Occupy Wall Street

cunch · Post by **cunch** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:40 am

She looks like a butterface

baffled · Post by **baffled** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:49 am

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Pittsburgh

Dig the hottie in the green cap toward the front and on your left....she looks like she is struggling to get by. I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.

I like the stop rape sign myself.

Yes, I'm drunk · Post by **Yes, I'm drunk** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:16 pm

baffled wrote:
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Pittsburgh

Dig the hottie in the green cap toward the front and on your left....she looks like she is struggling to get by. I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.
I like the stop rape sign myself.

And it's too far away to tell if it says "STOP RAPE!" or "STOP. RAPE!".

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:57 pm

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.

She might be part of the 99%, but that doesn't mean daddy is.

Steggy · Post by **Steggy** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:03 pm

Howard Stern interviews some OSW's. http://www.breitbart.tv/howard-stern-ta ... allstreet/

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:04 pm

Democracy in America a few days ago on why the occupy crowd are not "the 99%".

PC Polar Circle Person · Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:59 pm

I know it is not possible, but how many hours/day do you guys think we would have to work to maintain our current living standard if we just dropped those stupid paper bills out of the equation completely?

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:02 pm

New, more sane, demands:

LIST OF PROPOSED "DEMANDS FOR CONGRESS

CONGRESS PASS HR 1489 ("RETURN TO PRUDENT BANKING ACT" http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-1489 ). THIS REINSTATES MANY PROVISIONS OF THE GLASS-STEAGALL ACT. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act --- Wiki entry summary: The repeal of provisions of the Glass–Steagall Act of 1933 by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act in 1999 effectively removed the separation that previously existed between investment banking which issued securities and commercial banks which accepted deposits. The deregulation also removed conflict of interest prohibitions between investment bankers serving as officers of commercial banks. Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011 by allowing Wall Street investment banking firms to gamble with their depositors' money that was held in commercial banks owned or created by the investment firms. Here's detail on repeal in 1999 and how it happened: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass–Steagall_Act#Repeal .

USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis in the following notable cases: (insert list of the most clear cut criminal actions). There is a pretty broad consensus that there is a clear group of people who got away with millions / billions illegally and haven't been brought to justice. Boy would this be long overdue and cathartic for millions of Americans. It would also be a shot across the bow for the financial industry. If you watch the solidly researched and awared winning documentary film "Inside Job" that was narrated by Matt Damon (pretty brave Matt!) and do other research, it wouldn't take long to develop the list.

CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations can spend as much as they want on elections. The result is that corporations can pretty much buy elections. Corporations should be highly limited in ability to contribute to political campaigns no matter what the election and no matter what the form of media. This legislation should also RE-ESTABLISH THE PUBLIC AIRWAVES IN THE U.S. SO THAT POLITICAL CANDIDATES ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME FOR FREE AT REASONABLE INTERVALS IN DAILY PROGRAMMING DURING CAMPAIGN SEASON. The same should extend to other media.

CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher...back to what they once were in the 50's and 60's.

CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected. This agency needs a large staff and needs to be well-funded. It's currently has a joke of a budget and is run by Wall St. insiders who often leave for high ticket cushy jobs with the corporations they were just regulating. Hmmm.

CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.

CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED. So, you don't get to work at the FDA for five years playing softball with Pfizer and then go to work for Pfizer making $195,000 a year. While they're at it, Congress should pass specific and effective laws to enforce strict judicial standards of conduct in matters concerning conflicts of interest. So long as judges are culled from the ranks of corporate attorneys the 1% will retain control.

ELIMINATE "PERSONHOOD" LEGAL STATUS FOR CORPORATIONS. The film "The Corporation" has a great section on how corporations won "personhood status". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SuUzmqBewg . Fast-forward to 2:20. It'll blow your mind. The 14th amendment was supposed to give equal rights to African Americans. It said you "can't deprive a person of life, liberty or property without due process of law". Corporation lawyers wanted corporations to have more power so they basically said "corporations are people." Amazingly, between 1890 and 1910 there were 307 cases brought before the court under the 14th amendment. 288 of these brought by corporations and only 19 by African Americans. 600,000 people were killed to get rights for people and then judges applied those rights to capital and property while stripping them from people. It's time to set this straight.

powerlifter54 · Post by **powerlifter54** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:26 pm

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dr-zbigniew- ... o-charity/

powerlifter54 · Post by **powerlifter54** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:27 pm

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart- ... verything/

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:36 pm

BucketHead wrote:New, more sane, demands:

A fair number of those ought to be Tea Party-friendly too.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:04 pm

It’s a den of thieves!

Occupy Wall Street protesters said yesterday that packs of brazen crooks within their ranks have been robbing their fellow demonstrators blind, making off with pricey cameras, phones and laptops -- and even a hefty bundle of donated cash and food.

“Stealing is our biggest problem at the moment,” said Nan Terrie, 18, a kitchen and legal-team volunteer from Fort Lauderdale.

“I had my Mac stolen -- that was like $5,500. Every night, something else is gone. Last night, our entire [kitchen] budget for the day was stolen, so the first thing I had to do was . . . get the message out to our supporters that we needed food!”

Crafty cat burglars sneaked into the makeshift kitchen at Zuccotti Park overnight and swiped as much as $2,500 in donated greenbacks from right under the noses of volunteers who’d fallen asleep after a long day whipping up meals for the hundreds of hungry protesters, the volunteers said.

“The worst thing is there’s people sleeping in the kitchen when they come, and they don’t even know about it! There are some really smart and sneaky thieves here,” Terrie said.

“I had umbrellas stolen, a fold-up bed I brought because my back is bad -- they took that, too!”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manh ... rGPCaZaLRK

Apparently there are still crooks on Wall Street.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:28 pm

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Pittsburgh

Dig the hottie in the green cap toward the front and on your left....she looks like she is struggling to get by. I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.

You have a keen eye for the irrelevant and/or imaginary.

Pinky · Post by **Pinky** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:36 pm

BucketHead wrote:Most economists believe this repeal directly contributed to the severity of the Financial crisis of 2007–2011

Utter nonsense.

USE CONGRESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND OVERSIGHT TO ENSURE APPROPRIATE FEDERAL AGENCIES FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law

Prosecuting criminals is good, but how is oversight from a bunch of guys who certainly receive campaign funds from Wall Street going to help?

CONGRESS ENACT LEGISLATION TO PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY BY REVERSING THE EFFECTS OF THE CITIZENS UNITED SUPREME COURT DECISION which essentially said corporations [also unions] can spend as much as they want on elections.

I like the idea of reducing the influence of corporate and union money in American politics, but I'm not sure how much McCain-Feingold really accomplished. It's also not clear that it helped the side of the aisle the occupiers would have liked. But it did restrict speech.

CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE

More uneducated nonsense.

& CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES

I agree completely. We should also close individual loop holes.

AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE.

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CONGRESS COMPLETELY REVAMP THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION and staff it at all levels with proven professionals who get the job done protecting the integrity of the marketplace so citizens and investors are both protected.

"Professionals" and "get the job done" should be standard in all parts of the government, but it's not going to happen as long as we have a Federal employee's union.

CONGRESS PASS SPECIFIC AND EFFECTIVE LAWS LIMITING THE INFLUENCE OF LOBBYISTS AND ELIMINATING THE PRACTICE OF LOBBYISTS WRITING LEGISLATION THAT ENDS UP ON THE FLOOR OF CONGRESS.

This would be great. Unfortunately, there's a mysterious cabal in DC that is sure to stop this. It's called the Senate.

CONGRESS PASSING "Revolving Door Legislation" LEGISLATION ELIMINATING THE ABILITY OF FORMER GOVERNMENT REGULATORS GOING TO WORK FOR CORPORATIONS THAT THEY ONCE REGULATED.

Now you're really not going to find "proven professionals" who are willing to work in government.

baffled · Post by **baffled** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:45 pm

Yes, I'm drunk wrote:
baffled wrote:
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Pittsburgh

Dig the hottie in the green cap toward the front and on your left....she looks like she is struggling to get by. I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.
I like the stop rape sign myself.
And it's too far away to tell if it says "STOP RAPE!" or "STOP. RAPE!".

Now it looks like it's supposed to be a bag of money, but at first I thought it was an "&". So I thought it said "STOP & RAPE".

The Venerable Bogatir X · Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:22 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:
Fat Cat wrote:Pittsburgh

Dig the hottie in the green cap toward the front and on your left....she looks like she is struggling to get by. I bet she has an iPhone and a fresh manicure.
You have a keen eye for the irrelevant and/or imaginary.

My keen eye sees a bunch of dumpy white people who, if unemployed, should be spending their time submitting their resume to every position relevant to their areas of professional expertise, attending job fairs and hopefully, interviewing. If they can't secure a job congruent with their education, they can and should do the socially responsible thing and find legitimate work to be productive. That's a far better use of time than being a protester who has likely contributed little to nothing to the world.

The gal with the 200 dollar jeans was a bonus and the 50 dollar manicure and iPhone plan is a safe assumption. There a many, many shots of the 99% protesters sporting high end cameras and brand name clothes. Their (alleged) desperation drips with the latest in hipster fashion. This is a farce, not a movement.

On a semi-related note, why, IYO, are persons of color so conspicuously absent from the protests in the continental US?

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:40 pm

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote: My keen eye sees a bunch of dumpy white people who, if unemployed, should be spending their time submitting their resume to every position relevant to their areas of professional expertise, attending job fairs and hopefully, interviewing. If they can't secure a job congruent with their education, they can and should do the socially responsible thing and find legitimate work to be productive. That's a far better use of time than being a protester who has likely contributed little to nothing to the world.

The gal with the 200 dollar jeans was a bonus and the 50 dollar manicure and iPhone plan is a safe assumption. There a many, many shots of the 99% protesters sporting high end cameras and brand name clothes. Their (alleged) desperation drips with the latest in hipster fashion. This is a farce, not a movement.

You are willfully avoiding the simplest, most elegant explanation: that this is a movement, and that it cuts across economic lines. Nobody said that just because one is personally affluent that they cannot work to improve the state of affairs.

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:On a semi-related note, why, IYO, are persons of color so conspicuously absent from the protests in the continental US?

Is this established as fact or more speculation? I am rather far removed from the white world.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:45 pm

I've noticed the same thing. Pretty much lilly white.

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:50 pm

Allow me then to point out that according to the 2010 census, 72.4% of the US population is white. That might be a contributing factor.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:52 pm

Fat Cat wrote:Allow me then to point out that according to the 2010 census, 72.4% of the US population is white. That might be a contributing factor.

Check out pictures of the DC protest. DC is majority black.

The Venerable Bogatir X · Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:57 pm

Fat Cat wrote:
High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote: My keen eye sees a bunch of dumpy white people who, if unemployed, should be spending their time submitting their resume to every position relevant to their areas of professional expertise, attending job fairs and hopefully, interviewing. If they can't secure a job congruent with their education, they can and should do the socially responsible thing and find legitimate work to be productive. That's a far better use of time than being a protester who has likely contributed little to nothing to the world.

The gal with the 200 dollar jeans was a bonus and the 50 dollar manicure and iPhone plan is a safe assumption. There a many, many shots of the 99% protesters sporting high end cameras and brand name clothes. Their (alleged) desperation drips with the latest in hipster fashion. This is a farce, not a movement.
You are willfully avoiding the simplest, most elegant explanation: that this is a movement, and that it cuts across economic lines. Nobody said that just because one is personally affluent that they cannot work to improve the state of affairs.

High Velocity Lie-Nap! wrote:On a semi-related note, why, IYO, are persons of color so conspicuously absent from the protests in the continental US?
Is this established as fact or more speculation? I am rather far removed from the white world.

Tell you what....you might, might have a movement when the high temp on Wall Street is 40 degrees and you still have walls of protesters. Who is taking PTO to attend these demonstrations? No one, that's who. Those working are busy with deliverables and staying necessary/relevant. Yes, 200 buck jeans gal might be a trust fund baby or a young divorcee of a financial services officer who is lashing out, but my gut says this 'movement' is going to be a punch line to 2011 once the weather gets cold. Hipsters are a soft lot.

WRT persons of color: look at any set of pics from any CONUS city where there is a 99% protest and notice their collective absence. It's impossible to not see it.

Time will tell that this 'movement' is at best, a joke.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:06 am

I'm waiting for Occupy Saginaw, Occupy Detroit, Occupy Camden, and Occupy East St. Louis.

The Venerable Bogatir X · Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:25 am

Turdacious wrote:I'm waiting for Occupy Saginaw, Occupy Detroit, Occupy Camden, and Occupy East St. Louis.

Occupy Gary, Indiana! Occupy Compton, California!

CharlieBob · Post by **CharlieBob** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:07 am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 45362.html

Intriguing: "Our research shows clearly that the movement doesn't represent unemployed America and is not ideologically diverse. Rather, it comprises an unrepresentative segment of the electorate that believes in radical redistribution of wealth, civil disobedience and, in some instances, violence. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, virtually all (98%) say they would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and nearly one-third (31%) would support violence to advance their agenda... The vast majority of demonstrators are actually employed, and the proportion of protesters unemployed (15%) is within single digits of the national unemployment rate (9.1%)."

Fat Cat · Post by **Fat Cat** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:12 am

WSJ is owned by Rupert Murdoch so consider taking that with an ocean of salt. It's pretty hard to make the case that this movement is representative of such a narrow demographic when there are similar protests in 200 cities around the world. Keep trying though, you may make a useful puppet yet.

Umm, you're not really surprised that the WALL STREET JOURNAL doesn't like the Occupy Wall Street movement are you? *sigh*

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