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Phaedrus wrote:

DARTH wrote:If that fucker wanted to send my son to war over this shit? I'd fucking go to DC with some guns and a shit load of boom and a willingness to fucking die a good death.

No More Wars Of Choice Cuntfuck who shit on a legitimate war with cunts who could not honour cease fire with their betters and has our guys fight this one with their hands behind their backs, killing more than under Bush when their was some semi aggressiveness.

Yeah same faggot Oreo Red Muzzie BITCH who wanted our guys to fight with Al-Qaeda?

Wants to move a fleet that way when Vlad's feeling like he has a 50ft cock?

Pains me to say we would get our asses kicked going into his hood half cocked and to risk war with a nuclear power that grew up in a semi war state is foolish as Hell.

If you still support Obama, fuck you, die!

Obama's the guy who spent 90 minutes on the phone with Putin about this yesterday while people down the hall were calling for ultimatums and deadlines and military/economic threats.

You're just responding to the last sentence right? My Darthanese is usually pretty good, and while I loved every word of this post, I don't understand anything except the last sentence - which is ineluctable.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:

Phaedrus wrote:

DARTH wrote:If that fucker wanted to send my son to war over this shit? I'd fucking go to DC with some guns and a shit load of boom and a willingness to fucking die a good death.

No More Wars Of Choice Cuntfuck who shit on a legitimate war with cunts who could not honour cease fire with their betters and has our guys fight this one with their hands behind their backs, killing more than under Bush when their was some semi aggressiveness.

Yeah same faggot Oreo Red Muzzie BITCH who wanted our guys to fight with Al-Qaeda?

Wants to move a fleet that way when Vlad's feeling like he has a 50ft cock?

Pains me to say we would get our asses kicked going into his hood half cocked and to risk war with a nuclear power that grew up in a semi war state is foolish as Hell.

If you still support Obama, fuck you, die!

Obama's the guy who spent 90 minutes on the phone with Putin about this yesterday while people down the hall were calling for ultimatums and deadlines and military/economic threats.

You're just responding to the last sentence right? My Darthanese is usually pretty good, and while I loved every word of this post, I don't understand anything except the last sentence - which is ineluctable.

Yes. I figured that he was building to his actual point and ended with the topic sentence of the rant.

Wild Bill wrote:

nafod wrote:

Wild Bill wrote:

nafod wrote: The last guy in charge before he went running off to Moscow to hide was Putin's bee-yotch

but he was elected with majority. About 43%.
Its facts.

43% is not a majority. It's a plurality.

:)
Honestly i am shocked by this news. Don't know what to think :(

You should think that the majority wanted someone else. :)

Before that shit with EU assotiation that idiot Yanukovich was good guy. There were smiles and handshakings.
After he refused he immediately became tyrant. Dictatorship! Regime!
All this just shit.

An Putin don't need to show "look! nazis!". There a lot of videos where "rebellions" crying "knives fo russians".
It is armed coup. Thats is.

But Russian army is still in Russia :)
I hope its just sabber-rattling.

nafod wrote:You should think that the majority wanted someone else. :)

Right now people in "Ukraine so scared of new government, that there started mitings already against them :)
In Crimea army and police refused to obey that new government.

i think they afraid something like this

Funny.
Lider of the most radical group "Right quadrant" Yarosh, on his site, urged Doku Umarov (chechen terrorist who took responsibility for eplosions in Volgograd) urged him to organize togethere with them some new actions in Russia.
Kadyrov answered him that Umarov already dead, but he (Kadyrov) promising to organize their sooner meeting.

Flagship of Ukrainean navy refused to obey new government and raised Russian flag
First steps of those nazis scared all people.

Kharkov. Protest against new government.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnmP3HzwyhE[/youtube]

It seems Putin's plan just stay near border and wait.

Hey, what happened to that reset button?

On the up side Wild bill going to drafted! Have fun in military service Bill.


We aren't going to do dick and to be honest what could we do? What are our national interests in Ukraine again? Other than our membership in an outdated military alliance with a bunch of back stabbing european weasels that have never carried their own weight. Plus, the American people are not up for any more foreign wars and the Russians aren't a bunch of grab ass Arabs. Putin also just happens to have nukes. This is a great time to tell Europe it's their time to foot the bil in blood and treasure.

The Obama administration hasn't learned it's lesson from Syria. Don't talk tough and issue ultimatums unless you have the balls and ability to carry out your threats.

On a side note, I find the irony of the situation so fucking delicious. Didn't Romney get mocked by Obama and the Dems over his views regarding the Russians.

Batboy2/75 wrote:On a side note, I find the irony of the situation so fucking delicious. Didn't Romney get mocked by Obama and the Dems over his views regarding the Russians.

Romney said Russia was our #1 geopolotical foe. Given our interests in Ukraine hover somewhere between "Fuck all" and "Pretty sure Ukraine is in Russia," as of today, Romney's statement remains retarded.

Obama is the best Republican president since Reagan.

Just so I'm clear, what specifically do you think Obama should do, what would you want him to do?

I hear "stand up to Putin", "be a man", etc.

What do those mean?

Testiclaw wrote:Just so I'm clear, what specifically do you think Obama should do, what would you want him to do?

I'm gonna guess it's the opposite of whatever he's doing.

Russia barely beats Italy by GDP, with 2x the population. They're in a position for economic pressure to hurt. Since we have absolutely no reason to involve ourselves militarily, the realistic choices are either nothing, or what Obama is currently doing.

Ukranian girls are pretty, though they tend to get large after giving birth. My very first love was Ukranian girl. They speak Russian with a typical accent, which is sometimes cute and sometimes resembles Redneck English. Western part of Ukraine is very anti-russian, while the rest is more or less neutral.

So... Legitimate president of Ukraine has been kicked out, his replacement is likely to be the woman who just got out of jail. Russian moves of assistance to the legally elected president are pre-warned with "deal with consequences" warning, though the "warner" is across the globe from the "warner" and has fuck all interest in Ukraine itself. I suspect its European allies will not want a war on their doorstep, and the whole thing will be limited to the vernacular for a hill and then will be forgotten by the media in couple of weeks.

Batboy2/75 wrote:On the up side Wild bill going to drafted! Have fun in military service Bill.

I hope ukrainians solve this problem themself :)

Lugansk refuse to obey new government.

To soften any potential humanitarian crisis...I suppose we should all order Ukrainian brides.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Obama is the best Republican president since Reagan.

Turd, what would/should/could Obama have done, in your opinion, that would've been ideal, in regards to the Ukraine situation?

Testiclaw wrote:Turd, what would/should/could Obama have done, in your opinion, that would've been ideal, in regards to the Ukraine situation?

Lift export restrictions on natural gas about six years ago.

So...nothing he could have done currently would have been acceptable? Honestly asking.

Testiclaw wrote:So...nothing he could have done currently would have been acceptable? Honestly asking.

I claim no expertise on internal Ukrainian politics but:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2 ... ll_divided

it looks messy. Reducing European dependence on a single source for natural gas would provide stability for their economies, boost ours, and lessen Russian influence. Short of direct military action (which isn't likely at all), it's a little hard to fix a complex situation like this in the short term IMHO.

Fair enough.

I'd imagine that Putin would be pretty pissed if we opened up our NG exports right now, precisely when there's dick stomping going over there. But what could he really do, even if he took offense to it?

Grandpa's Spells wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:On a side note, I find the irony of the situation so fucking delicious. Didn't Romney get mocked by Obama and the Dems over his views regarding the Russians.

Romney said Russia was our #1 geopolotical foe. Given our interests in Ukraine hover somewhere between "Fuck all" and "Pretty sure Ukraine is in Russia," as of today, Romney's statement remains retarded.

Obama is the best Republican president since Reagan.

Sure thing. We are anxiously awaiting Obama's version of "Tear Down This Wall" speech. About as likely as you posting in the 500 million lines of code thread.

I'll admit that there isn't really anything Obama can do in the short run. A President McCain, Bush, Clinton, Kerry, Nixon, Johnson, Truman, Kennedy, Reagan, Roosevelt, name your President or alternate President; they wouldn't have many options. However, spouting empty threats isn't going to help Obama get out of this mess. Particularly, when the whole world knows you are full of shit. The more he talks the more he looks like a fool.

If Obama has any common sense he's throw open the spigot on natural gas and oil. Drive their respective prices into the toilet over a period of years. Do what Reagan and the Saudis did in the late 1980s. Deprive the Russian state of money. That's the first step to shitting in Putin's punch bowl. Not a complete solution, but a nice first step. Better than running your mouth.