breathalyzer tests that came out at .166 and .178, more than double the legal limit. He was released on $500 bond the next afternoon. Rotunda is the son of Mike Rotunda, a WWE producer/agent and former wrestling star, and the grandson of Blackjack Mulligan, as well as the younger brother of Husky Harris. He got into WWE right out of high school where he placed in the state high school meet and had the family connection. He told his older brother Windham (Husky Harris), who was on a football scholarship at Troy University, how much fun he was having and his brother left school and football to follow him to FCW. Because of his look, he was considered one of the best prospects in FCW but WWE didn't want to use him on the main roster yet or debut him on NXT because the company has an unofficial policy of not bringing any males to the main roster until they are at least 21. He's been plagued by injuries, including a lacerated liver, that he recently came back from. WWE hates the publicity but with the exception of Mike Mondo, I don't know of anyone that has gotten a DUI in WWE that was let go over it.
Chris Jericho is pushing that DDP's Yoga for Guys enabled him to make a full recovery from a herniated disc in his lower back that he suffered while training for "Dancing with the Stars."
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The UFC’s return to Japan on 2/26 (2/25 in the U.S.) has to be considered a success across the board. Great show. Sold out crowd. And it appears far stronger PPV numbers than anyone would have expected.

When the show was first booked, whether the fights would deliver or not, this did not appear to be a strong business show. Frankie Edgar vs. Benson Henderson hardly seemed like the kind of main event for the Japanese market. There was criticism of the lineup, even though there were plenty of Japanese fighters on the show including former stars in the country like Kid Yamamoto, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Mark Hunt, Rampage Jackson and Takanori Gomi, that it didn’t have enough names people knew. There was talk of UFC having to tailor the show for the Japanese mentality, like using a ramp or Lenne Hardt (the screaming lady ring announcer), and while I would have thought that was cool, even I knew that was not anything necessary.

According to those in Japan, that whole mentality was missing the boat. The first show was a success for the same reason early WWE shows were successful. It was a strong American product coming to Japan. It was described as equivalent to Walt Disney on Ice or the NBA All-Stars on tour, or an American rock band. It was the in thing in Tokyo among guys of a certain age, in many ways like it was in the U.S. when it first hit big. One person noted it was the UFC logo, the Octagon, and seeing what they perceived was a major American sport live that got over. Seeing guys who used to perform in Japan was cool, just like at a WWE show, the fans liked seeing Chris Benoit or Chris Jericho, who had been stars there years earlier, but in the end, it was the WWE product they were coming to see. They didn’t want New Japan Pro Wrestling, just like they weren’t there to see Pride or pro wrestling.

While Kid Yamamoto is still a mainstream name, he was not the reason for the big interest. And Yoshihiro Akiyama, no matter how Joe Rogan puts him over on the broadcast, has not been a mainstream name in Japan for years.

The question is, what is the long-term, because it drew as a novelty. Guaranteed, if they ran four shows a year in Japan, they would not do well very quickly. But the plan is once a year, and it’s like a touring band going to Japan. Can they do that and run a major arena? WWE comes twice and really doesn’t do that well compared to the other foreign markets they do, although they have the ability to charge high ticket prices and Japanese are very into American merchandise. UFC merchandise sold out quickly.

There were some notable things about the crowd, including chants of “UFC, UFC” at the show that only happened once that I can recall in the U.S., when Randy Couture represented UFC and beat James Toney in Boston. The crowd was heavily, heavily male. Pride, RINGS, K-1, UWFI and other groups when they were hot in Japan drew with the dating crowd and had tons of women at the shows. All the organizations tried to build good looking muscular guys, like Masato, Kid Yamamoto, Nobuhiko Takada. What was notable is that there were a lot of women congregated in the $435 section, which caused Japanese Internet reports that those seats (the only ones available the last week) were either given to women by sponsors or that sponsors bought the tickets at the end and gave them to women.

It wasn’t a pro wrestling crowd or a Pride crowd. In fact, when Riki Fukuda came out to “Power Hall,” the entrance music of Riki Choshu, there was no reaction. That entrance music, which dates back to 1979 or so, is just about the most well known ring entrance music of a pro wrestler in Japan with the exception of Antonio Inoki. The place did go wild when Jackson came out to the Pride theme.

It was a very strong live event and television show, highlighted by Benson Henderson winning the UFC lightweight title from Frankie Edgar via five round decision in an excellent main event.

Henderson, who was probably 175-180 pounds in the cage, whereas Edgar was 155-156, did more damage, damaging Edgar’s left eye with punches early and perhaps breaking his nose with a savage up kick, that was the most telling blow of the fight. But that was, I don’t want to say a fluke, but it’s a big scoring move in this fight, but something not as likely to be duplicated if they fought again the way somebody being quicker, or better standing, or better wrestling, would be expected to be duplicated in a rematch. The point is, Henderson was a deserved winner but it was close and there is nothing that would tell you which way a rematch would go conclusively.

Henderson landed more blows in every round but the first and it really wasn’t a matter of the size difference, but the ability to land. When it came to straight power, it was Edgar who was able to throw Henderson down frequently, but didn’t want to be on the ground with Henderson, so that ability didn’t matter, and Henderson immediately got up every time but once when he was taken or thrown down. The fight was almost all standing, with Henderson having an 87-69 edge in significant strikes, with the round-by-round numbers being 13-13 in the first, and Henderson’s edge in successive rounds 23-17, 15-13, 20-15 and 16-12. But Edgar landed the best punches of the fight in the fifth round including scoring the fight’s only knockdown. However, Edgar landed ten takedowns to two for Henderson over the five rounds.

Judge Sal D’Amato scored it 49-46, giving only round one to Edgar. Judge Howard Hughes had it 48-47, giving Edgar the first and fifth rounds, which was identical to how I had it. Judge Chris Lee had it 49-46, giving Edgar only the first. Enough of the rounds were close to where it was possible to give Edgar a 48-47 win. When it was over, I expected Henderson was winning, and also expected the usual robbery calls. And there was definitely the usual outcry, but the Observer poll had it 68% for Henderson, 26% for Edgar and 6% as a draw, so it was a pretty clear consensus belief Henderson won.

During the build they told the story of Henderson, who is half Korean and half Black, whose Korean mother met his father, an American serviceman stationed in Korea. They got married, brought her to the U.S., had two kids and then he pretty much disappeared. She couldn’t read or write English, and had to go on Welfare, but when the Welfare people wanted to take their TV set, she knew her kids liked watching TV, so she started working long days at a grocery store. They showed clips of Henderson and his mom going on a UFC sponsored military tour where they went to South Korea. And she was there in Japan and they kept showing her and she followed him around. It was just the cutest thing in the world.

Dana White indicated after the fight that Henderson would make his first title defense against Anthony Pettis, who knocked out Joe Lauzon in just 1:21. Henderson vs. Pettis would be a rematch of one of the best MMA fights in recent years, the December 16, 2010, fight on the final WEC show, where the two went down to the wire in a five round decision until Pettis landed arguably the single greatest move in Zuffa history, the springboard kick off the cage that knocked Henderson down in the closing seconds to garner the win and the WEC title. Henderson becomes the first person to have actually won both a WEC and UFC title (Jose Aldo Jr. held both but it was the same title carrying over).

It’s been quite the story the success of Henderson, Pettis and Donald Cerrone, the WEC’s big three lightweights, in the sense many expected them to come to UFC and be exposed and fall into the mid-level. Instead, two are fighting for the title and Cerrone came one fight shy of being in that same mix.

Edgar claimed that he won the fight, landing more (he didn’t) and getting more takedowns (he did but didn’t follow up on them). He also noted that when he won the title from B.J. Penn, that Penn got an immediate rematch, and when he drew with Gray Maynard, that Maynard got an immediate rematch. There is a great argument that in a relatively close and ultra-competitive fight that Edgar should get a rematch given his recent wins. Pettis had a great win over Lauzon, but his previous bout was a split decision win over Jeremy Stephens that could have gone either way. The fight before that, he lost to Clay Guida. Edgar, on the other hand, only had lost one fight in his career, to Gray Maynard, which he later avenged.

Also notable is that Dana White said he thought Edgar won 48-47, but made the call to go with Pettis. White made it clear if he had his way, he’d have Edgar move to 145 pounds, which needs more star power, to build for a title match with Jose Aldo Jr. Edgar’s camp doesn’t want to move down even though he’s always asked about it, to the point it has become badgering. His camp said they don’t want to move weight, and are trying to drum up support for Edgar to get a rematch. There really is no right or wrong answer on this one because I don’t think there is a business difference and Edgar from a sports standpoint is more worthy.

He’s had the better run, lost a close fight, beaten more good people and is the bigger star. Charisma aside, he has been a great champion and a top fighter for years. Pettis had one great win, a lucky win and a loss in his last three fights. But he does hold a win over the champion. What Pettis has going for him is the last Pettis vs. Henderson fight was so great, he won, and it’ll be 18 months by the time the rematch happens (figure this next title fight for July) so people will be ready for it. One would have thought business favors Pettis. The Observer poll was strongly in favor of Pettis (69-31%), but if the early buy rate is close to accurate, that muddies the picture.

The thing is, yes, Edgar is very small for a lightweight. He’s smaller than Aldo Jr. and he’s actually about the same size as Dominick Cruz (the 135 pound champion who cuts from 158). But size has only been a negative to Edgar in one fight, his loss to big Maynard, and he fought Maynard twice more and held his own. The thing Edgar has with his strong wrestling is that guys who come in 20 pounds heavier can’t muscle him around, but he’s much quicker than they are and he wins via speed, movement and conditioning standing, and not cutting weight helps in conditioning unless the bigger guy is wrestling you and making you carry his weight, which almost never happens to Edgar. At a lighter weight, he would not have that speed edge. But I can see where White is coming from. Aldo Jr. has no real strong opposition and he and Edgar is a very interesting fight. And lightweight has far too many quality guys, and for the promotion, it would be better if Edgar and Clay Guida, who are both smaller guys in that division, dropped and strengthened the lower division.

Even though the show started at 9:30 a.m. Tokyo time, and the Saitama Super Arena with normal traffic is about one hour away (and this was tougher than usual because there was a major marathon going on that caused traffic getting to Saitama to be tighter), the place was basically full by 10 a.m. UFC did not announce any figures at the show because they weren’t finalized, and at press time, the final numbers still weren’t in. The show did approximately 21,000 people and was a legitimate sellout, the paid was about 18,000 and the gate was in the range of $3.3 million, give or take a little on all those numbers.

To keep from having to start at 8:30 a.m. in Tokyo, they added an hour to the PPV making it a four-hour show, plus had the two hours of prelims on FX, creating a six hour window. That would normally be daunting, but the show was paced well, with a lot of interesting characters and good fights. It was one of the best UFC shows in a while.

The show did 1.5 million viewers on FX (we didn’t get a rating but that would be a 1.1 or 1.2), which is the strongest of the three prelim shows thus far on the station. It was well ahead of the Spike average for these type of shows and shows that the conversion of UFC viewers to knowing to turn to FX is just about complete. The show did a 1.40 in Males 18-34 and 1.18 in Males 35-49.

The big surprise was in PPV, as preliminary indications are about 375,000 buys, which is way above predictions. Keep in mind, numbers this early in the game can be off by a significant amount. The last time Edgar main evented, they did 225,000 buys. As far as what the difference was, this did have Rampage Jackson (Edgar vs. Maynard had Aldo Jr. vs. Kenny Florian as its co-feature). It’s a good sign because the usual rule is that an overseas show doesn’t do as well as a North American show, and may be a very positive sign for the upcoming Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen fight. The surprising numbers have started ever since the move back an hour which seems to have resulted in stronger West Coast numbers. That also coincides with the FOX deal going into effect.

As far as reasons, I did see a lot more advertising for this than usual with a lot of televised stuff. The pre-show being two hours and doing a good rating may have helped. The TV commercial was also good. And it could be that Edgar was finally getting over (in looking at trending patterns before the show and who had the most interest, it was Edgar slightly ahead of Jackson, with Henderson about half that of Edgar and Ryan Bader next, and well below Henderson). This also came with a Countdown show airing on Fuel (it probably aired on Fox Sports Net as well but wasn’t advertised and probably didn’t do much in the way of viewers). But across the board, everything was positive here.

The strongest markets per capita appeared to be Edmonton, Las Vegas, Vancouver, Honolulu, Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Calgary, Toronto, Melbourne, Winnipeg, San Antonio, Seattle, Dallas, San Francisco and Denver.

For Japan, UFC is limited to the WOWOW Channel, a pay sports channel that only reaches a small percentage of the population. But TV Tokyo, which is a network, although one of the smaller ones, did air this show on a few hour tape delay at around 3 a.m. that night in a 90 minute edited format. They are also replaying it on a Saturday afternoon, when viewership is a lot higher.

For Japan, it was a mixed bag. Kid Yamamoto was given a fighter with an 11-7-1 record whose strength was submissions. Yamamoto had never been submitted in his career, but made a mistake and got caught. Akiyama faced Jake Shields in a completely weird fight. Shields looked terribly weak making 170 at weigh-ins, but he did look a lot better in the cage. Still, he couldn’t take Akiyama down until late in the fight. So this was mostly standing and Shields stand-up isn’t good, and Akiyama’s is considered his strong point. I’d have never figured Shields to win a striking battle, but for three rounds, he kept landing while Akiyama was never hurt, but wasn’t firing back. Shields landed 91 significant strikes in the fight to 33 for Akiyama in what would have been a boring match but Akiyama, or Sexyama as he was introduced, has so much charisma that he’s one of those guys you pay attention to even if the fight is boring. Plus, because he has power and it was standing, and Shields didn’t have much power, you kept thinking he was waiting for the opening and was going to finally start throwing and blow Shields out. But then the fight ended and it never happened.

Shields won all three rounds although it was closer than most 30-27 fights. Our poll had 63% for Shields, 33% for Akiyama and 4% a draw. I really couldn’t see Akiyama winning, although if you listened to Joe Rogan’s call of the fight without watching the fight, you’d think Akiyama was winning big.

Rogan was much talked about when it was over, particularly his call of this fight, where he talked about how popular Akiyama was, ignoring the booing and the thumbs down, and doing nothing but praising Akiyama’s takedown defense. And it was good, since Shields was struggling to get him down, but it didn’t matter because Shields was greatly outlanding Akiyama (91-33 on significant strikes).

But it was Jackson who was by far the most popular fighter on the show. Yamamoto got a nice reaction but this was not the Pride audience or the mainstream female Japanese audience. Akiyama was booed, although it didn’t come across that way on television. When he was shown on the screen he was booed. When he walked to the ring, he got a nice reaction, but that was because of his Sarah Brightman ring entrance which is one of the best in the sport. But when Bruce Buffer introduced him, he was booed more than cheered. But what wasn’t noticeable on TV was instead of booing him, the whole arena was in unison pointing their thumbs down at him when he came out. Still, because it was a close fight, the people did get behind him by the end of the fight.

But Jackson, who had done tons of media talking about how much he loved coming back to Japan, was the crowd favorite, in the sense he was a guy who started in Japan, and went to the U.S. and won the title. It’s really like the idea that Akiyama or Yamamoto were superstars in Japanese baseball, and then couldn’t hit major league pitching and flopped, or like if a Japanese wrestling star went to WWE and became a job guy, while a foreign guy like a Steve Williams who was a star in Japan, came back after winning the WWE title and became a superstar in the U.S.

But Jackson wasn’t in shape, apparently due to a knee injury. He said that due to the injury, he couldn’t run. He said his doctor told him he couldn’t fight this soon but he didn’t want to pull out of the show because it was in Japan. Dana White wanted the Jackson vs. Bader match to be on the 1/28 Fox show, but Jackson begged him to be put on the Japan show. But he only got down to 232 pounds in training, and tried to cut from there. He got to 211 and his body wouldn’t cut from there. Bader accepted the fight, since even though you can, nobody ever says when his opponent doesn’t make weight that they aren’t fighting. Marc Ratner, acting as commissioner, fined Jackson 20% of his base purse (believed to be $50,000), which Bader would get as a bonus, for missing weight.

He was probably 235-240 in the cage, but was not in shape and got tired. Ryan Bader was able to control most of the fight, although Jackson did manage to give Bader something approximating a Hokuto bomb, slamming him on his shoulder and the side of his head with Bader’s arm in a precarious position. Bader admitted he was knocked silly, but the arm luckily wasn’t hurt, and Bader controlled the fight from there.

Jackson had talked retirement in the week before the fight, although after was talking about wanting to fight again. It’s hard to judge people when they clearly aren’t in top shape, but a big part of the weight issue is Jackson allowing himself to get so heavy between fights that a big part of his training is just getting back to training weight, meaning that then, when you cut out the ability to run, you can’t get the weight down. Jackson had told Dana White that he wanted to fight as a heavyweight, but White told him that he thinks he’s better off as a light heavyweight.

In the last five years, there have been 27 instances in UFC of fighters missing weight, and the fighter missing weight has lost 17 of those times.

Also notable is the Japanese crowd, pushed by fighters and Joe Rogan as being this respectful crowd that doesn’t boo, actually continually booed when Bader took Jackson down. It wasn’t booing that they went to the ground, or booing that it was boring. It wasn’t a great fight but they would boo the minute the takedown happened, not after long periods of nothing happening on the ground. It was more the Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir II reaction. They had a guy they wanted to win so badly that they wanted the ref to help him out by giving him stand-ups, knowing he wasn’t going to win on his back.

The other big foreign star, Mark Hunt, who wouldn’t even be in UFC except after a long legal battle, they had to honor his contract when they purchased Pride, won his third in a row, knocking out Cheick Kongo. Kongo should be right up there with having the worst game plans, as when he fought Cain Velasquez, after he knocked Velasquez down, he’d try and turn it into a wrestling match and Velasquez dominated him there. With Hunt, whose ground game is so bad Sean McCorkle submitted him in seconds, Kongo, who can wrestle, never once took it to the ground and tried to kickbox with a former K-1 Grand Prix champion, a guy known for having a hard head and great power in both hands. Part of it may be that Kongo’s wrestling was limited due to a bad back, and Hunt knocked him out in the first round and actually has some momentum in the division, where you could see him being maybe third from the top (or higher in Australia where he was actually begging to fight in six days and be added to the card) against someone like Roy Nelson, Brendan Schaub or Stefan Struve.

The show featured Japanese fighter wins by Takanori Gomi and Hatsu Hioki, a great come-from-behind win by Tim Boetsch, upsetting Yushin Okami, who had been dominating the fight. And it also featured a surprising decision, as Chris Cariaso got a straight 29-28 win over Takeya Mizugaki in a decision heavily booed. It appeared the three judges were the only ones who thought Cariaso won, as all three rounds consisted of Mizugaki taking Cariaso down and keeping him on his back. Still, I wouldn’t call it a robbery. I had Cariaso winning the third round, and the first round was close. However, based on the Observer poll, with 88% saying Mizugaki won to 7% for Cariaso and 4% having it a draw, those numbers read like a Lee Murray level bank heist. It was right there with Bisping vs. Hamill as among the most one-sided poll results on a controversial decision in our history, even more than the first Shogun vs. Machida fight. White was so vehemently opposed to the decision that he paid Mizugaki his $12,000 win bonus.

The bonuses, at $65,000 each, went to Henderson and Edgar for best fight, Vaughn Lee for best submission and Pettis for best knockout.

1. Issei Tamura (7-2) beat Tiequan Zhang (15-3) at :32 of the second round via knockout. An exciting opener as both came out swinging. Zhang countered a left hook with a right that knocked Tamura down. But both were up and swinging and then Tamura knocked Zhang down with a short right and pounded on him from top position. Tamura was landing from the top when a stand-up was called way early. Tamura continued to land hard punches, got another takedown and kept Zhang on his back the rest of the round. In the second, Zhang came out with low kicks, but Tamura countered with an overhand right to the jaw that knocked Zhang cold. Tamura, who got the call only two weeks ago to appear, said this was a dream come true for him to appear on a show with so many legendary fighters in Japan.

2. Chris Cariaso (13-3) beat Takeya Mizugaki (15-7-2) via decision on straight 29-28 scores. Cariaso rocked Mizugaki with a flurry early, but Mizugaki powered Cariaso down with a bodylock takedown. Mizugaki didn’t do a lot from the top, only throwing a few ineffective punches late in the round, but he was on top for several minutes, and it was really the disagreements about scoring this round that decided the fight. In the second round, Cariaso was landing the better punches and trying for takedowns but couldn’t get them. When he committed to a takedown, Mizugaki reversed and took him down. This time he connected with hard shots from the top. Cariaso reversed, but Mizugaki got up right away before taking any damage. Cariaso landed a high kick and then worked for a takedown. Mizugaki blocked, but Cariaso landed a flurry of punches and moved out of the clinch. He tried a head kick, but Mizugaki used it to take him down. Mizugaki again held him down for several minutes without doing much damage. Cariaso got up and laded one good punch late. The crowd booed heavily when Cariaso got the call.

3. Riki Fukuda (18-5) beat Steve Cantwell (7-6) on scores of 30-27, 29-28 and 29-28. This was Cantwell’s fifth straight defeat, becoming the first person in UFC history to lose five straight while remaining in the organization. He’s almost assuredly going to get cut off setting that record. Fukuda took him down off an attempted kick and the crowd was strongly behind the former Japanese pro wrestler as he landed solid punches from the top. Cantwell got up and started landing, including a right that put Fukuda off balance. Crowd loved the first round, and two judges gave it to Cantwell. I didn’t, but it was close. In the second round, Fukuda landed punches and got another takedown. Cantwell got a fairly tight guillotine from the bottom but Fukuda got out and was landing punches. They were trading while standing and Fukuda was in better condition by this point and landing more. His arms seemed tired when he punched from squeezing hard on trying to get the guillotine. Fukuda was landing a lot of punches and elbows, but then Cantwell came back with punches, but his didn’t have the sting. Fukuda was hurting him with punches but then Cantwell got the takedown and got Fukuda’s back just as the round ended, but it wasn’t enough as the second round was Fukuda’s big. Crowd gave them a big ovation because they were loving the fight. Fukuda opened round three landing kick after kick to the left leg, then punches, and powered Cantwell down. Cantwell tried for an armbar and even a gogoplata, but didn’t come close. Fukuda got his back, then got side control. Cantwell escaped to his feet, but he was tired and getting hammered with punches to the head and body. Cantwell just hung on as Fukuda landed punch after punch until it was over. Very good fight, in particular the first two rounds before Cantwell got exhausted and became a punching bag.

4. Vaughn Lee (12-7-1) beat Kid Yamamoto (18-6, 1 no contest) in 4:29. Kid was popular, but the reaction was not overwhelming. Both were landing punches until Kid decked him with a right and was landing tons of punches. Lee was firing back but Yamamoto was blocking most of his punches. Kid was landing more until Lee started landing, and hurt Kid with an uppercut. Kid took him down easily, but Lee immediately went for a triangle. He had it almost locked but Kid blocked it, and then Lee switched it to an armbar and for the first time in his career, Yamamoto tapped out. He was furious about losing a fight he was doing well in. But Lee’s ground work as soon as it got there was really sharp. Another very good fight. Lee was almost in tears, noting that Kid was his hero growing up.

5. Takanori Gomi (33-8, 1 no contest) beat Eiji Mitsuoka (18-8-2) via ref stoppage from punches at 2:21 of the second round. Yet another great fight. Gomi was a big star in the Pride days. But he was not the mainstream big ratings draw like Akiyama or Kid. Mitsuoka landed early until Gomi staggered him with a right. Mitsuoka continued to get the better of things standing, and finally hurt Gomi with a right, and then got Gomi’s back and was working for a triangle from that position. The hold was tight and Gomi was considering tapping as he put his arm up, but he knew the round was ending and held on. It appeared the round ending is the only thing that saved Gomi. But in the second round, Gomi started landing punches standing. Mitsuoka stopped Gomi by taking him down, but Gomi got back up and was landing more punches and knees. Mitsuoka was in trouble. Mitsuoka went for a takedown, Gomi blocked it and started firing punches from that position. Gomi kept throwing punches until ref Leon Roberts stopped it. Another great fight and this got the biggest crowd reaction so far when finally one of the local stars won.

6. Anthony Pettis (13-2) beat Joe Lauzon in 1:21 after an awesome left high kick where shin met jaw head on and jaw lost that battle. There were four punches on the ground before it was stopped. The first or second punch finished Lauzon but the kick all but sealed the deal. Lauzon went to block the kick because he thought it was coming to the body, and Pettis went high with it instead. Pettis also came out fighting southpaw, which he had never done before, and that likely threw much of Lauzon’s preparation out the window. Pettis then challenged the winner of the main event for a title match. At least he got it, because if he droned on about his team and Jesus and I’ll do whatever Joe Silva wants, there’s a good chance Edgar would be getting the shot.

7. Hatsu Hioki (26-4-2) beat Bart Palaszewski (35-15) on scores of 30-27, 29-28 and 29-28. This Hioki was a different guy than the one who struggled and was lucky to get a decision over mid-level George Roop in his UFC debut. Hioki dropped Palaszewski with a left right away. This got the crowd into it with Hioki chants. Hioki was landing lefts and body kicks. Then Hioki got a takedown. Palaszewski tried a guillotine but never really had it. Hioki got out and into side control. Hioki got his back, worked for an armbar and looked like he had it but Palaszewski escaped. Crowd was going crazy for Hioki as he was landing hard punches from the top until the round ended. This was almost a 10-8 round and one of those rounds where you knew the current scoring system is broken because all three judges had it 10-9. I don’t disagree, since I’d have given it the same score, but when Palaszewski eked out round two, this thing was tied going into the third, and that was ridiculous. Second round was slower than the first. The stand-up was back-and-forth, pretty much even, perhaps even a slight edge to Palaszewski, but Hioki did get a late takedown and had his back as time was running out. In the third round, Hioki got a trip takedown and got a lot of punches on the ground. He moved to side control and kept landing. He got his back and worked for a choke, then threw elbows. Hioki grabbed a body triangle and also blocked Palaszewski’s leg leaving him trapped, while continuing to land punches. Rogan pushed that Hioki was No. 2 in the world and deserves a title shot. Dustin Poirier has looked so much more impressive than Hioki in UFC competition. Hioki had a great performance here, and came to the UFC with this Japanese rep thing where he’s supposed to be best in the world until he showed up and struggled with a mid-level guy. Because of that, I could easily see him getting the next shot at Aldo Jr. But there was nothing there that made me think he’s winning that fight.

8. Tim Boetsch (15-4) beat Yushin Okami (27-7) when it was stopped with Boetsch pounding on Okami at :54 of the third round. Yet another great fight. Okami came out and got polite applause. Okami hurt him with a right and started landing. Boetsch’s left eye was starting to swell. Okami dominated the stand-up including a great right kick to the side of the head. Boetsch landed some good shots but Okami clearly won the round, and Boetsch’s face was a mess, as he was swelling under both eyes. Okami dominated the second round as well. He had a hard time getting the takedown, but once he did, he worked for an arm triangle, Kimura and straight armbar. Okami ended up in full mount and landed a ton of punches from there in the last 23 seconds. Almost a 10-8 second round for Okami. The whole place was doing the Ric Flair “Whoo.” I’m not sure what it was for (not Flair). Actually they were doing it for much of the fight with Okami winning. Boetsch’s corner told him he was losing bad and better get a knockout, since he wasn’t going to win by submission most likely. Boetsch stared landing, with a hard right hurting Okami. Okami was in trouble and actually started running away. Boetsch caught him and landed several hard uppercuts, a head kick and more uppercuts until Okami crumbled to the ground and he was getting pounded on until it was stopped. Rogan then started going crazy saying this was the greatest comeback in UFC history. I mean, it was yet another great fight, and a very good comeback. But there have been tons of fights where one guy wins two rounds solid and then the other guy finishes him in the third. This was nothing that unusual. And then, and I’m guessing this is the power of messaging, all of a sudden Rogan started apologizing, saying it wasn’t the greatest comeback in history and he just got carried away. But this was one of the best shows in a long time. Up to this point, everything was good to great except Cariaso vs. Mizugaki.

9. Jake Shields (27-6-1) beat Sexyama, which is the name he was introduced as (13-5, 2 no contests) by straight 30-27 scores. This was Akiyama’s first fight at welterweight after being so outsized by UFC middleweights. Akiyama’s physique looked great at the lighter weight. Too bad this isn’t a charisma contest or a ring entrance contest or a singing contest, or basically anything except a battle of punching the head when one guy isn’t punching contest. Shields kept trying for takedowns and not getting anywhere. After a few minutes, the crowd started to get behind Akiyama because at the end of the day, he’s sort of Japanese (Japanese/Korean heritage) and he was stopping the wrestler from taking him down. Shields would throw punches, and then go for the takedown, fight hard and not get it. Rinse. Repeat. Then Shields threw some slow body kicks that landed. Finally Shields got a great takedown, but Akiyama got right up. Shields with knees, landed punches until Akiyama did this cool judo trip takedown, but Akiyama didn’t want to go the ground and let Shields up. Shields just kept landing to easily win the round. Akiyama came out in the second landing rights and a spinning backfist and grabbed Shields and almost rag dolled him. Shields wanted it on the ground and was having no luck. So he started throwing body kicks and jabs and kept landing. Well, that’s what happens when your opponent neither punches back or moves. Akiyama got a great hiptoss takedown but Shields got right back up. Third round saw Akiyama probably tired since Shields kept landing. Fans chanted for Akiyama to make a comeback since they could see Shields was ripe for the picking. But Akiyama wasn’t doing anything. Shields got a takedown but Akiyama got back up. Shields went for another takedown and Akiyama grabbed the fence to block it. Well, the Japanese know that Akiyama. He grabbed the fence a second time, the crowd booed but the ref didn’t penalize him for it, just told him to stop. Shields finally got him down, had his back and was working for a choke with seconds left but time ran out. I don’t know what it is about Shields, but he has this great ability to make every opponent suck, and to look like he himself should lose the fight but always win. Maybe it’s the aggression that tires them out. But Martin Kampmann sucked out of bad strategy, and GSP sucked because he got poked in the eye and couldn’t see but didn’t want to quit or give and give up his title. The only guy he couldn’t make suck was Jake Ellenberger. Don’t know what the future is for Akiyama, but as much as I’ll never get tired of his ring entrance, this was not a performance that helped his cause. At least Kid had a great fight that he lost. Maybe I should just buy a CD of his entrance music and put together a video of him coming to the ring early in his career when he was a star, because I can’t say I want to see him ever fight again.

10. Mark Hunt (8-7) beat Cheick Kongo (27-7-2) in 2:11. It’s probably good Vince McMahon didn’t see this show watching buffed Akiyama and perfect physique Kongo getting waxed by Skinny vegetarian and a Pillsbury Dough Boy. Kongo stayed outside trying to avoid Hunt’s power, but didn’t do a great job of it as Hunt knocked him down with a left. Kongo got up, so Hunt dropped him with a right to the side of the head. Hunt threw a few punches on the ground before it was stopped, but Kongo was out after the first punch on the ground. The crowd loved seeing the 5-10, 265 pound 37-year-old past his prime guy that was a star there 11 years ago get a win. Always a good story. UFC can actually push Hunt now. He’s got the deal where people have that feeling he’s got dynamite in his fists and if he just lands, he can beat anyone.

11. Ryan Bader (15-2) beat Quinton Jackson (32-10) on straight 30-27 scores. Crowd loved Jackson coming out, his facials and his staredown. Bader landed a left, a low kick and pushed him against the fence and worked him over throwing knees and body shots and kneeing Jackson’s legs. Bader kept moving, figuring the more Jackson had to move, the more he’d tire out. Bader landed more punches and went for a takedown, but seemed more to be trying to wear Jackson out. Bader landed an uppercut, went for a guillotine, landed a knee and Jackson started swinging and missing as the round ended. Jackson came out in round two looking for a knockout but missing. Then Jackson had his one highlight reel moment, landing the Hokuto bomb and the place went nuts. But even though his landing looked awful, like he could have broken his neck, broken his shoulder and broken his arm all with one move, he got up and was fine. Jackson landed a left to the body but Bader exploded for the takedown. The crowd started booing immediately when Bader got the takedown. That was hilarious after four plus hours of hearing about how these fans never boo (although they had already booed decisions and heels). Now they were booing because their guy was getting hammered on the ground. Bader was doing a good job of keeping Jackson down and landing elbows. Jackson got up and Bader did more knees to the thigh and got a second takedown, and got his back. Bader with more punches from the top while Jackson threw elbows from the bottom as the round ended. In round three, Bader pushed Jackson into the fence and landed a left on the break. Jackson kept missing the home run shot and Bader took him down and into side control He was throwing knees to the body, got his back, and took him down a second time. Jackson was tired and the crowd was at this point booing Bader like crazy. Bader was pounding on an exhausted Jackson with body shots and tried for a Kimura, but couldn’t get it. He grabbed a guillotine as time ran out. Fans booed Bader when it was over for three rounds and mostly domination. Third round was almost a 10-8 but not quite.

12. Ben Henderson (16-2) beat Frankie Edgar (14-2-1) to win the UFC lightweight title on scores of 49-46, 48-47 and 49-46. They almost had the super highlight reel open, as Henderson threw a kick, Edgar caught the leg, and Henderson went for an enzuigiri but Edgar ducked it. Both threw kicks at the same time. Henderson landed a kick to the body and Edgar threw him down, but Henderson got right back up. Henderson accidentally landed one to the groin. Henderson would throw body kicks and Edgar kept catching the kicks. Edgar took him down a second time but Henderson got right back up. Henderson landed a body kick and a knee, but Henderson threw him down a third time and landed a left. Striking was even but Edgar got three takedowns. But Henderson’s stuff landed stronger and Edgar has swelling over the right eye. They traded punches and body kicks in round two. Both were landing and Edgar got another takedown and went for a guillotine. Everyone knows Henderson is immune to the guillotine. Edgar got his back but Henderson got up and went for a Kimura standing, and Edgar sensed trouble and let him go. Henderson landed a left and a body kick and then a head kick and more punches. Edgar got another takedown and this time went to the ground with him landing shots. But perhaps the telling blow of the fight, with Edgar standing and moving in, Henderson nailed him with an up kick right to the nose, which bloodied Edgar’s nose and may have broken it. Henderson was pounding on him late to win a round that he was losing until that point, seemingly evening up the score at 19-19. The third round started with punches back and forth. Edgar tried a takedown and couldn’t get it. Henderson with a body kick and right, and Edgar failed on another takedown attempt. Fans started chanting “Frankie” at this point. Edgar with a nice right to the jaw. Edgar missed a punch and lost balance, enabling Henderson to get a takedown. Edgar got up, and Henderson got a second takedown. Edgar was back up but Henderson landed a kick to the head as he was getting up. Edgar’s left eye and nose looked real bad by this point. Edgar started landing punches but Henderson landed a left kick to the face. Then Edgar got a takedown but Henderson was back up. The crowd was going crazy at this point as it was on hell of a fight. Henderson with punches and missed on a high kick. Edgar got another takedown, but Henderson got right up. Another close round, leaning toward Henderson. Both were landing to start the fourth round. Henderson again accidentally nailed the groin with a kick. Edgar with a right and low kick and now landing crisp shots. They traded more punches. Edgar got another takedown but Henderson clamped on the guillotine. Edgar got out, but then Henderson escaped to his feet. Henderson went to karate mode with a side kick and a left elbow and low kicks. He was landing more punches and kicks to the body. Henderson seemed to win the round. Between rounds, Henderson was firing up the crowd which was going pretty nuts. More trading but Henderson’s shots were landing better. Edgar couldn’t get a takedown, but in trying, landed an uppercut. Edgar landed a hard left, which was the best punch of the fight. Edgar took him down again but Henderson got back up. Edgar was behind him but Henderson worked for a Kimura standing so Edgar got out of there. Henderson with a side kick and punches. Edgar took him down, but Henderson right back up. Edgar then knocked Henderson down with a right and tried to get Henderson’s back but Henderson got right up. Edgar landed a big left and Henderson back with a kick to the head and a left to the head. Henderson landed a jumping knee and was pounding on him as time ran out. Great fight.
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Part three of our series on UFC fighters who have also done pro wrestling starts with UFC 28 on November 17, 2000, and continues through 2007. Unlike in the early years of UFC, when there was a huge connection, plus with little money in MMA, the competitors were open to offers from Japanese pro wrestling which liked using MMA stars, the percentage of UFC fighters to do pro wrestling has dwindled. But there were still many, including big stars, who dabbled in it, mostly in Japan.

JOSH BARNETT - One of the biggest crossover stars in history, Barnett was a UFC champion, one of the biggest stars in Pride, as well as at one point being one of the top foreign stars of New Japan Pro Wrestling, even headlining the January 4, 2003, show at the Tokyo Dome. Barnett’s career in MMA has made him one of the most enduring heavyweight stars in history, a major player in the division for more then 11 years, but also one of controversy for his record three steroid test failures. Barnett was a lifelong pro wrestling fan, growing up in particular as a teenager getting tapes of the UWFI promotion in Japan, as well as Pancrase. He started MMA on small shows at the age of 19 in 1997, and at 21, “The Babyface Assassin” made his name winning a SuperBrawl tournament in Hawaii, and then submitting Dan Severn with an armbar when Severn was still something of a name. That win got him into UFC, where he defeated Randy Couture on March 22, 2002, to win the heavyweight title, at the age of 24, being one of the youngest champions in UFC history. However, he tested positive for steroids in the fight and was forced to vacate the title. This led to a lot of bitterness because Barnett was involved in a major contract dispute with Zuffa after he won the title. At the time, people actually believed that Barnett’s failure and suspension was because of the contract dispute and UFC controlled the Nevada commission, a charge that is ridiculous. But bitter feelings came from this and it’s been ten years and Barnett has never fought in UFC since. Instead, he signed with New Japan, and it was the stripped UFC heavyweight champion facing the IWGP champion as the big match for the January 4, 2003, Tokyo Dome show. Barnett lost to Nagata, but then signed a long-term contract as a top foreign star, rarely losing. While many people have dabbled in pro wrestling from UFC, or pro wrestlers have tried MMA, or people have gone from one to the other, Barnett is just about the only one who has, for a decade, been a significant name in both the entire time. During that period, Barnett won the vacant Pancrase world open weight championship from Yuki Kondo in 2003 and retained it, as a New Japan wrestler, beating Pancrase’s Yoshiki Takahashi in a shoot match on a pro wrestling show in 2003 at the Tokyo Dome and then vacated the title. Barnett is currently 31-5 as a fighter, with his only losses being three to a prime Mirko Cro Cop, one to Pedro Rizzo when Rizzo was at his best and Barnett was only 23, and one to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira when Nogueira was still considered one of the top heavyweights in the world. A decade after his title win, Barnett is now in the finals of the Strikeforce heavyweight Grand Prix tournament after scoring submissions on both Brett Rogers and Sergei Kharitonov in one-sided matches. He’s the only Zuffa fighter who has continued in pro wrestling due to the unique contract he signed with Strikeforce and Scott Coker, and he stole the show at the December 31, 2011, Tokyo Dome show with his pro wrestling win over Hideki Suzuki. Whether it’s his Billy Robinson style of working or copying Dusty Rhodes on promos, Barnett makes no bones about what he believe is the connection between the two. If he beats Daniel Cormier in the finals, he will almost certainly be signed by UFC, even though bitter feelings remain between he and Dana White, and that contract will force him out of pro wrestling.

MIRKO CRO COP - While the former top kickboxer who turned into an MMA legend has never done a pro wrestling match, he did do one angle, while under contract to UFC even, and garnered his mainstream fame in Japan in conjunction with pro wrestling as “The Pro Wrestler Hunter.” Already a star in K-1, Cro Cop was moved to MMA for a K-1 show that was built around a best-of-three series with K-1 vs. Pride. The big one was Cro Cop vs. Kazuyuki Fujita, who at the time was the IWGP heavyweight champion for New Japan. The August 19, 2001, match drew a huge rating, where Fujita shot in on Cro Cop, got a knee to the head that hit like a baseball bat would, and Fujita, who before his beatings with that thick skull could take anything, went right through it and took Cro Cop down. However he was busted up badly with massive blood and it was stopped in 39 seconds. Usually losing in MMA hurt pro wrestlers but this one benefitted both guys. They had a rematch on the December 31, 2002, show, and by this time Cro Cop had learned takedown defense and Fujita couldn’t get him down, but Cro Cop also couldn’t knock Fujita out, so Cro Cop won the decision. By that time Cro Cop vs. pro wrestlers was a huge storyline. On the December 31, 2001, show, Cro Cop knocked out Yuji Nagata in just 21 seconds. That result badly hurt Nagata’s pro wrestling career and unlike the Fujita fight, it came off like a black eye to pro wrestling. During the “Pro Wrestler Hunter” run, Cro Cop scored MMA wins over Fujita twice, Nagata, Kazushi Sakuraba, Dos Caras Jr., Ron Waterman, Yoshihisa Yamamoto, Kevin Randleman, Mark Coleman and Josh Barnett (three times) as well as kickboxing wins over Ryushi Yanagisawa and Bob Sapp. The Sapp fight on April 30, 2003, did better than a 30 rating, and with a 1:26 win via knockout, it made Cro Cop into the biggest foreign star except for Sapp of that era. Yet his only actual pro wrestling appearance was on a New Year’s Eve show for Hustle when he walked to the ring and knocked over Kintaro Kanemaru with a high kick, that was way too stiff, which Dana White, who normally doesn’t allow his fighters to do pro wrestling while under contract, gave him permission to do.

CHRIS HASEMAN - An Australian fighter who first made his name pro wrestling in Japan, Haseman only fought once in he UFC, a decision loss to the late Evan Tanner on July 13, 2002, in London, England. He was scheduled to appear in a grudge match in 2010, at the age of 40, in UFC’s debut in Australia, against Elvis Sinosic, but Sinosic pulled out at the last minute with a shoulder injury. In a rarity in UFC, somebody signed who didn’t lose was never used again, since Haseman vs. Sinosic was only being promoted as a local grudge match. Haseman, known as Christopher Haseman, was a regular for RINGS in the 90s, and was a good working underneath guy. He’s listed as having a 20-16 MMA record, although a few of those matches listed were pro wrestling bouts. He later became an assistant coach with the Brisbane Broncos rugby team, teaching them wrestling to improve their conditioning and toughness.

HEATH HERRING - Best known for his final career match, where he lost to Brock Lesnar on August 10, 2008, at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Herring grew up in Amarillo and debuted right out of high school with Steve Nelson’s USWF promotion where he and Evan Tanner became Nelson’s first local stars. He ended up going to Holland to train in kickboxing under Cor Hemmers. He became popular in Japan just as Pride took off in 2000, with wins over popular fighters Mark Kerr, Enson Inoue and Tom Erikson. As a trivia note, when the Pride world heavyweight title was created on November 3, 2001, the title match saw Herring lose via decision to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. He was a popular Pride star, winning most of the time but losing against the top tier guys like Nogueira, Fedor Emelianenko, Vitor Belfort (a decision loss that was a bad call) and Mirko Cro Cop. He got over in Japan wearing a cowboy hat and duster coat, as well as dying his hair multi colors. During the height of his Pride popularity, he did one pro wrestling match for the Wrestle-One promotion on January 19, 2003, at the Tokyo Dome, teaming with Terry Funk to lose to Satoshi Kojima & Hiroshi Hase. Herring was signed by UFC in 2007, and given a huge push, in fact the entire first show he was on was built around his debut and pushed like crazy in ads building him up to be a heavyweight division star. But in that fight, he was outwrestled by Jake O’Brien and lost a decision. He went 2-3 in UFC competition, retiring after his loss to Lesnar and ending his career with a 28-14, 1 no contest career.

QUINTON RAMPAGE JACKSON - A childhood fan of Jerry Lawler while growing up in Memphis, he got into wrestling in high school and won the state title as a way to go into pro wrestling after high school. But he continued wrestling in college and that led him to MMA. As a fighter, he adopted the ring mannerisms of 80s star Junkyard Dog, with the chain around his neck and howling as he came to the ring. He became an instant star with a loss to Kazushi Sakuraba in 2001 and was brought to the pro wrestling promotion Battlarts, where he beat Alexander Otsuka (it was a shoot match on a pro wrestling show) and followed on a Pride show beating pro wrestler Yuki Ishikawa. But even though there would be the natural connection with being a star in Japan, he became such a big star in Pride that he was unable to do the crossover pro wrestling matches that many others did after that point. He did also appear once on Raw, but that was as a guest star promoting “The A-Team Movie.”

LYOTO MACHIDA - Being half-Brazilian and half-Japanese, and living in Brazil as well as winning the Pan American championship in karate and winning the Brazilian championship in sumo, Machida was “discovered” by Antonio Inoki. Inoki saw, with his height, look and athletic background, someone who was similar to him (Inoki, who grew up in Japan but moved to Brazil as a teenager, was a Brazilian high school national champion as a shot putter when he was discovered by Rikidozan and brought back to Japan to be groomed to be the next generation wrestling superstar with Giant Baba and Kintaro Oki). The original plan was for Machida to win a few carefully picked MMA matches against name opponents that weren’t that good, and parlay that into being groomed to be New Japan’s next superstar. He was brought to Japan in 2002 with great publicity, just being called “Lyoto,” as the next big thing and was signed by New Japan Pro Wrestling. He debuted on the May 2, 2003, Tokyo Dome show, but did a shoot match, beating Kengo Watanabe, a well-known rugby star who had turned into a fighter, which he won via boring decision in a fight that didn’t get him over. He then scored wins over Rich Franklin and Stephan Bonnar before either were MMA names. But after a disappointing split decision with Sam Greco, Machida, not getting over, ended up being a disappointment. That, combined with Inoki running into money trouble saw him go on his own. The road led to winning 14 fights in a row, and then beating Rashad Evans on May 23, 2009, to become UFC light heavyweight champion. At the time, Machida looked to be the new big thing in UFC, but he’s struggled, winning a decision he shouldn’t have with Shogun Rua, then losing to Rua, Quinton Jackson and Jon Jones, with only a win over Randy Couture in between.

JUSTIN MCCULLY - McCully has been around doing MMA, pro wrestling, and things mixed in between, dating back to the mid-90s. McCully was friends and training partners at times with Rob Van Dam and Samoa Joe, and had a strong business relationship with Antonio Inoki, who brought him into a number of different Japanese groups he was involved with. McCully was Chyna’s regular tag team partner when Chyna had her short run where New Japan and Inoki tried to make her a star. He worked prelims for a number of worked shoot groups, as well as IGF. He was even involved with the start-up of a worked shoot promotion in the U.S., and worked a number of U.S. independents, most notably UPW. He was also fighting in the early days of Pancrase, and later in RINGS. He did four fights for UFC as a heavyweight between 2007 and 2009,, wins over Antoni Hardonk and Eddie Sanchez, and losses to Gabriel Gonzaga and Mike Russow. Now 36, McCully, who has an 11-5-2 MMA record, was cut after losing a decision to Russow on August 29, 2009 at UFC 102.

DOKONJONOSUKE MISHIMA - Born Yoshitomi Mishima, he started as an MMA fighter in Japan in 1998 with the Shooto organization, and in 2002, lost to Takanori Gomi via knockout in challenging for the Shooto welterweight (154 pound) title, which at the time was the lead title in that weight class in the world. Mishima fought a few times in Pride, held the Deep lightweight title and was in a tournament for the Pride lightweight title when he was raided by UFC in 2006. He also regularly did pro wrestling with the U-Style promotion, a group run by Kiyoshi Tamura trying to bring back the old UWFI promotion (the same group Frank Shamrock and Josh Barnett did pro wrestling for at the time). But in two UFC fights, he lost to Joe Stevenson via guillotine and Kenny Florian via choke, and was cut. After leaving UFC, he went back to pro wrestling and also held the Deep featherweight title, winning it from Masakazu Imanari on May 19, 2008, in Tokyo, before losing on August 23, 2009 to Takafumi Otsuka. He is still competing at the age of 39, holding a 20-7-2 record.

JOSH RAFFERTY - Rafferty, a childhood friend of Rich Franklin, was on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter, but was eliminated in 1:48 via choke in his first fight against eventual champion Diego Sanchez. He had one UFC fight, against Alex Karalexis on April 9, 2005, at the first Ultimate Fighter final, the show with the legendary Forrest Griffin vs. Stephan Bonnar fight. He lost in just 1:40 via TKO. Rafferty also trained as a pro wrestler in Cincinnati and worked area independents for a number of years, and had at least a few appearances as enhancement talent on WWE broadcasts. The last I heard about him, Dave Bautista was going to hire him as a trainer at his Gracie Gym in Tampa.

RICCO RODRIGUEZ - Another former UFC heavyweight champion, Rodriguez did one pro wrestling match, on the first Inoki Bom Ba Ye show on December 31, 2000, at the Osaka Dome. Rodriguez teamed with Naoki Sano (now Takuma Sano with Pro Wrestling NOAH) to lose to Bas Rutten & Alexander Otsuka. Rodriguez was very green as a pro wrestler and didn’t impress anyone. Rodriguez was a high school wrestler who moved onto Jiu Jitsu, and won the world championship in the blue belt division in 1997. In 1998, in the world submission championships, he won as both a heavyweight and open weight, and moved to MMA in 1999. His big break came when Pride signed him in 2000 to be a regular, debuting with a win over Gary Goodridge, a well-known former UFC star. He moved on to UFC in 2001, knocking out Andre Arlovski, Pete Williams, Jeff Monson and Tsuyoshi Kosaka. After Josh Barnett was stripped of the title, testing positive for steroids, and Randy Couture, who Barnett beat, refused to accept the title back, Rodriguez faced Couture on September 27, 2002, in Uncasville, CT. Couture was winning early against his much bigger opponent, but in the fifth round, while behind on points, Rodriguez turned the tables on a tired Couture, broke Couture’s orbital bone with an elbow and the match was stopped. Rodriguez was 14-1 and considered one of the best fighters in the world. But his life began spiraling out of control. He lost the title to heavy underdog Tim Sylvia in a first round knockout on February 28, 2003, in his first title defense. After a dispute with management, and after being knocked out by Pedro Rizzo in 2003, he was gone from the promotion. He’s worked on smaller shows ever since, and has lost four of his last five fights, and has a 48-15 record.

SEMMY SCHILT - One of the greatest kickboxers of all-time, the 6-11 ½ Schilt started out with Pancrase when that promotion was considered part of the pro wrestling world in 1996. Even though he dwarfed all his opponents, his lack of ground skills was a killer early as he lost seven of his first 12 fights, including splitting matches with Masakatsu Funaki, and beating Minoru Suzuki with a knockout with a knee. Eventually he was able to use his size and avoid takedowns, and with his reach, became difficult for the mostly 190 pound Pancrase fighters to deal with, winning their Open weight title over Yuki Kondo on November 28, 1999, in Osaka, and vacated the title when he signed with UFC in 2001. Schilt only fought twice in UFC, in 2001, beating Pete Williams but losing via submission to an armbar in a match with Josh Barnett where the winner was to get a shot at Randy Couture’s heavyweight title. It was heavily controversial when he was cut, but he had a high price tag and has major deficiencies on the ground, but there was also a belief that his size could make him a notable attraction. He went to Pride where he had a high-profile win in a battle of the giants with Yoshihiro Takayama, winning via knockout in the first round. But he couldn’t stop takedowns and was beaten up on the ground by both Fedor Emelianenko and Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira. He also won another battle of the giants match with 6-10 former Cal Poly heavyweight Gan McGee. And in 2001, he went to a draw in an MMA fight with Aleksei Medvedev, who won a silver medal in freestyle wrestling at super heavyweight in the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. But it was when he switched to kickboxing, a sport he never did until the age of 28, that he took off. Within three years he won his first K-1 World Grand Prix, in 2005, and repeated that in 2006 and 2007, becoming the first man to win the Grand Prix three years in a row, and won it a fourth time in 2010.

WES SIMS - A 6-foot-8 protege of Mark Coleman, Sims is best known for his feud with Frank Mir early in his career. Sims was disqualified in their first meeting on June 6, 2003 for holding onto the cage and stomping the hell out of Mir, which was completely illegal. In a rematch on January 31, 2004, both men were heavily gassed in the second round when Mir knocked Sims out. Sims was cut after losing his next fight to Mike Kyle in a battle of two of the dirtiest fighters of the past decade. The fight is notable because after Sims lost, he complained of being bitten, and had teeth marks on his chest. He next moved on to train in pro wrestling, and was a finalist for the 2004 Tough Enough season that was won by Daniel Puder and featured The Miz. But he was cut before making the final eight. He’s done some low level indie pro wrestling. In 2009, he became one of two people (Jeremiah Riggs being the other) to do both Tough Enough and Ultimate Fighter, being on the heavyweight season that included Kimbo Slice, Roy Nelson and Matt Mitrione. While he was quickly eliminated from the competition via first round submission against Justin Wren, he was the guy who snuck in a cell phone, which was banned, and tweeted that Nelson beat Kimbo Slice, so the rumor got out everywhere months before the fight aired on television. Still, it didn’t stop the fight from becoming the highest rated fight ever on Spike TV. Sims last fought two years ago, losing in just 2:06 to Bobby Lashley on the January 30, 2010, Strikeforce show in Sunrise, FL, leaving him with a 22-13-1 record with two no contests. After losing, he tried to set up an angle with Lashley at the post-fight press conference, hoping it would lead to a TNA program, but neither TNA nor Lashley seemed interested.

TIM SYLVIA - A two-time UFC heavyweight champion, Sylvia has dabbed of late in pro wrestling with the Inoki Genome Federation in Japan, losing in recent months to Josh Barnett and on the New Year’s Eve show, to Jerome LeBanner. At 6-foot-8, Sylvia is the tallest champion in UFC history. Sylvia began his MMA career in 2001 at the age of 24, going 13-0 before being signed by UFC. In only his second match with the promotion, he knocked out Ricco Rodriguez on February 28, 2003, in Atlantic City, in just 3:09 to win the heavyweight title. In his first title defense, billed as a Battle of the Giants, where he knocked out “Giant” Gan McGee in 1:54 on September 26, 2003, in Las Vegas, he tested positive for Stanazolol and had to vacate the title. He failed a second test in 2004 when attempting a comeback. With the title vacant, he was scheduled to face Frank Mir, a newcomer he was expected to beat, but Mir armbarred him in just 50 seconds, breaking his forearm and winning the title. But after Mir’s career nearly ended in a motorcycle accident that left him with a broken leg, Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski battled in a feud over the title. Arlovski knocked Sylvia down and submitted him in 47 seconds on February 5, 2005. With so few good heavyweights in UFC, Sylvia earned a rematch on April 8, 2006. Arlovski knocked him down immediately, but this time Sylvia wobbled to his feet, and as Arlovski came in, Sylvia knocked him out in 2:43. Their third match, with Arlovski injured, went to a five round boring decision win for Sylvia. Sylvia was criticized for having boring fights as champion, finally losing his title on March 3, 2007, in a decision to coming out of retirement Randy Couture in one of the most memorable fights in UFC history, which still holds the all-time U.S. attendance record for MMA with 19,079 fans at the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, OH. Sylvia lost to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira via submission in a fight he was dominating, and got a ridiculous contract offer by Affliction for several hundred thousand per fight and UFC agreed to release him, happy to let him go, and he lost in 36 seconds to Fedor Emelianenko on July 19, 2008. He’s been fighting on smaller shows around the world, with an embarrassing nine second knockout to former boxing champion Ray Mercer as his most memorable fight. He’s currently 30-7 and trying to get back into UFC, but that right now doesn’t seem likely to happen.

FRANK TRIGG - A former wrestler and Olympic hopeful at the University of Oklahoma, Trigg was a national Junior College champion in 1994. Trigg started in 1997 with Steve Nelson’s USWF promotion in Amarillo, a promotion marketed locally as pro wrestling but real. He had already started MMA when he attempted to make the 2000 Olympic team at 167.5 pounds after winning the Western Regionals. He placed 5th in the nationals in 2001 in freestyle wrestling. In MMA, he was best known for his feud with Matt Hughes over the UFC welterweight title. Trigg’s gift of gab agitated Hughes, who choked him out in 3:54 on November 21, 2003 in a title match in Uncasville, CT. But after a few wins, he got a second shot on April 16, 2005, in Las Vegas, which was UFC’s first PPV since getting on Spike TV. In one of the most memorable matches in company history, Trigg kneed Hughes in the groin, unseen by the ref, and was pounding on him, on the verge of a ref stoppage. Suddenly Hughes made a superman comeback, picking Trigg up and running across the cage and powerslamming him, and then finishing him with another choke in 4:05. Trigg became a radio show host of an MMA show as well as a television announcer for a number of promotions, most notably as Michael Schiavello’s sidekick on HDNet broadcasts. Trigg worked in 2008 with TNA, first as an expert analyst which led to an alliance with Kurt Angle. His naturally arrogant personality allowed him to be a strong subtle heel commentator, and because he looked so much like Angle (who was one of Trigg’s wrestling idols), he was put in an alliance with him. He only did one major match, with A.J. Styles, which those in the company were very impressed with for his debut. But some of the crowd turned on it and had a stupid finish that led to “Fire Russo” chants-- a low blow by Trigg which led to not being called a DQ, but it being ruled a draw. Trigg was being used on and off on television, and was set for a major push with a big storyline where it would be revealed he was both Kurt Angle’s best friend and would be aiding Kurt, when there would be a storyline that Karen Angle was having an affair on Kurt. Trigg would working with Angle to find discover the culprit, only for it in the end being revealed that Trigg was the one Karen was with all along. The long-term planning of this was actually one of Vince Russo’s best storylines ever, except just as it was getting going, and Trigg was called in for the TV, Trigg said they had called him late and he had made previous plans for that week. TNA, mad because Trigg wasn’t coming, dropped him from the storyline and never used him again. Despite having great heat and being a huge critic of Dana White, the two mended fences and in 2009, Trigg was surprisingly signed for a fight with Josh Koscheck. But he was knocked out in the first round, and after a second knockout at the hands of Matt Serra on February 6, 2010, in Las Vegas, Trigg was cut. Now 39, Trigg still fights, most recently losing a split decision to Judo Jim Wallhead on 9/10 in Birmingham, England, and has a 21-9 record.

CAOL UNO - One of the lightweight pioneers, Uno grew up as a pro wrestling fan, and did a handful of matches, most notably in 2002 and 2003 with All Japan Pro Wrestling, where he formed a tag team with people like Low Ki, Keiji Muto and Kendo Ka Shin and even wrestled against the original La Parka. His highest profile pro wrestling match was his debut on the first New Year’s Eve show at the Osaka Dome on December 31, 2000, where in a prelim match Uno & Pride fighter Akira Shoji lost to Great Sasuke & Daijiro Matsui. Given his level of experience as a pro wrestler, he got very high marks for his acrobatic high-flying matches. Now 36, Uno started his MMA career in 1996 in Japan, and made his name on May 29, 1999, when he defeated Rumina Sato, then the top lightweight fighter in the world, to become the Shooto champion at 154 pounds (called welterweight at the time). Because UFC, Pancrase and Pride didn’t focus on smaller fighters, that made Uno considered the top lightweight fighter in the world at the time. He did lose a non-title match to Marcio Barbosa in 2000, but was still Shooto champion when he was brought to UFC on February 21, 2001, in a match with Jens Pulver to crown the first UFC lightweight champion. Pulver won the exciting fight via decision in Atlantic City, but the lightweight division to U.S. fans was before its time as the crowd in that era was into big guys and didn’t care about this fight. After Pulver was stripped of the title after signing with a Japanese promotion that was one-and-done, Uno was put in a tournament for the vacant title. He beat Din Thomas via decision to go to the finals, where he went to a draw with B.J. Penn (I thought Penn won the fight) on February 28, 2003, also in Atlantic City. It was another good match that the crowd didn’t care about, and instead of booking a rematch to determine the new champion, UFC made the call to just drop the division. Uno was done in UFC after being knocked out by Hermes Franca in his next fight, and fought in K-1's MMA division from 2004 to 2008. He was considered past his prime when he was given another shot in UFC in 2009, but lost twice and went to one draw in three fights before being let go. Now a featherweight, he was a regular with the struggling Dream promotion in 2011, losing via head kick to Lion Takeshi on 9/24 in his last fight, and has a 28-15-5 record.

WAYNE WEEMS - An independent MMA fighter and pro wrestler in the Midwest, Weems was on the fifth season of Ultimate Fighter in 2007, losing his first round match to Gray Maynard and never fought in UFC again.

VERNON TIGER WHITE - A longtime name in MMA, White was one of the original members of the Lion’s Den team with Guy Mezger, Frank Shamrock, Ken Shamrock, Maurice Smith and Jason DeLucia in the early days of Pancrase. Starting in 1993, just as the organization debuted, White lost seven of his first eight fights and 14 of his first 19. He lost his job with Pancrase in 1996 when Ken Shamrock and Pancrase management had their falling out, and began fighting all over the world. He lost to Kazushi Sakuraba and Allan Goes in Pride, and fought twice in UFC, notably a heavily promoted grudge match with Chuck Liddell on August 21, 2004, which he lost via first round knockout. White later fought with Shamrock’s team in the IFL and last fought on March 20, 2010, losing to Jason MacDonald, giving him a 26-34-2 record. White did one match on the April 7, 1997, episode of Raw, losing to Ken Shamrock in what was billed as a shoot fight, doing closer to a Japanese style match, in Shamrock’s WWF debut. Shamrock chose White because he trusted him to make it work since they were close. His father, Bob, pushed for Shamrock to debut against Paul Varelans, a former UFC fighter who had done some pro wrestling, and at 6-8 and 340 pounds, he figured would make a better first TV opponent and a more impressive win.
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The new Friday night wars really begin on 3/9. But there is a kick off of sorts this week, as on 3/2, FX has a two hour live UFC show from Sydney, Australia, with the second hour going against the established Smackdown on Syfy.

But it gets really heated the next week. When it comes to ratings, virtually nobody expects anything but Smackdown, with its stronger appeal to kids and older people, and being a fixture in the time slot with a reliable base audience to easily win the time slot. However, in the 18-49 age group, Ultimate Fighter numbers on Spike were usually, but not always, better than Smackdown numbers. FX has been heavily pushing Ultimate Fighter, as I’ve seen commercials all over Fox programming and on other networks for the past several weeks. The hook this year is the season will be live instead of on tape.

From 3/9 through 5/25, Friday night will feature Smackdown in its usual slot, Bellator on MTV 2 from 7-9 p.m., the live Ultimate Fighter on FX from 10-11 p.m., and Spike will be airing Best of The Ultimate Fighter from 9 p.m. to midnight. Spike has had decent success, doing at or slightly above its usual prime time numbers, in airing its old taped footage of UFC against major UFC events on the various Fox channels so far, and it wouldn’t surprise me to see steady 0.5 level ratings for that show. Spike is promoting the debut of the series around Kimbo Slice as host, talking about behind the scenes of being a participant on the show. Bellator was hovering around an 0.2 rating and 200,000 viewers on MTV2 on Saturday.

They moved from Saturday due to all the competition from UFC, Strikeforce and boxing, but moved to an even worse day with far more competition. However, Bellator will have more publicity, with constant plugs on TNA and being heavily previewed each week on Spike’s MMA Uncensored show. It should be noted that Syfy, Spike and FX all air on staggered feed, which means Ultimate Fighter airs on a three-hour tape delay on the West Coast. However, MTV 2 does not, so West Coast fans can watch Bellator from 4-6 p.m., Smackdown from 8-10 p.m. and Ultimate Fighter 10-11 p.m. with no head-to-head other than the Spike taped fights, other than the first week.

The real variable is The Ultimate Fighter on FX. It’s a long-lasting property, now the longest-lasting major sports reality show in existence, dating back to 2005. This season has a number of key changes, with it being more up to date. Instead of a season being taped for six weeks, and then well after taping was completed, being edited down and aired over 12 or 13 weeks, with things not necessarily being presented in chronological order and with the benefit in producing shows of knowing who will be the key personalities, this is a week-by-week shoot.

The fighters show up on 3/9, and there will be 16 live fights in the lightweight division in a two-hour (and I think it’s going to wind up going a lot longer than that since they are going to almost have to start taping much earlier and airing highlights of most of the fights because you can’t get 16 live fights in two hours, although they are expecting to go well past 11 p.m.) special starting at 9 p.m. The 16 winners go into the house for 12 weeks instead of three weeks. Every Friday night, the show will start with a reality show segment, all of things taped the prior week, mostly building to the live fight, or in some cases, two fights. All fights will be held in the UFC’s gym. As of right now, the public will not be allowed to attend, but media will, since unlike in the past, there is no need for secrecy of results. The last word we had, and I expect this to change for obvious reasons, is the semifinals would be on 5/25, with the winners then fighting on a live show on 6/1 from The Pearl at the Palms in Las Vegas. But that’s way too much of a risk to expect two winners to both be able to fight seven days later. I’m sure this is an experiment that will be tweaked as it happens.

In the past, from talking to TUF competitors, they usually started going insane at the four or five week mark in the house, because of being stuck there with no contact with the outside world, no TV, no radio, no Internet and nothing but training, eating and drinking. Going twice as long is likely to create more drama and insanity.

Plus, unlike in the past when the coaches would only coach, since they would have months before their next fight, the two coaches, Dominick Cruz and Urijah Faber, will be battling for the bantamweight title on 7/7 in Las Vegas. So by late April or early May, they are going to have to start very serious fight training themselves. So these are two competitors for the world title, who will be training in the same city, at the same gym. UFC has given both a place to live in Las Vegas and allowed them to bring their regular training partners to Las Vegas, so it’s not just them, but also their teams that will be there coming and going and interacting to build the fight. And keep in mind, Faber is a great salesman, and Cruz and Faber genuinely don’t get along to begin with. UFC officials feel that with 13 weeks of promotion heavily based on the coach’s personalities, that people will feel strongly at the end, and one will turn out to be a strong babyface to the public and the other a strong heel. Faber is the natural face, but in a live setting, with results of fights they coach and assorted drama, there are far too many moving parts to have any clue how either will end up. But as we’ve seen historically, at least on highly rated seasons, people believe the personalities they see on the reality show and with the exception of Michael Bisping (who was super popular coming off the show, but in later portrayals as a coach changed that viewpoint and is now one of the company’s strongest heels), those early impressions don’t change much over the years.

Bellator debuts on 3/9 with a show from Hammond, IN, at the Horseshoe Casino. The Spike web site will stream three prelim fights, while MTV airs the final four fights. The prelim fights are more loaded than in the past, featuring Sean McCorkle, a former UFC big heavyweight who beat Mark Hunt, debuting with the promotion against Richard White. Travis Wiuff, who beat Bellator’s light heavyweight champion Christian M’Pumbu in a non-title match, faces Anthony Gomez, plus the first fight in a season-long featherweight tournament has Daniel Straus, a former finalist, facing Jeremy Spoon.

The next three featherweight tournament bouts air on MTV 2-- Marlon Sandro vs Roberto Vargas, Wagnney Fabiano vs. Ronnie Mann and Alexandre Bezerra vs. Genair da Silva. The main event is a featherweight title match with champion Joe Warren defending against Pat Curran.

As far as Ultimate Fighter goes, here is the scorecard on the fighters who will be in the 16 matches on 3/9. For the most part, it’s do-or-die, however given that there will be injuries, the most impressive losers who come out unscathed will likely wind up in the house. Teams will be chosen on 3/16.

It has been since Roy Nelson and Brendan Schaub in late 2009 since a member introduced via the show has graduated into being what I’d call a significant star, and Nelson was really a ringer since he was a top star in the IFL and Affliction. Before that, you have to go back to late 2008, when Ryan Bader won, and early 2007, when Nate Diaz and Gray Maynard were on the show.

Akbarh Arreola (19-6-1): A native of Tijuana, he’s fought most of his career in Mexico, although his last fight was in Brazil. He’s been fighting since 2002, so he’s hardly a newcomer, and fought current UFC fighter Mac Danzig in 2004, losing quickly, but has a win over former UFC fighter Gabe Ruediger and in 2004 went to a draw with former UFC fighter and major independent lightweight star Antonio McKee. He also has a win over Hajime Ohara, who I’m not certain is the Japanese pro wrestler, although Ohara was living in Mexico during the years the MMA fighter of the same name was fighting in Mexico.

Erin Beach (3-1): A San Diego native coming off a win over Roscoe Jackson on the 10/22 Bellator show. He comes from the same gym as Dominick Cruz and in cases like that where the coach knows the fighter, they tend to pick them.

Jared Carlsten (3-0): A 31-year-old Eddie Bravo student, holding a brown belt. Unlike much of the rest of the cast who are either welterweights moving down, or lightweights, Carlsten in a featherweight moving up. All three of his wins came via triangles in less than 3:00, and was given the nickname “Crazy Legz,” which would be named after an old-time NFL wide receiver. Bravo once said that he had the best rubber guard in all of professional MMA.

Mike Chiesa (7-0): Chiesa is from Spokane and his last four wins, all by submission, have come in 2:13 or less. He is from Lyle Beerbohms Fancy Pants Fight Team.

Dakota Cochrane (11-2): An Omaha fighter who defeated Jamie Varner in the main event of a Titan Fighting Championships on HDNet show on 9/23, but then followed it up with a loss to unknown Ramico Blackmon. He is a training partner of Jake Ellenberger. He also has a past in gay porn.

John Cofer (7-1): A native of the Hardcore Gym in Athens, GA, which produced Forrest Griffin and Brian Bowles.

Daron Cruickshank (10-2): A fighter out of Wayne, MI, who has spent much of his career fighting in King of the Cage events.

Drew Dober (7-3): Dober, with a pro Muay Thai background, knocked out Strikeforce regular Lumumba Sayres in only 16 seconds in 2008. The Omaha native lost to Chase Hackett, who is also on this season’s cast, via decision in 2009. He also defeated Nick Nolte on a 2010 Bellator show.

Mark Glover (6-1, 1 no contest): A native of Liverpool, England who has five of his wins via submission.

Chase Hackett (4-1): Based out of Denver, Hackett has yet to face any name fighters.

Al Iaquinta (5–1-1): A 24-year-old native of New York, who trains under Matt Serra and Ray Longo. He was unbeaten before submitting to Pat Audinwood via armbar in 2:06 on 11/18. Four of his wins have been in less than 2:00.

Myles Jury (9-0): A 23-year-old from Hazel Park, MI who has the most impressive record of cast members. Not only is he undefeated in a career that dates back to 2005, but the longest anyone has lasted with him is 2:55, and four opponents haven’t gotten past the first minute. He has four knockouts and five submissions, with most of his fights coming with the King of the Cage promotion. He was supposed to be on the Lesnar/Dos Santos season last year, but suffered a serious a serious knee injury that was chronicled in an early episode of that season. He comes in as one of the favorites here.

James Krause (15-4): A 25-year-old with previous Zuffa experience, as he lost via choke to Donald Cerrone and by decision to Ricardo Lamas in 2009 on WEC shows. He also lost to Toby Imada via armbar in 2010 on a Bellator show. His other loss was to former UFC fighter Clay French on an HDNet show. He does have a win over current UFC fighter Michael Johnson, who went to the finals of a TUF show.

Jeremy Larsen (8-2, 1 no contest): A Phoenix native whose two losses came to former TUF winner Efrain Escudero and another former UFC fighter, Edgar Garcia.

Justin Lawrence (3-0): Formerly from Missouri, he now trains with the Black House team. He has a lot of experience in both boxing and kickboxing, and made his pro debut on a Strikeforce undercard in St. Louis.

Austin Lyons (9-1): A native of Cordova, TN, Lyons has seven submission wins during his career and has one undercard win on a Bellator show, plus championships in two smaller promotions.

Ali Maclean (9–5-1): A 22-year-old from Belfast, he’s the master of the North-South choke, which he’s won his last four fights with, and seven of his wins are via submission, but all of his losses are via submission.

Cristiano Marcello (12-3): A former Jiu Jitsu coach at the Chute Boxe Academy in Curitiba, Brazil (he left the school in 2009 to form his own school). Marcello, a well known Jiu Jitsu expert, fought in 2006 once in Pride losing to Mitsuhiro Ishida. Another time in Japan, while accompanying his team, he had a backstage fight with Charles “Krazy Horse” Bennett, a street fight that ended with Marcello on his back and triangle choking Bennett unconscious. He’s been fighting since 1997 and is well known in the MMA world, and likely the oldest contestant this season.

Andy Ogle (8-1): A 23-year old from Sunderland, England, who has never fought any name fighters.

Cody Pfister (6-3): A two-year veteran who has fought mainly in Texas for Shark Fights, and is from Amarillo.

Vinc Pichel (6-0): A Simi Valley, CA fighter who trains out of John McCarthy’s Ultimate Training Academy. Pichel has six knockout wins, all but one coming in the second round, including a win over former Pride fighter David Gardner.

Joey Proctor (7-1): A native of Bridgewater, MA, with no experience against name competition so far. He is a training partner of Joe Lauzon and is the lightweight champion of the local Reality Fighting promotion .

Jordan Rinaldi (5-0): A 24-year-old out of Charlotte who holds a win against last season’s TUF finalist Dennis Bermudez via choke in 2:13 back in 2010. He’s won his last four by submission, with three in the first round. He comes in as one of the favorites here.

Mike Rio (8-1): A 31-year-old out of Miami whose only loss was to former TUF winner Efrain Escudero in 2011. He has four knockouts and three submissions, with six first round finishes in his eight wins. His nickname is The Wolverine and he has a mouthpiece with fangs.

Chris Saunders (9-2): A fighter who trains out of Long Beach, CA, whose highest profile fight was a 6/23 loss to Chris Horodecki on a Bellator show. His not too original nickname is the “Southern California Kid,” although he actually comes from Montreal.

Sam Sicilia (10-0): Another member of Lyle Beerbhom’s team out of Spokane, he’s only had one fight go the distance, his debut in 2007. He’s known for knockout power and had quite a year in 2011. He won nine fights, eight in the first round and his last three wins combined have lasted 79 seconds.

Jeff Smith (9-1): A 24-year-old student of former WWF wrestler Steve Blackman out of Harrisburg, PA. Smith has fought mostly on smaller shows in Pennsylvania. Blackman’s team does very well on the regional shows in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, Virginia and DC, but Smith would be his first student to get a shot with a national promotion.

Chris Tickle (7-4): The product of Bloomington, IL, he had a wins over former UFC fighters Steve Berger and Brian Geraghty this past year, and has been fighting since 2008, with five of his wins from punches. All of his losses have come via submission.

Jon Tuck (6-0): The native of Guam has been fighting on shows on his island since 2007. There aren’t a lot of opportunities to fight there.

James Vick (4-0): A 25-year-old from Mineral Wells, TX, with three of his four wins coming in the first round. He’s only been fighting for eight months.

Johnavan Vistante Jr. (3-1): A Hawaiian native whose lone loss was to Bernardo Magalhaes, who just debuted with a loss on the UFC’s 2/15 show in Omaha. His nickname is The Immortal Warrior. Admit it, that’s at least better than The Ultimate Hulkster.

Brendan Weafer (6-3): A New York native who is cutting from welterweight to be on this show.
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They are doing another of those celebrity sumo tournaments that they do where they bring in pro wrestlers and MMA fighters and have them do shoot sumo matches. Vader, now 55, is going to be in it and he joked that he hopes he doesn’t win, because the winner of the tournament has to do a sumo match with Akebono, who is one of the all-time greats in that sport.
Terry Funk, 67, is going to be undergoing knee replacement surgery which is why he pulled out of the Toronto WrestleReunion because he’ll still be recovering. That also makes it likely that his career is really over, although Terry Funk and retirement has been a running joke for nearly 30 years. Keep in mind that when “Beyond the Mat” was filming its Funk segments 15 years ago, Funk’s doctor couldn’t understand how, even then, he was able to walk on his knees at that time and he worked and trained on them for another 15 years, including a period when he was into bicycling workouts just last year.
John Corson Jr., the son of John Zandig (John Corson Sr.), was lying on train tracks when a train ran him over in what sounded like a suicide attempt. Corson Jr.’s brother died in a 2010 suicide attempt. Corson Jr. lost his legs when the train ran over him. Corson Jr. was in incredible pain as he never lost consciousness.
There was an altercation on 2/21 at a show in Largo, FL involving Brian Knobs, 47, and New Jack, 49. Knobs came into the dressing room after the show was over and was telling a lot of the wrestlers that they didn’t know how to work and didn’t get it. He then went to New Jack in specific and told him that he didn’t know how to wrestle. New Jack punched Knobs in the face, knocking him into the wall. Knobs then came back and pulled New Jack to the ground, but New Jack got up before Knobs could, and kicked him in the face when he was down, knocking him out in front of everyone. Knobs didn’t get a lot of sympathy given his demeanor in running people down before New Jack threw the first punch.
Alan Gelogaev, the big Russian heavyweight at Oklahoma State that we’ve written about the past few weeks, which Gerald Brisco and Jim Ross have both expressed interest in, suffered a serious injury this past week and is out for the rest of the season, meaning he’ll miss the NCAA tournament. He was ranked No. 2 in the nation. The NCAA tournament, which airs on ESPN, finishes on 3/17 from the Scottrade Center in St. Louis. 70s star Larry Lane’s son Tucker Lane, the heavyweight at Nebraska, is currently ranked No. 7 in the nation.
Samuel Beckett, the famous playwright and Nobel Prize winner in literature, told a story about buying land in France in 1953, and having a cottage built for him by a Bulgarian farmer named Boris Roussimoff. Boris Roussimoff was Andre the Giant’s father. He said the two became friends and card playing buddies. Beckett said he drove a young Andre to school, which Andre didn’t like going to. Andre, when he did “The Princess Bride,” also talked about the same thing. He said he at one time in his life was driven to school by Samuel Beckett, and that he said they never talked about anything but cricket.
Indiana indie wrestler John Miller of Jeffersonville, IN, who wrestles as J-Milz for OVW, filed a lawsuit on 2/27 against Clinton Woosley, who wrestles as Guido Andretti. Miller claimed Woosley kicked him in the groin during a June match in Evansville for the Coliseum Championship Wrestling promotion, causing one of his testicles to burst. He claimed the move was not in the script of the match. The lawsuit claimed Andretti refused to accept the predetermined result of the match where Andretti was to lose, and decided to deviate from the script. Miller claimed he didn’t have health insurance and piled up $20,000 in hospital bills due to surgery to remove the damaged testicle.
Some notes on the cast of “Eastbound and Down” on HBO, which has the Ashley Schaeffer BMW dealer character modeled after Ric Flair. Danny McBride, the star of the show, as well as series co-creator Ben T. Best, as well as Will Ferrell are all huge Flair fans and love doing the character. Court Bauer is now involved with the show as well and he said Flair is the childhood hero to them and that McBride grew up in the Carolinas and religiously remembered watching Georgia Championship Wrestling as well at 6:05 p.m. every Saturday and Sunday. Ferrell, who grew up in California, said he actually became more of a fan from studying his stuff on Youtube.

Also regarding Flair, the “Fuel in a Bottle,” drink he’s going to be the pitchman for will be released in early March in the Southeast, by Coca Cola. So expect some extensive marketing to start shortly. Flair signed a ten-year deal to be the face of the brand, do public appearances, television commercials and the deal is said to be lucrative enough that he’s going to end up financially in good shape when all is said and done, even without wrestling. There are notable issues, given “Five Hour Energy,” which would be a competing brand, is one of TNA’s main sponsors, and one would think if you’ve got a product with Flair asthe pitchman, like Rent a Center with Hulk Hogan, that the natural venue to sponsor would be pro wrestling shows, TNA in specific. The drink is going to be marketed heavily to the gym crowd, with marketing that it’s not just an energy drink but each bottle of the drink will provide 25 grams of whey protein to aid in building muscle.
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