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TomFurman wrote:Article posted by Sonny Puzikas
http://rt.com/op-edge/183132-only-truth-flight-mh17/
I was pretty sure he was a fucking idiot, but it's good to get confirmation.
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Grandpa's Spells wrote:
TomFurman wrote:Article posted by Sonny Puzikas
http://rt.com/op-edge/183132-only-truth-flight-mh17/
I was pretty sure he was a fucking idiot, but it's good to get confirmation.
Hahaha high five Spells, I was going to say the same thing. Anyone who could write an article like that, or read it and approve, is beneath consideration.

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Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:I'll buy that the border is not well demarcated, but if I were a soldier next to a warzone where my country was already accused of incursions, I'd make pretty fucking sure I knew where it was.
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In any case, even if Russia build The Great Chinese wall, there still would be accusations of incursions :)


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The idea that the Ukrainians are the good guys and the Russians are the bad guys in this fight is laughable. The sad truth is both the Russians and the Ukrainians have legitimate beefs with each other. We should just stay out of it and let nature take it's course.
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Can you get me that blonde's email wild bill?


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Bud Charniga's grape ape wrote:I'll buy that the border is not well demarcated, but if I were a soldier...
there already ~470 ukrainian soldiers crossed Russian border to take refuge from rebels.
All of them were simply returned to Ukraine.

Today (28.08.20014 ), ~60 ukrainian soldiers, again crossed russian border and asked for refuge.
So in total it is already more than 500.
Now what are they talking about 10 russian soldiers? :)


I think after this those ukrainian soldiers who will ask for refuge, will not so simply returned to Ukraine.
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Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Can you get me that blonde's email wild bill?
judging by haircut style, it is Timoshenko :)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/29/world ... .html?_r=0

The Russians are definitely playing games and are pulling the strings in Eastern Ukraine. However, the West is also playing a game. First off insisting that the Maiden Square Coup is legitimate, while the eastern Russian Speaking Ukrainian areas (particularly Crimea) desire for self determination is illegitimate. Secondly, ignoring the fact that the Ukrainians are shelling separatist held civilian areas. The Ukrainians are not exactly the poor little victims the West wants to portray them as.

As I stated a couple of pages ago. Putin is playing chess and the West is playing checkers.
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Wild Bill wrote:French volunteers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qCAsyKOE9Y
According to Russian English news sites there is a battalion of Serb Volunteers operating in eastern Ukraine (soon to be renamed New Russia). Not to mention around 25-50 Americans.
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The Donbass battalion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KFGgKPrWfY

Looks like the Ukrainian Government had these boys on a very very long leash.


Donbass Battalion (Ukrainian militia) surrounded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x7m11xYwyI

Things are not going very well for the Ukrainian side or the West Media's meme that the Russian Rebels are on the run.
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If the Russians fail geography, the Canuks and the West fail history.
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Batboy2/75 wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:French volunteers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qCAsyKOE9Y
According to Russian English news sites there is a battalion of Serb Volunteers operating in eastern Ukraine (soon to be renamed New Russia). Not to mention around 25-50 Americans.
According to Serbs there 204 Serbian volunteers :)


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I heard about only one American volunteer and he was on Ukrainian side.
Killed.


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BTW, there Russian volunteers (i mean from RF) on Ukrainian side. I can't understand this, but this is fact.

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Wild Bill wrote:French volunteers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qCAsyKOE9Y

Does anyone NOT see the irony of claiming to be fighting fascism and then quoting Alexander Dugin?
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Wild Bill wrote:I heard about only one American volunteer and he was on Ukrainian side.
Killed.
Adventurous types from across the globe are pouring into Ukraine for some adventure on both sides. There is supposedly a large contingent of Greeks fighting in Eastern Ukraine for the Pro Russian side..
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Fat Cat wrote:
Wild Bill wrote:French volunteers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qCAsyKOE9Y

Does anyone NOT see the irony of claiming to be fighting fascism and then quoting Alexander Dugin?
Which is why we should just stay out of it. Both sides have fascists riddled throughout their ranks.
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I'm conflicted. I personally have no objection to Russians or Ukrainians. That said, the Russian government has an officially anti-American and pro-Fascist position, so I'm kinda like, fuck 'em. While I don't feel like we should become involved, I don't see any harm in obstructing Putinovtsi ambitions. They know that they can't do shit to us militarily, but the cornerstone of their policy is to play on post-Iraq American isolationism, and to some extent your stance plays into that.
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