New Lance Armstrong book - 'Wheelmen'

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Herv100 wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
Herv100 wrote:Armstrong financially ruined the lives of a bunch of Joe Schmoes. For that he is forever a bitch made faggot. If one of those poor bastards took a ball bat to his kneecaps, it would be well deserved. I personally would go with the Bas Rutten or Iron Sheik specials: knock/choke unconscious then snap lower extremities with reverse heelhooks, or put him in camel clutch break his back fuck his ass make him humble, respectively.
Innocent Joe Schmoes who were doing nothing but minding their own business and shopping drug stories to the highest bidder.
Yeah, things like this tend to happen when one is a prick to all his employees, peers, and everyone he comes in contact with.

Maybe if you keep white knighting for Lance, he'll let you suck his dick
I don't know him but have heard firsthand that he's a decent guy.

Of course, if typing shit about people online makes you feel better about yourself, be my guest.
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Terry B. wrote:
Herv100 wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
Herv100 wrote:Armstrong financially ruined the lives of a bunch of Joe Schmoes. For that he is forever a bitch made faggot. If one of those poor bastards took a ball bat to his kneecaps, it would be well deserved. I personally would go with the Bas Rutten or Iron Sheik specials: knock/choke unconscious then snap lower extremities with reverse heelhooks, or put him in camel clutch break his back fuck his ass make him humble, respectively.
Innocent Joe Schmoes who were doing nothing but minding their own business and shopping drug stories to the highest bidder.
Yeah, things like this tend to happen when one is a prick to all his employees, peers, and everyone he comes in contact with.

Maybe if you keep white knighting for Lance, he'll let you suck his dick
I don't know him but have heard firsthand that he's a decent guy.

Of course, if typing shit about people online makes you feel better about yourself, be my guest.
You should get his phone number from whoever gave you that firsthand account.
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Terry B. wrote:
Herv100 wrote:Armstrong financially ruined the lives of a bunch of Joe Schmoes. For that he is forever a bitch made faggot. If one of those poor bastards took a ball bat to his kneecaps, it would be well deserved. I personally would go with the Bas Rutten or Iron Sheik specials: knock/choke unconscious then snap lower extremities with reverse heelhooks, or put him in camel clutch break his back fuck his ass make him humble, respectively.
Innocent Joe Schmoes who were doing nothing but minding their own business and shopping drug stories to the highest bidder.
Yeah, like this guy, right?

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/sto ... unpleasant

But you've heard he's a decent guy from some enduro-fag friend.
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Herv100 wrote:
Terry B. wrote:
Herv100 wrote:Armstrong financially ruined the lives of a bunch of Joe Schmoes. For that he is forever a bitch made faggot. If one of those poor bastards took a ball bat to his kneecaps, it would be well deserved. I personally would go with the Bas Rutten or Iron Sheik specials: knock/choke unconscious then snap lower extremities with reverse heelhooks, or put him in camel clutch break his back fuck his ass make him humble, respectively.
Innocent Joe Schmoes who were doing nothing but minding their own business and shopping drug stories to the highest bidder.
Yeah, like this guy, right?

http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance/sto ... unpleasant

But you've heard he's a decent guy from some enduro-fag friend.
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I just saw the authors of this book on Colbert.

The guy is your typical, beta bitch boy with a womanly voice and mannerisms.

His types love to take people down in a passive aggressive manner.

Still, Lance was dirty and he finally admitted it.

But also it's a sport that is dirtier than Bodybuilding.

I just look at the good he has done, the pride he brought many and the pile on, many by people who have no issue with using gear or turn a blind eye to real evil fuck demagogues a bunch of shit.




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Darth, stick to TOTALWARRING subjects that you actually give a shit about and your message will make sense.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darth, stick to TOTALWARRING subjects that you actually give a shit about and your message will make sense.

Piss off ya wanka! \:D/

It's a bullshit pile on Lance because a bunch of beefheads could not get the idea that the man considered the fittest man on the planet by many was in a sport on the other end of the spectrum. The Lance hate here has been hot ever since the original IG.

Given a choice between a 800+lbs. Squat and being as fit as Lance, fucking Lance Fit any day. They make Mexicans in 2s and 3s to pick up real heavy shit. lance fit will help you enjoy more things.

Lots of coolness towards getting on the gear here but damn Lance for doing what everyone in that sport does. They did not catch him when it was going on, it should not count.

How many times is it pointed out (and rightly so) that all the gear in the world will not do the work for you. It does not make you have the discipline to train?

EPO (Butter or Edgar Allen Poe), HGH or any of them did not put him on the bike, day after day, in the rain, heat, sleet, rain and tedium. Seeing as the whole sport is dirty as a whorehouse (and every cyclist I've talked to admits this) and so
Lance is still the best of his generation.

It be different if it was a semi clean sport, this is not baseball.

That's what burns me, this puts weight on the perception that gear does the work for you. And it pils more shit against the wider use of HGH, something that has extended the physicallity of many people.

Hell, you ever think of it as you get older?

Sure he's an ass hole but he's done more good than everyone on this board combined with Livestrong and inspiring people with cancer and other seemingly death sentences to keep fighting and many of them went on to win against that scurge.

The fucker gave back where it counted and I give not a fuck that he was hardcore about his business.




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The fact you are lecturing me on this shit reinforces the general perception that you can't read in addition to being unable to write.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:The fact you are lecturing me on this shit reinforces the general perception that you can't read in addition to being unable to write.

There was no fucking lecture there, unlike the ones you tend to give from time to time. it's an opinion and everything all of us say here is an opinion. It's a conversation.

You expect total agreement as soon as you speak or something?

I, nor you, nor anyone here is Lance or one of these people in this whole thing.

So don't get all ass hurt.

Enjoy jerking off to his downfall.

You and I can walk around, and never answer for shit to people who don;t know us.

He's going to be eating shit the rest of his days from people who have accomplished nothing that any other drone has not. That be like the tucked in collared shirt into warm up pants type personal trainer getting a free pass to shit on you if you ever got caught using gear in your sport. Because even if you do, nothing he does in strength compares.

I hope Lance grabs his cash, goes to some South Pacific Island, buys it and flips the bird at all of us and the government too as he slams his plastic nuts against some fine ass.




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DARTH wrote: I hope Lance grabs his cash, goes to some South Pacific Island, buys it and flips the bird at all of us and the government too as he slams his plastic nuts against some fine ass.
I think you won the thread with that one.
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And what do I win, Don? [-o<

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A tip to Weird Al, and I sure as fuck don;t want to win a drink from the firehouse. \:D/




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Darf,

You ignorant Slut.

If you could dial back your ADD for three seconds you'd know most of us who bother to comment in this thread consider Lance to be one of the greatest ever, factoring for drugs, genetics, time period competition etc. He is by far the best tactician of his time, clearly one of the hardest working, most ruthless competitors in any major sport. Howevah...because you haven't a fuckin clue what you're talking about in classic fashion, you blow right past any meaningful discussion of LA in context or how he compares to the true greats like the one Turd posted and take off on another retarded TOTALAWAR flight of fancy.


I don;t think anyone is disagreeing that Lance is the best big Le Tour racer of all time and one of the worlds biggest asshats....not terribly different from any other top sports figure but your mythologizing of every damn thing you run across makes the discussions of those things unbearably uninteresting.
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Cancer is butt-hurt and thinks Lance is an asshole. That's how powerful he is.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darf,

You ignorant Slut.

If you could dial back your ADD for three seconds you'd know most of us who bother to comment in this thread consider Lance to be one of the greatest ever, factoring for drugs, genetics, time period competition etc. He is by far the best tactician of his time, clearly one of the hardest working, most ruthless competitors in any major sport. Howevah...because you haven't a fuckin clue what you're talking about in classic fashion, you blow right past any meaningful discussion of LA in context or how he compares to the true greats like the one Turd posted and take off on another retarded TOTALAWAR flight of fancy.


I don;t think anyone is disagreeing that Lance is the best big Le Tour racer of all time and one of the worlds biggest asshats....not terribly different from any other top sports figure but your mythologizing of every damn thing you run across makes the discussions of those things unbearably uninteresting.

No, your just being a cunt, who challenges someone else's reading comprehension when clearly yours is fucked.

So tell me what I haven’t a clue about, or your doing the same shit you bitch about. Today I mentioned and interview I FUCKING SAW YOU TOTAL TARD! Since you are all for making this a thread not about Armstrong but about me. Read the thread again. I did not say you were the gear accepting dude who is shitting on him.

I guess you are starting to think this forum is about you?

Point to the "Mythologising" on this thread?

If it's so uninteresting then don't fucking read it. It obviously put your heckles up. You've been on the rag a whole fucking week now.

Or is someone else? Is BD not the Alpha one would expect?




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I believe I said....
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Armstrong was great for professional cycling, his opponents and detractors notwithstanding. The last thing cycling at that time would want is credible evidence of systematic doping.

I believe you said...
DARTH wrote: Enjoy jerking off to his downfall.
Qwa?


You also extruded these gems...It's your standard pap and about as intelligible. If I can parse this properly..I believe it's ntended to draw some sort of parallel between a sporting event and armed combat to the death or perhaps Conan comic book? not sure.
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DARFTHENONSTOPMYTHMAKERS wrote: The fucker gave back where it counted and I give not a fuck that he was hardcore about his business.
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DARTH wrote:
Blaidd Drwg wrote:Darth, stick to TOTALWARRING subjects that you actually give a shit about and your message will make sense.

Piss off ya wanka! \:D/

It's a bullshit pile on Lance because a bunch of beefheads could not get the idea that the man considered the fittest man on the planet by many was in a sport on the other end of the spectrum. The Lance hate here has been hot ever since the original IG.

Given a choice between a 800+lbs. Squat and being as fit as Lance, fucking Lance Fit any day. They make Mexicans in 2s and 3s to pick up real heavy shit. lance fit will help you enjoy more things.

Lots of coolness towards getting on the gear here but damn Lance for doing what everyone in that sport does. They did not catch him when it was going on, it should not count.

How many times is it pointed out (and rightly so) that all the gear in the world will not do the work for you. It does not make you have the discipline to train?

EPO (Butter or Edgar Allen Poe), HGH or any of them did not put him on the bike, day after day, in the rain, heat, sleet, rain and tedium. Seeing as the whole sport is dirty as a whorehouse (and every cyclist I've talked to admits this) and so
Lance is still the best of his generation.

It be different if it was a semi clean sport, this is not baseball.

That's what burns me, this puts weight on the perception that gear does the work for you. And it pils more shit against the wider use of HGH, something that has extended the physicallity of many people.

Hell, you ever think of it as you get older?

Sure he's an ass hole but he's done more good than everyone on this board combined with Livestrong and inspiring people with cancer and other seemingly death sentences to keep fighting and many of them went on to win against that scurge.

The fucker gave back where it counted and I give not a fuck that he was hardcore about his business.
Who the hell are you responding to here? Not a single person on this thread is shitting on Lance for using PEDs. He's getting shit on for being a piece of trash who fucked up people's lives, often unprovoked, such as the guy from the espn article I posted which I'm sure you didn't read. Quit changing the fucking goalposts. In fact, it's obvious you didn't know anything about the Lance situation, and simply jumped in and started defending him because you respect him as an athlete.
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I just finished the book. I think I may be the only one in these 4 pages that actually read the thing.

The book isn't anonymous sniping. Armstrong even contributed to the story and spoke with the reporters. It's an interesting and compelling story of the birth of US cycling and the doping culture.

It's also clear that Armstrong is an asshole and a fraud: he was doping pre-cancer, so we'll never truly know how good he was relative to LeMond and other giants that didn't have access to Armstrong's gear.


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lasalle wrote:I just finished the book. I think I may be the only one in these 4 pages that actually read the thing.

The book isn't anonymous sniping. Armstrong even contributed to the story and spoke with the reporters. It's an interesting and compelling story of the birth of US cycling and the doping culture.

It's also clear that Armstrong is an asshole and a fraud: he was doping pre-cancer, so we'll never truly know how good he was relative to LeMond and other giants that didn't have access to Armstrong's gear.
We don't need to actually be informed of what we are discussing to have our opinions.
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What do you mean, "birth of doping"...the first fucking cyclist on his big ass wheel bike to win a cycle race gave himself a coffee enema and chowed down on some strychnine to give himself an edge.

Cycling has been dirty since day one.

Little known fact: Swimming is fucking dirty too.

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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:What do you mean, "birth of doping"...the first fucking cyclist on his big ass wheel bike to win a cycle race gave himself a coffee enema and chowed down on some strychnine to give himself an edge.

Cycling has been dirty since day one.

Little known fact: Swimming is fucking dirty too.
I can understand trying strychnine as a performance enhancer, but the only reason I can think
a cyclist would get a coffee enema is that he is a kink. :toimonster:

Swimmers train an incredible number of hours compared to long distance runners, so I wouldn't
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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:What do you mean, "birth of doping"...the first fucking cyclist on his big ass wheel bike to win a cycle race gave himself a coffee enema and chowed down on some strychnine to give himself an edge.

Cycling has been dirty since day one.
Cycling hasn't been this dirty since day one, but only because they lacked the technology that's available today. If they had access to HGH and other high end gear back in 1910 I have no doubt that that most would have happily taken it.

The issue here for me is the insistence on jumping up and down on Lance's dick because he's an "American hero" and a cancer survivor. I refused to believe it for years-I get it. But he's a pathological liar, a bully and a narcissistic asshole. He destroyed careers and reputations to serve his ego, while literally draping himself in the flag and shielding himself with kids in chemo. Fuck him. And Darth, you can't really believe that's just being an aggressive businessman.

As to him being the greatest tactician in all of cycling, read the book, and spend some time cycling. He was strong as hell, had zero fear and was willing to push himself to insane limits, but on those 7 tour victories he had a great team around him. And it is a team sport.

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lasalle wrote:I just finished the book. I think I may be the only one in these 4 pages that actually read the thing.
I read the last three chapters while hanging out at the bookstore. Good read. I didn't realize Tiger Williams and Floyd Landis were gay lovers. And yet Floyd isn't blonde.
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Blaidd Drwg wrote:The fact you are lecturing me on this shit reinforces the general perception that you can't read in addition to being unable to write.
Hey. That's just like, your opinion, man.
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lasalle wrote:I just finished the book. I think I may be the only one in these 4 pages that actually read the thing.

The book isn't anonymous sniping. Armstrong even contributed to the story and spoke with the reporters. It's an interesting and compelling story of the birth of US cycling and the doping culture.

It's also clear that Armstrong is an asshole and a fraud: he was doping pre-cancer, so we'll never truly know how good he was relative to LeMond and other giants that didn't have access to Armstrong's gear.
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