Lance concedes, likely to lose titles...

Herv100 · Post by **Herv100** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:45 am

http://espn.go.com/olympics/cycling/sto ... ing-career

I don't really give a shit about him doping or competitive bikecycle riding in general. But nobody likes a dirty liar, especially when they happen to be a prick as well.
If he really had a ball, he would have come clean and say Fuck yeah I did it, everyone does, so fuck you!

Therefore...

Testiclaw · Post by **Testiclaw** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:50 am

If I am understanding this correctly: he hasn't failed a single test that they, or any other governing body, has administered, and he isn't conceding to using drugs, only to stop trying to appeal their "findings".

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:56 am

Testiclaw wrote:If I am understanding this correctly: he hasn't failed a single test that they, or any other governing body, has administered, and he isn't conceding to using drugs, only to stop trying to appeal their "findings".

He has failed tests, IIRC

Testiclaw · Post by **Testiclaw** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:57 am

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Testiclaw wrote:If I am understanding this correctly: he hasn't failed a single test that they, or any other governing body, has administered, and he isn't conceding to using drugs, only to stop trying to appeal their "findings".
He has failed tests, IIRC

Ah snaps, that changes everything then.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:03 am

The shitty thing is that victory in the sport requires both doping and then lying about it. That's some WAR GAMES shit right there.

Jonny Canuck · Post by **Jonny Canuck** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:29 am

This is nut. I bet he didn't have the balls to keep fighting.

But seriously, we shouldn't be making fun of cancer survivors. He has made a ton of cash off of those trophies and banged a bunch of bitches but his Livestrong Legacy will continue on. For that I admire him.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:51 am

It was the only move left on the board.

Frankly, the fact he never admitted may be spiteful but it is also brilliant. His statement that he "never had an unfair advantage" is absolutley unassailably true.

I tip may hat to that bastard.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:25 pm

Blaidd Drwg wrote:It was the only move left on the board.

Frankly, the fact he never admitted may be spiteful but it is also brilliant. His statement that he "never had an unfair advantage" is absolutley unassailably true.

I tip may hat to that bastard.

Indeed, his FU-fu is strong. Take that, USADA

dead man walking · Post by **dead man walking** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:40 pm

the cycling people (uci) may assert they have authority, not the usada, which seems to have stepped in arbitrarily, so i'm not sure we've heard the last of this pissing contest.

apparently the usada plans to strip him of all tour victories, even though they have a statute of limitations that goes back 8 years.

somewhere i heard or read that usada claims they have testimony from 10 former teammates and evidence of two failed tests, in 04 and 10.

i expect stuff will continue to leak out

buckethead · Post by **buckethead** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:10 pm

Jonny Canuck wrote:I bet he didn't have the balls to keep fighting.

This is a medical fact

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:15 pm

BucketHead wrote:
Jonny Canuck wrote:I bet he didn't have the balls to keep fighting.
This is a medical fact

tough old man · Post by **tough old man** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:18 pm

Armstrong isn't the only one challenging the USADA and its case. The International Cycling Union -- whom the Texan has said should be the arbiter in his case -- has opposed the American agency's actions by claiming it has jurisdiction. That position has been recently backed by USA Cycling, the official cycling organization recognized by the U.S. Olympic Committee.

Sparks, the U.S. federal judge, acknowledged "the appearance of conflict on the part of both organizations creates doubt the charges against Armstrong would receive fair consideration in either forum." But that doesn't mean U.S. courts should intervene, the judge said, adding "these matters should be resolved internally, by the parties most affected."

"If these bodies wish to damage the image of their sport through bitter infighting, they will have to do so without the involvement of the United States courts," Sparks said.

DrDonkeyLove · Post by **DrDonkeyLove** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:00 pm

How can the USADA strip someone of titles they won in a FRENCH event in FRANCE? Seems as if le frogs might object to Uncle Sam interfering in their event.

dead man walking · Post by **dead man walking** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:08 pm

the cycling guys might object, as you note. uci (the c stands for cycling) has issued a cautious statement.

at the same time, many frogs appear happy for lance to be expunged.

a public hearing would have been entertaining, in the manner of a soap opera. rehashing tests. hincapie pointing the finger. lance avoids all that.

Yes I Have Balls · Post by **Yes I Have Balls** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:12 pm

Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance. They were gonna get called up one by one to detail the multiple instances they are saw Lance use, what he used, what the details were.

The Armstrong camp decided to concede the fight at that point.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:16 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance. They were gonna get called up one by one to detail the multiple instances they are saw Lance use, what he used, what the details were.

The Armstrong camp decided to concede the fight at that point.

This is what happened. Of course, the regulators may publish a report anyway.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:24 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance. They were gonna get called up one by one to detail the multiple instances they are saw Lance use, what he used, what the details were.

The Armstrong camp decided to concede the fight at that point.

I don't follow the sport of riding a bicycle, but how big of a dick to you have to be to your teammates that TEN of them are willing to throw you under the bus?

What's the backstory there?

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:28 pm

and some fellas on another forum had an excellent point, this witch hunting and title stripping after teh fact is a great reason to keep your sport (eg powerlifting) OUT of the mainstream

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:39 pm

Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance.

Or were given an incentive to testify against Lance in exchange for some benefit (like lessening their suspension for doping)-- it all depends on which team of attorneys you listen too.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:56 pm

protobuilder wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance. They were gonna get called up one by one to detail the multiple instances they are saw Lance use, what he used, what the details were.

The Armstrong camp decided to concede the fight at that point.
I don't follow the sport of riding a bicycle, but how big of a dick to you have to be to your teammates that TEN of them are willing to throw you under the bus?

What's the backstory there?

I think at least part of the backstory is

1) Lance is a TOTALWAR dick in teh way Darf can't even imagine.

2) Cycling is broken. imagine if multiply PL decided it needed to "clean up"...imagine the impossibility of that, imagine knowing every single muthrfucker out there was going to have to admit that the sport is built in part through PED's...some factions will want to give in, soem will pray for business as usual. some will wait for it to blow over....

Doesn't matter who you talk to, Lance doped, he knows it, everyone else knows it and the fact is everyone he competed with did as well. He had no unfair advantage and his move can be seen as one part brilliance and two parts spite and one massive dose of FUCK YOU to UCI and WADA trying to fight out who really has jurisdiction on stripping titles.

I have to applaud LA for his intellectual consistency. He's right. Legacy be damned. No one in this generation of cyclists should ever doubt who was the best of the best.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:58 pm

They all know he beat them on an unevenly even playing field.

Crap like this is why bicycling is no longer enjoyable for me.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:00 pm

protobuilder wrote:They all know he beat them on an unevenly even playing field.

Crap like this is why bicycling is no longer enjoyable for me.

How is it different from PL?

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:10 pm

Yeah this was a smart move on Lance's part. I'm cracking up at all the faggots talking about throwing away their yellow wristbands.

nafod · Post by **nafod** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:57 pm

Grandpa's Spells wrote:
Yes I Have Balls wrote:Apparently the usada has 10+ former teammates that are unwilling to lie to protect Lance. They were gonna get called up one by one to detail the multiple instances they are saw Lance use, what he used, what the details were.

The Armstrong camp decided to concede the fight at that point.
This is what happened. Of course, the regulators may publish a report anyway.

Where it will follow Eric Estrada's career into a black hole.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:01 pm

I'm interested to see if UCI decides to say fuck you to USADA, "You have no power to strip titles." Given Lance's cozy relationship in the past with UCI, this is a possibility.

Which brings much joy to my hear to see:

Lance taken down a peg but belligerent,

UCI saying fuck along to WADA and USADA, and

Tygert/Pound et all looking like the sanctimonious twats they have always been.

IGX

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