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protobuilder wrote:

johno wrote:It's a Scylla/Charybdis

UGH I hate when people say that.

It's pompous.

Never say it again.

BucketHead wrote:I agree. Anyone on psychotropic drugs should not be allowed to own/operate a firearm

Sua Sponte wrote:When it comes to mental illness, there really is a clash of visions. A dear friend has a son who's mentally ill. She, unfortunately, lives in the state of WA. In the fine state of WA, a child may refuse to take medication prescribed by a board certified psychiatrist at the ripe age of 13. He can't vote, he can't drink, he can't do much of anything as a minor. Yet, he's deemed capable of making such decisions on his own. Trouble is that he's knocked the shit out of her many times, and arrested a few times more, up to and including a felony domestic assault charge. Yet, he may still choose not to take his meds and, as a minor, does not see much in the way of punishment for the convictions. As a matter of fact, he's released back to her, into the same house, where he is a repeat offender, at will. The state support is in the form of social workers, the state social worker being the dumbest and most incompetent form of life known to man, who make very sure that he, the convicted felon, is never hurt by her. They investigate with vigor any of the tens of proven false claims made by him against her about him being beaten. So she fears defending herself. She's pre-emptive now about calling the police, who deride her about the innumerable calls. When he is arrested and convicted, his "punishment" has her carting him around to classes that have no foundation in proven efficacy, in the process making it extraordinarily difficult for her to hold a job.

If she crosses the border into OR everything changes. There, a child that behaves in such a way, with such violence, is placed into state paid residence care-where a battery of psychiatrists and psychologists said my friend's son should be. In WA, the only such help is available if the person is arrested and convicted, and the judge orders it. And, in OR, or a convicted violent offender 13 year old does not get to decide if he chooses to take his meds or not.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:
I don't think it's too dissimilar here in NY from WA. I know for a fact that a parent is responsible for the actions of a 16 y.o. but can't force him/her to do a damn thing. I know a family with a mentally disturbed kid who they managed to get put away for a couple of days here and there for his own safety, but nothing more than that. In fact, my city has the only state run adolescent psychiatric complex within hundreds of miles - and Cuomo is closing it (after he illegally took our guns of coarse).

I wonder what Adam Lanza's mother went through in CT. From what we think we know, she was a careless bitch, but we only know what the media told us. This poor mother in WA sounds like she has great chance to become a murder statistic while her kid gets life in the joint and the state authorities continue to enjoy high paying, low stress lifestyles. Truly the system is torturing her.

DARTH wrote:You mean she wants to remove the good kid for the troubled rape baby?

Sympathy for her is gone, baby gone.

I hate shit fucks who's actions punish the good for a broken toy that really sounds like he needs a stomp in the back of the knees to drive him to the ground and a 9mm to the back of the head to shut his shit down.

People used to have "hunting accidents" with such deficient offspring all the time.

Turdacious wrote:Making it easier for a woman in a tough spot to put a child up for adoption would go a long way to helping this problem.

DARTH wrote:You mean she wants to remove the good kid for the troubled rape baby?

Sympathy for her is gone, baby gone.

I hate shit fucks who's actions punish the good for a broken toy that really sounds like he needs a stomp in the back of the knees to drive him to the ground and a 9mm to the back of the head to shut his shit down.

People used to have "hunting accidents" with such deficient offspring all the time.

BucketHead wrote:I agree. Anyone on psychotropic drugs should not be allowed to own/operate a firearm

Terry B. wrote:

BucketHead wrote:I agree. Anyone on psychotropic drugs should not be allowed to own/operate a firearm

How would this be accomplished? Perhaps the establishment of a National Registry that tracks ownership and movement of all firearms cross-checked by a new, federal agency with an itemized list of prescription medications every person in the country is taken? All psychotropics or do we have "good" and "bad" drugs like in the drug war? For how long? Since when? Should the kid who took ritalin throughout his childhood never be allowed near a gun? Should he be banned from military service and serving as a cop? What about the women who took Paxil for a few months until she could get things under control?

DARTH wrote:How about as soon as they are prescribed and you (or a guardian if your a kid or real fucked up!) the law states you have to turn your weapons over to a family member, the cops or you could sell them to a licensed dealer, but you can;t have them in your possession when the script for the medication is filled?

baffled wrote:

Turdacious wrote:Making it easier for a woman in a tough spot to put a child up for adoption would go a long way to helping this problem.

Wait, what?

DARTH wrote:
By what was written that kid is a bona fide fucktard on the way to kill someone, so tell me where beyond legality, what I said is so wrong?

Turdacious wrote:

baffled wrote:

Turdacious wrote:Making it easier for a woman in a tough spot to put a child up for adoption would go a long way to helping this problem.

Wait, what?

Making adoption easier (on both ends) would help ease a lot of problems.

Terry B. wrote:

DARTH wrote:How about as soon as they are prescribed and you (or a guardian if your a kid or real fucked up!) the law states you have to turn your weapons over to a family member, the cops or you could sell them to a licensed dealer, but you can;t have them in your possession when the script for the medication is filled?

National Gun Registry and big gov't coming in to "voluntarily" take away your guns. I knew you were a big-gov't liberal deep in your heart.

baffled wrote:

DARTH wrote:
By what was written that kid is a bona fide fucktard on the way to kill someone, so tell me where beyond legality, what I said is so wrong?

DARTH wrote:

Terry B. wrote:

DARTH wrote:How about as soon as they are prescribed and you (or a guardian if your a kid or real fucked up!) the law states you have to turn your weapons over to a family member, the cops or you could sell them to a licensed dealer, but you can;t have them in your possession when the script for the medication is filled?

National Gun Registry and big gov't coming in to "voluntarily" take away your guns. I knew you were a big-gov't liberal deep in your heart.

You really can't read twat. There is no NGR there idiot, it's predicated on you being a weak piece of shit who needs prozac.

DARTH wrote:

baffled wrote:

DARTH wrote:
By what was written that kid is a bona fide fucktard on the way to kill someone, so tell me where beyond legality, what I said is so wrong?

Um, talking about killing a child, even a troubled one. Even on a message board, that's on an entirely different level of demented and fucked up.

I've got a cousin who is the result of rape who happens to be a bit of a kook, fwiw. Glad nobody ever took her hunting.


No, he's 17, only a child if you buy into this bullshit we've constructed in the last 100 years called adolescence, for most of history, he's a man and even today and much of the world, that boy is of military age. Like Trevon.

So you going to keep buying into this Lib bullshit that the punk was a child?

This "kid" has already hurt people, that is beyond kooky. So again no, you can't and I'm not saying one should have to but if this little rape bastard was taken out for a day in the woods and someone should trip and put a 30-06 through his lungs odds are it would actually save a decent person from being hurt later.

If she's not going to shove the pills down the fuckers throat, what's there to do?

There is a real problem there, the state is too into people's shit. Some places, spanking a kid is assault. That is bullshit because short of the pills or taking him to the woods the only other hope I see if for a male in the family to fuck him up real bad the next time he threatens his mom or the good kid Wait till he kills someone. And convences hi, that next time there will be some hunting.

This is Iron Garm, dude, you can say what you think even things you might never do. Lot's of "It be nice " " They should" here, like any bar or hangout conversation.

If your running for office or worried about your rep among the meek, get the fuck of IG then.

Turdacious wrote:Making it easier for a woman in a tough spot to put a child up for adoption would go a long way to helping this problem.

DARTH wrote: No, he's 17, only a child if you buy into this bullshit we've constructed in the last 100 years called adolescence, for most of history, he's a man and even today and much of the world, that boy is of military age. Like Trevon.

milosz wrote:

DARTH wrote: No, he's 17, only a child if you buy into this bullshit we've constructed in the last 100 years called adolescence, for most of history, he's a man and even today and much of the world, that boy is of military age. Like Trevon.

The idea that all or even most teenagers 100-200 years ago were seen as fully fledged adults is bullshit, bro.