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Slipped into the Agricultural Appropriations Bill, which passed through Congress last week, was a small provision that’s a big deal for Monsanto and its opponents. The provision protects genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks and has thus been dubbed the “Monsanto Protection Act” by activists who oppose the biotech giant. President Barack Obama signed the spending bill, including the provision, into law on Tuesday
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/how_the ... _into_law/
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I don't click links but, what's the problem? This is how the system works. The Presidnet, funded by corporations, appoints corporate executives to cabinet positions. Those corporations then submit draft rules and regulations and draft legislation to Congress and to the administrative agencies through their lobbyists. Those things are then enacted into law by Congressmen who are also funded by those corporations. Shareholders and congressmen get wealthy.

This is the American way.

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protobuilder wrote:I don't click links but, what's the problem? This is how the system works. The Presidnet, funded by corporations, appoints corporate executives to cabinet positions. Those corporations then submit draft rules and regulations and draft legislation to Congress and to the administrative agencies through their lobbyists. Those things are then enacted into law by Congressmen who are also funded by those corporations. Shareholders and congressmen get wealthy.

This is the American way.

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Turdacious wrote:
Slipped into the Agricultural Appropriations Bill, which passed through Congress last week, was a small provision that’s a big deal for Monsanto and its opponents. The provision protects genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks and has thus been dubbed the “Monsanto Protection Act” by activists who oppose the biotech giant. President Barack Obama signed the spending bill, including the provision, into law on Tuesday
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/how_the ... _into_law/
I have a hard time seeing that one surviving a Supreme Court test. At the same time, genetically modified foods are going to be what allows us to feed the Earth.

Problem with anything like that, is that you can never, ever prove them safe. You can only try to prove them unsafe and fail, and then mistakenly conflate that with having proved it safe.

The man who can genetically modify brussel sprouts to make them taste like steak will be a rich man.
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nafod wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Slipped into the Agricultural Appropriations Bill, which passed through Congress last week, was a small provision that’s a big deal for Monsanto and its opponents. The provision protects genetically modified seeds from litigation in the face of health risks and has thus been dubbed the “Monsanto Protection Act” by activists who oppose the biotech giant. President Barack Obama signed the spending bill, including the provision, into law on Tuesday
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/how_the ... _into_law/
I have a hard time seeing that one surviving a Supreme Court test.
IMHO the only way it will get there is if the 9th Circuit rules on it.
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One of the rider’s biggest supporters was Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who worked with Monsanto to craft the language in the bill.

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Stillwater wrote:One of the rider’s biggest supporters was Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who worked with Monsanto to craft the language in the bill.

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The guy looks like a raving maniac in his hand-picked press pic. Imagine what a weirdo he is in real life. Who elects these freaks and why?


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This is brilliant - Monsanto should be discussed in B-schools throughout the world.

Fund a senate campaign in your home state then work with him when he is in office to write a bill that will be millions of dollars in your pocket and removes the possibility of federal regulation or legal liability. Then, when the Appropriations Committee is run by a senator who doesn't seem to have a clue, push the bill forward and be sure that the President signs it on a day when the public and media are focusing on another issue.

Besides, they have a former exec heading the FDA? Even if you hate what they have done, their CEO deserves an eight-figure bonus this year.
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Terry B. wrote:Then, when the Appropriations Committee is run by a senator who doesn't seem to have a clue, push the bill forward and be sure that the President signs it on a day when the public and media are focusing on another issue.
10-1 Mikulski got something out of it.
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Turdacious wrote:
Terry B. wrote:Then, when the Appropriations Committee is run by a senator who doesn't seem to have a clue, push the bill forward and be sure that the President signs it on a day when the public and media are focusing on another issue.
10-1 Mikulski got something out of it.
You think? She is playing the "I have no idea what's even in these things" cards with the rest of the Dems.
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Terry B. wrote:
Turdacious wrote:
Terry B. wrote:Then, when the Appropriations Committee is run by a senator who doesn't seem to have a clue, push the bill forward and be sure that the President signs it on a day when the public and media are focusing on another issue.
10-1 Mikulski got something out of it.
You think? She is playing the "I have no idea what's even in these things" cards with the rest of the Dems.
Of course she is, and she'll get away with it.
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10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
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baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
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Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
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baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
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Stillwater wrote:One of the rider’s biggest supporters was Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), who worked with Monsanto to craft the language in the bill.

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Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
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baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
Not bad. The thing is that West actually accomplished a lot before moving into this state in his life.

I was thinking of the entire 2012-2013 Lakers but you can't equate a team with an individual like that. It needs to be somebody who was the top pick, brought in to save a franchise but disappointed all but his most fervent supporters. Of course, there was no Kevin Durant or MJ lurking a few picks back so I am stick.

Perhaps Mike D'Antoni replacing Brown this season?
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Fuck, I've been eating genetically mutated oatmeal
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Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
Not bad. The thing is that West actually accomplished a lot before moving into this state in his life.

I was thinking of the entire 2012-2013 Lakers but you can't equate a team with an individual like that. It needs to be somebody who was the top pick, brought in to save a franchise but disappointed all but his most fervent supporters. Of course, there was no Kevin Durant or MJ lurking a few picks back so I am stick.

Perhaps Mike D'Antoni replacing Brown this season?
I was thinking Kwame Brown. He's like Kwame Brown. Someone thought he had potential, but it turned out he was useless. Now, everyone is stubborn enough to think he's still worth a gamble, but nobody's happy when the experiment is over.
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baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
Not bad. The thing is that West actually accomplished a lot before moving into this state in his life.

I was thinking of the entire 2012-2013 Lakers but you can't equate a team with an individual like that. It needs to be somebody who was the top pick, brought in to save a franchise but disappointed all but his most fervent supporters. Of course, there was no Kevin Durant or MJ lurking a few picks back so I am stick.

Perhaps Mike D'Antoni replacing Brown this season?
I was thinking Kwame Brown. He's like Kwame Brown. Someone thought he had potential, but it turned out he was useless. Now, everyone is stubborn enough to think he's still worth a gamble, but nobody's happy when the experiment is over.
That works...on several levels, actually. Let me play around with that for a few days and get back to you.
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Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
Not bad. The thing is that West actually accomplished a lot before moving into this state in his life.

I was thinking of the entire 2012-2013 Lakers but you can't equate a team with an individual like that. It needs to be somebody who was the top pick, brought in to save a franchise but disappointed all but his most fervent supporters. Of course, there was no Kevin Durant or MJ lurking a few picks back so I am stick.

Perhaps Mike D'Antoni replacing Brown this season?
I was thinking Kwame Brown. He's like Kwame Brown. Someone thought he had potential, but it turned out he was useless. Now, everyone is stubborn enough to think he's still worth a gamble, but nobody's happy when the experiment is over.
That works...on several levels, actually. Let me play around with that for a few days and get back to you.
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protobuilder wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
baffled wrote:10-1 odds is pretty long. I'd think it would be something more like 3-2 or even money.
Nobody would even take the odds - of course she got something.

What does anybody think Obama is getting out of it?
About $750k per speaking engagement when his term runs out?
I thought of that and a nice donation for his Presidential library.

Trying to think of a sports analogy for the guy.
I got it. He doesn't really do anything, but people look to him for some sort of expertise. He's paid well, possibly too well, possibly not well enough, but nobody's sorry for him because he's still paid more than nearly everyone else.

He's like Jerry West. Except everyone loves Jerry West.
Not bad. The thing is that West actually accomplished a lot before moving into this state in his life.

I was thinking of the entire 2012-2013 Lakers but you can't equate a team with an individual like that. It needs to be somebody who was the top pick, brought in to save a franchise but disappointed all but his most fervent supporters. Of course, there was no Kevin Durant or MJ lurking a few picks back so I am stick.

Perhaps Mike D'Antoni replacing Brown this season?
I was thinking Kwame Brown. He's like Kwame Brown. Someone thought he had potential, but it turned out he was useless. Now, everyone is stubborn enough to think he's still worth a gamble, but nobody's happy when the experiment is over.
That works...on several levels, actually. Let me play around with that for a few days and get back to you.
I don't follow college sportsmen but I want in on this action!
Kwame actually works quite well. Drafted to go to Washington as an unproven potential talent. The place was a fair bit of a mess when he arrived and expectations were that he would be a savior of some kind but it was quickly realized that he was in over his head. Perhaps the only thing that keeps people from being totally despondent over wasting a pick on him were that there weren't a lot of good alternatives out there. In the end, not even supporters are pleased.
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I feel like this has been some of my best work
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