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Forget it, those coats of arms just reminds ukraininans for me, i thought it is funny :)

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Like this huh? Well, I learned something.
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Listening now 1984.
Part 2, chapter 8
'You are prepared to give your lives?'
'Yes.'
'You are prepared to commit murder?'
'Yes.'
'To commit acts of sabotage which may cause the death of hundreds of innocent people?'
'Yes.'
'To betray your country to foreign powers?'
'Yes.'
'You are prepared to cheat, to forge, to blackmail, to corrupt the minds of children, to distribute habit-forming drugs, to encourage prostitution, to disseminate venereal diseases — to do anything which is likely to cause demoralization and weaken the power of the Party?'
'Yes.'
'If, for example, it would somehow serve our interests to throw sulphuric acid in a child's face — are you prepared to do that?'
'Yes.'
it is dificult to feel simpathy to such "good guys", all revolutioneers are the same :)

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Smet is a poor man's Arkady Kirsanov.
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Wow...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUHF0y8mvWI[/youtube]

short interview with one of them, says "i was in Crimea, now here". And he says it was NovoSerbia in 1723.
(I heard there was serbs there in Catherine the Great times, but don't remember certain dates)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JmNiWDQ ... u.be#t=715

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guy who gave interview captured.

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Haha yeah I don't doubt it, Serbs go looking for trouble like nobody. The purest people I ever met.
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Ukraine doesn’t need Russia to take it down—Kiev is doing fine destroying itself, most recently with a new tax code that doubles taxes for private gas producers and promises to irreparably cripple new investment in the energy sector at a time when reform and outside investment were the country’s only hope.

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko on August 1 signed off on a new tax code that effectively doubles the tax private gas producers in Ukraine will have to pay, calling into question any new investment, as well as commitment from key producers already operating in the country.

The stated goal of the new tax code—a legislative package embraced by the parliament on July 31 with more than 300 votes--is to raise $1 billion, of which $791 million would go to fund the war effort in eastern Ukraine.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/ ... s-Tax.html
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Time for a new Peoples Revolution. Make your bets: how long will Poroshenko last?
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They say Timoshenko planning something.
If there will be some new revolt, it will start in the Fall or Winter.

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But in Ukraine winters are not so cold, so may be electric energy will be enough.


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BTW, Maidan already burning again :)

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WTF

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There might be some ethnic connections between the Vikings and the Mongolians.
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Wild Bill wrote:WTF

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Word is Russia is about to invade.
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If the fucking UN didn't level sanctions against the US for invading Iraq and Afghanistan, then they should let fucking Russia settle shit in their own backyard without bitching

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Wild Bill wrote:WTF

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Hah!
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In Russia began to rebuild the Soviet bomb shelters. I only heard about it, but now is rebuilding near my work place #-o


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Russian-Ukrainian border
Beyond pole with "88" it is already Ukraine :)

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I'll buy that the border is not well demarcated, but if I were a soldier next to a warzone where my country was already accused of incursions, I'd make pretty fucking sure I knew where it was.

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I guess these guys don't know where the border is either?
Tanks, artillery and infantry have crossed from Russia into an unbreached part of eastern Ukraine in recent days, attacking Ukrainian forces and causing panic and wholesale retreat not only in this small border town but a wide swath of territory, in what Ukrainian and Western military officials are calling a stealth invasion.

The attacks outside this city and in an area to the north essentially have opened a new, third front in the war in eastern Ukraine between government forces and pro-Russian separatists, along with the fighting outside the cities of Donetsk and Luhansk.

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One of the downsides of the Internet is that it allows like-minded people to form communities, and sometimes those communities are stupid.

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