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Terry B. wrote:Why aren't more people being charged?
I'm not certain but I think that first they have to establish a criminal verdict, then they can go after accessories to the crime.
It's generally not illegal to see a crime and do nothing. Unless you have a Duty to Act (counselors, law enforcement) or you perjure yourself or you actually are an accessory (if Sandusky had a pimp) then you're not at risk. Double-H can weigh in with his lawyering. But then there is the court of public opinion. In a small town such as this, that is its own punishment.

I'm looking forward to the Louis Freeh investigation results. They just need to keep spading the soil here until it has all been turned over and exposed.
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A former Penn State assistant coach who was a central figure in Joe Paterno's downfall testified Tuesday that he heard a "skin-on-skin smacking sound" in a campus locker room one night in 2001 and saw something that was "more than my brain could handle."

Jerry Sandusky was standing naked in the showers behind a boy, slowly moving his hips, Mike McQueary told the jury.

McQueary, one of the star witnesses in the child sexual abuse case against Sandusky, said he had no doubt he was witnessing anal sex. He testified that he slammed his locker shut loudly as if to say, "Someone's here! Break it up!"
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The Pedobear has come to Centre County. I almost wished I'd driven up to the courthouse to see him. Circus of the absurd.

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nafod wrote:The Pedobear has come to Centre County. I almost wished I'd driven up to the courthouse to see him. Circus of the absurd.
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I shit you not.

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Will Sandusky take the stand? Will his defense team produce the victim Mike McQueary is said to have witnessed Sandusky raping 11 years ago, whom prosecutors have never identified? Is Pedobear's arrival in Bellefonte an indication he might be called to testify? So many questions.

Update (12:26 p.m.): Pedobear holds a press conference:
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/20/r ... s-defense/
Republican state senator’s stall tactics helped Jerry Sandusky’s defense
By Tara Murtha
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 13:23 EDT

While entire world may seem against Jerry Sandusky, the former Penn State football coach on trial for molesting 10 boys over the course of 15 years still has some very important people on his side: the slow-moving legislators of Pennsylvania.

Despite efforts by some legislators in the wake of the Sandusky allegations, Pennsylvania remains the only state in the country that doesn’t allow experts to testify for the prosecution in sex crimes — a situation that stands to benefit Sandusky. Generally ignored by the media and the public (except for a short list of lawmakers and advocates who were feverishly working to fix it) this quirk of state law garnered plenty of attention after Judge John Cleland ruled last week that Sandusky would be allowed to put a psychiatric expert on the stand in his defense.

Cleland’s ruling was hailed “a win” for Sandusky in the press — and with good reason.

Sandusky’s defense pivots on psychiatrist Dr. Elliot Atkins, who testified on Tuesday that Sandusky wrote the “creepy” letters to alleged victims and engaged them in “soap battles” in the shower not because he’s a pedophile, but because he suffers from Histrionic Personality Disorder. That esoteric diagnosis, incidentally, is scheduled to be eliminated from the next edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). Prosecutors called Philadelphia psychiatrist John Sebastian O’Brien II to rebut Atkins’s testimony.

Atkins’ job was to convince the jury that, while Sandusky’s behavior doesn’t conform to general expectations of a 68-year-old authority figure, they are typical of a man suffering from a problem that the average juror is not expected to readily understand.

By contrast, the prosecution is not allowed to call an expert to testify that, while some of the behaviors of the eight men who testified against Sandusky may not conform to common expectations of childhood sex abuse victims, research shows those behaviors — not telling anyone for years, keeping social appointments with an assailant after alleged attacks, holding back details in initial reports to authorities — are typical of victims of childhood sex abuse, and especially of young boys abused by authority figures.

“[It's] patently unfair to allow expert testimony on behalf of the defendant and deny the prosecution from enlightening the jury through expert testimony of victim behavior,” says Scott Burns, Executive Director of the National District Attorneys Association. “It severely disadvantages the prosecution.”

Current Pennsylvania law traces back to a 1991 case in which the conviction of a man accused of raping his stepdaughter was overturned based in part on the admission of expert testimony. The judges ruled expert testimony inadmissible because victim behavior is “common knowledge.”

Case after case proves that assertion false.

“We’ve had several cases where juries have acquitted serial rapists because they felt the victims’ behavior after the assault was counterintuitive,” Deborah Harley, chief of the Family Violence and Sexual Assault Unit of the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office, told Philadelphia Weekly last year. “One such example would be Jeffrey Marsalis.”

Marsalis, dubbed The Match.com Rapist, was charged with ten incidents of rape and assorted charges in two separate Pennsylvania trials. Though he was convicted of a couple of lesser charges, he found not guilty of rape.

“[The jury was] not educated on victim behavior. That was a huge, huge obstacle,” said Harley. Marsalis was eventually convicted in the rape of a co-worker in Idaho in 2009.

It was the Marsalis case that inspired state Rep. Cherelle Parker (D-Philadelphia) to first introduce a bill to allow expert testimony about sexual assault victims’ behavior back in 2007. After versions died in committee twice, HB 1264 — co-sponsored by Rep. Kate Harper (R-Montgomery) — finally passed the Pennsylvania House unanimously last June.

With a 60-day enactment clause, the law could easily have been effect in time for the Sandusky trial, the landmark Philadelphia priest trial and all the other sexual assault cases prosecuted in the last year that didn’t receive media attention.

Yet, after sailing through the House, it stalled in the lap of Republican state Senator Stewart Greenleaf, chair of the Judiciary Committee.

“Two things we’re looking at,” said Greenleaf when asked about the delay in an interview last December. “How other states address these issues, and two, what other states have it?”

The answer, as discussed ad infinitum since the bill’s introduction five years ago and in two recent public hearings, was that all of them allow expert testimony about victim behavior — except Pennsylvania.

In February 2012, Sarah Ganim, the journalist that broke the Sandusky scandal, reported that the bill remained stalled because “Greenleaf wants to make sure that any bill allows for the defense to bring an expert into court, too.”

Last week, as the Sandusky trial was already underway, the bill finally passed the Senate. It now awaits concurrence and sign-off by Republican Governor Tom Corbett, who touted his aggressive stance on child sex abuse in his previous role of Attorney General — where he oversaw the remarkably slow-moving Sandusky investigation.

The bill will again die if not signed by fall.

Meanwhile, there’s another problem with Pennsylvania law that biases jurors against sex crime victims. A line buried in jury instructions formally advises jurors with false information. From 4.13A:

Failure to Make Prompt Complaint in Certain Sexual Offenses: The evidence of [name of victim]‘s [failure to complain] [delay in making a complaint] does not necessarily make [his] [her] testimony unreliable, but may remove from it the assurance of reliability accompanying the prompt complaint or outcry that the victim of a crime such as this would ordinarily be expected to make.

Prosecution can request the judge skip this section, so it is unclear if Judge Cleland will read this line to the Sandusky jurors when the defense rests and the jury is formally charged.


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Lawyers for one of Jerry Sandusky's adopted sons said the man has told authorities the former Penn State assistant football coach abused him.
The statement was issued after jurors in the former coach's child sex abuse trial began deliberating 48 charges against him.
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If convicted, Sandusky should be sent to prison on a horse farm in Washington.
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Seen at courthouse this morning

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LMFAO

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Guilty on all charges.
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My mistake 45 of 48 charges.
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I came close to driving over to the courthouse tonight when it looked like they were going to reach a verdict.


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MarcoFP wrote:Nigga gonna die in prison.
Shanking or of old age.
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Fat Cat wrote:My mistake 45 of 48 charges.
He got off on three charges; somebody will be getting off every time he gets in the shower. Balance will pertain.
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Fat Cat wrote:My mistake 45 of 48 charges.
He got off on three charges; somebody will be getting off every time he gets in the shower. Balance will pertain.

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He's on suicide watch - I really hope they do their job because he needs to experience prison.

Beyond that, I think this is an important message to all child rapists out there - if you are no longer winning football games, your university president, AD and entire coaching staff will no long cover up and hide your hideous actions for you.
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Terry B. wrote:He's on suicide watch - I really hope they do their job because he needs to experience prison.

Beyond that, I think this is an important message to all child rapists out there - if you are no longer winning football games, your university president, AD and entire coaching staff will no long cover up and hide your hideous actions for you.
They did for 15 years, while all claiming that PSU met a higher standard for college athletes-- if there's any justice, they will join him where he's going.
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can't we just let this slide?

I mean, he WAS a good football coach
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‘Hey, Teacher, Leave Those Kids Alone’: Sandusky Serenaded By Inmates


BELLEFONTE, Pa. (CBS Cleveland) - Jerry Sandusky was reportedly taunted by other inmates in song at the Centre County Correctional Facility when he was housed there this past December.

An inmate who identified himself only as “Josh” told The Daily that he and other prisoners sang well-known lyrics from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” to Sandusky.

“At night, we were singing ‘Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone,’” Josh was quoted as saying.


Though Sandusky was held alone in a separate cell reportedly designated for sex offenders and those with mental illnesses, he was still visible to other inmates, who mocked him with their singing when the lights went out for the night, The Daily reported.

Sandusky, the former assistant coach of Penn State’s celebrated football team, was found guilty of 45 counts of child sex abuse for his inappropriate sexual actions with 10 known victims over the past 15 years.

He was sent to the Centre County Correctional Facility in December of last year when several counts were added to the charges he was facing at the time.

After being found guilty last Friday, Sandusky was sent back to the same facility.

The minimum sentence Sandusky is said to face for his crimes will likely add up to a life sentence for the disgraced coach.
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Fat Cat wrote:‘Hey, Teacher, Leave Those Kids Alone’: Sandusky Serenaded By Inmates


BELLEFONTE, Pa. (CBS Cleveland) - Jerry Sandusky was reportedly taunted by other inmates in song at the Centre County Correctional Facility when he was housed there this past December.

An inmate who identified himself only as “Josh” told The Daily that he and other prisoners sang well-known lyrics from Pink Floyd’s “The Wall” to Sandusky.

“At night, we were singing ‘Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone,’” Josh was quoted as saying.
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Former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, convicted of 45 counts of child sexual abuse, could still profit from his public pension.

Sandusky stands to collect $58,898 each year, according to PennLive.com, because the crimes he committed are not included on the list of 22 that would force him to give up his benefits.

Pennsylvania's public officials or retirees are required to forfeit their pensions under the State Employees' Retirement System (SERS) if they commit "certain crimes that breach the member's duty of faithful and honest public service." The list does not include sex crimes.
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Terry B. wrote:Why aren't more people being charged?
I'm not certain but I think that first they have to establish a criminal verdict, then they can go after accessories to the crime.
It's generally not illegal to see a crime and do nothing. Unless you have a Duty to Act (counselors, law enforcement) or you perjure yourself or you actually are an accessory (if Sandusky had a pimp) then you're not at risk. Double-H can weigh in with his lawyering. But then there is the court of public opinion. In a small town such as this, that is its own punishment.

I'm looking forward to the Louis Freeh investigation results. They just need to keep spading the soil here until it has all been turned over and exposed.
Even so, in working for a school, the other witnesses would be educators with a mandate to report. I think.
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The existence of the e-mail correspondence was first reported by CNN. The person familiar with aspects of the Freeh investigation was not identified because the investigation is continuing and no one is authorized to speak about it.

The Penn State e-mails, according to the person with knowledge of the Freeh investigation, indicate that Spanier, Curley and Schultz seemed at one point to favor reporting the assault to the state child welfare authorities, recognizing that if they did not, they could later be vulnerable to charges that they had failed to act.

But in one e-mail, Curley wrote that after talking to Paterno, he no longer wanted to go forward with that plan.

In the end, the university told no one other than officials with Second Mile, the charity for disadvantaged youngsters founded by Sandusky.

The e-mails suggest that the officials decided that Sandusky could be dealt with by barring him from taking children onto the campus and encouraging him to seek professional help.

Not reporting the accusation to the authorities, the men determined, was the more “humane” way to deal with Sandusky, according to the e-mails.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/sport ... ef=general

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