I don't think that hysterical mourning means what you think it does.johno wrote:It's a fucked-up culture that goes into hysterical mourning over the death of a B movie actor, but the death of a soldier gets a yawn and a "Meh."
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WildGorillaMan wrote:Enthusiasm combined with no skill whatsoever can sometimes carry the day.
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A lot of jaded viewpoints on here. There's nothing wrong with feeling a little sorrow for the guy. Not every instance of grief has to tie into our soldiers being killed and how we treat them. You can sympathize with both. It doesn't have to be black or white.
Obviously people are going to make more of a big deal over [actor they've spent time watching] over [random Marine who's just a name they've never heard before]. This guy held people's attention and was a small part of their lives in the form of entertaining them for a couple hours at a time. It's a more intimate relationship for folks than random soldier guy who they didn't even know existed. Just because people mourn for an actor they were a fan of doesn't mean they're pissing on soldiers or disrespecting their sacrifice. Get off the soap box and stop acting like our armed forces are the only ones worth crying over.
Lastly, I know the area where this crash took place. Let's not act like they were doing speed runs through a school playground. It's an industrial park on the farthest outskirts of town on a Saturday afternoon. You can count the number of cars that pass through there weekends on your hand. Car salesman often take test drives to that and similar areas to let you ring out the ride and see what its got. There's no danger of mowing anyone down. The only thing that can happen is screwing yourself over, as these guys did.
Obviously people are going to make more of a big deal over [actor they've spent time watching] over [random Marine who's just a name they've never heard before]. This guy held people's attention and was a small part of their lives in the form of entertaining them for a couple hours at a time. It's a more intimate relationship for folks than random soldier guy who they didn't even know existed. Just because people mourn for an actor they were a fan of doesn't mean they're pissing on soldiers or disrespecting their sacrifice. Get off the soap box and stop acting like our armed forces are the only ones worth crying over.
Lastly, I know the area where this crash took place. Let's not act like they were doing speed runs through a school playground. It's an industrial park on the farthest outskirts of town on a Saturday afternoon. You can count the number of cars that pass through there weekends on your hand. Car salesman often take test drives to that and similar areas to let you ring out the ride and see what its got. There's no danger of mowing anyone down. The only thing that can happen is screwing yourself over, as these guys did.
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What if a family had been driving in the area at the time, or a bunch of kids playing. The guy was breaking the law plain and simple. You don't get let off "bad choices" when you're putting other peoples lives at risk. If he wanted to drive that fast, he could have taken it to a track.
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Turn down the estrogen. This guy & his driver deserve the same sarcastic "He died doing what he loved" treatment that every other dead thrill seeker gets from IGx.
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I agree completely. What if nuns were visiting the area and walking across the street while staring at rosarie beads? Or if the Pope was kidnapped and air dropped into the street out of the blue? Do you really think this scum bag shitbird should get away scot free (no offense) for killing nuns and the Pope? I sure as hell don't!Beer Jew wrote:What if a family had been driving in the area at the time, or a bunch of kids playing. The guy was breaking the law plain and simple.
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so the lesson is, don't dress in women's clothes if you're going to speedDrag racing called possible factor in 'Fast & Furious' actor Paul Walker's death
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What if Mother Theresa had had the AIDS and didn't know it, and infected the entire sub-continent?protobuilder wrote:I agree completely. What if nuns were visiting the area and walking across the street while staring at rosarie beads?Beer Jew wrote:What if a family had been driving in the area at the time, or a bunch of kids playing. The guy was breaking the law plain and simple.
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Too soon.WildGorillaMan wrote:
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^ Not around here, it's not. 

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James Dean has been dead for almost 60 years. It is time.protobuilder wrote:Too soon.WildGorillaMan wrote:
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The problem appears to be, the car was a Transformer and midway through transforming when it crashed?


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In the aviation safety world, you call that "death from loss of occupiable space".protobuilder wrote:The problem appears to be, the car was a Transformer and midway through transforming when it crashed?
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Porche's are clearly deathtraps. No one has the need to go that fast outside of a government approved facility or by a LEO in a serious life threatening situation.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
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Only the disgustingly rich can afford a care that costs 350-550K. These machines of inequality must be stamped out.



*some twat is going to get on here and say, a 911 has a base price well under a 100k and that used ones can be had in the low 5 figures...then they are going google Singer and have a three day erection praying for the chance to die in a fireball of custom flat six goodness.



*some twat is going to get on here and say, a 911 has a base price well under a 100k and that used ones can be had in the low 5 figures...then they are going google Singer and have a three day erection praying for the chance to die in a fireball of custom flat six goodness.
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I'll be in my bunk.Blaidd Drwg wrote:Only the disgustingly rich can afford a care that costs 350-550K. These machines of inequality must be stamped out.
*some twat is going to get on here and say, a 911 has a base price well under a 100k and that used ones can be had in the low 5 figures...then they are going google Singer and have a three day erection praying for the chance to die in a fireball of custom flat six goodness.
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Would you be OK with requiring some training prior to their use? Maybe even a license? Insurance if they screw up?DrDonkeyLove wrote:Porche's are clearly deathtraps. No one has the need to go that fast outside of a government approved facility or by a LEO in a serious life threatening situation.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
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Good friend used to go out with his fellow Porshe driving buddies onto the Chesapeake Bay Bridge/tunnel in the wee hours of the morning, and they'd clear a multi-mile stretch and then have at it racing.
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Firefly fan?WildGorillaMan wrote:
I'll be in my bunk.
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What if Paul Walker had been a train engineer on the New York commuter line?
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I just want everything dangerous regulated much more than it is now. As long as the regulations are "common sense" and "fact based" it'll be for the betterment of all.nafod wrote:Would you be OK with requiring some training prior to their use? Maybe even a license? Insurance if they screw up?DrDonkeyLove wrote:Porche's are clearly deathtraps. No one has the need to go that fast outside of a government approved facility or by a LEO in a serious life threatening situation.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
Heh
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If anyone's wondering, the Chinese hacked the NY train system and sped up the train, maybe as a training exercise or as a slap in the face to the NSA/CIA.
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Sure hope you're being facetious or sarcastic, Doc. Life in a Romper Room sounds very unpleasant. Boring. Stultifying. Spirit crushing.DrDonkeyLove wrote:I just want everything dangerous regulated much more than it is now. As long as the regulations are "common sense" and "fact based" it'll be for the betterment of all.nafod wrote:Would you be OK with requiring some training prior to their use? Maybe even a license? Insurance if they screw up?DrDonkeyLove wrote:Porche's are clearly deathtraps. No one has the need to go that fast outside of a government approved facility or by a LEO in a serious life threatening situation.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
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I'm sorry, I forgot to include "sensible" and "main stream" in my call for more regulation of everything dangerous (especially these dangerous movie star killing Porsche's). Don't consider it spirit crushing, consider it an opportunity to conform to the new norm. That will be very pleasant indeed.Gene wrote:Sure hope you're being facetious or sarcastic, Doc. Life in a Romper Room sounds very unpleasant. Boring. Stultifying. Spirit crushing.DrDonkeyLove wrote:I just want everything dangerous regulated much more than it is now. As long as the regulations are "common sense" and "fact based" it'll be for the betterment of all.nafod wrote:Would you be OK with requiring some training prior to their use? Maybe even a license? Insurance if they screw up?DrDonkeyLove wrote:Porche's are clearly deathtraps. No one has the need to go that fast outside of a government approved facility or by a LEO in a serious life threatening situation.
Frankly, I'd like to see them outlawed. If not outlawed, at least their most dangerous features such as high performance engines or special racing suspensions, should be eliminated from street legal versions. I'd also like to see drivers of these very dangerous machines specifically registered and licensed before they're allowed to purchase, or even drive, one of these exceptionally dangerous vehicles.
It's for our own good....think of the children.
Heh
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