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Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:40 pm Haven't we all died already?

Shit, I didn't know.

Sangoma wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:05 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:40 pm Haven't we all died already?

Shit, I didn't know.

Reminds me of a passage from a Jorge Luis Borges parable...

“The story goes that, before or after he died, he found himself before God...”

https://thefloatinglibrary.com/2008/07/ ... hing-edit/

USA holds the line! Moralfag panicmongers BTFO.

Sweden doing better for some unknown reason

Predominant Role of Bacterial Pneumonia as a Cause of Death in Pandemic Influenza: Implications for Pandemic Influenza Preparedness
David M.. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, Anthony S. Fauci

https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/198/7/962/2192118

Even Fauci knew this from the beginning.

These respiratory viruses are almost benign in themselves. It is the secondary bacterial infections that kill. And with Covid it is anaerobic bacteria that cause the Cytokine Storm (which happens in other diseases as well).

Another good news pre-print:

"This was confirmed in a longitudinal analysis of acute-resolving infection that demonstrated rapid induction of the SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T cells within a week followed by a prolonged contraction phase that outlasted the waning humoral immune response indicating that CD8+ T-cell responses might serve as a more precise correlate of antiviral immunity than antibody measurements after convalescence. "

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 3.249433v1

"Gabor Erdosi
@gerdosi
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4h
My take:
We assume how respiratory viruses are transmitted and masks/hand washing should clearly interfere with that mechanism, experimental evidence doesn’t support our assumptions."

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:44 pm "Gabor Erdosi
@gerdosi
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4h
My take:
We assume how respiratory viruses are transmitted and masks/hand washing should clearly interfere with that mechanism, experimental evidence doesn’t support our assumptions."

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”

That was a May 2020 paper, and it was a meta-analysis, meaning they used combined results from other older papers. There’s been direct, recent results since.

They were right, that research was needed.

Brain damage lingers among patients, 55% showed stuff on CT scans, both severe and non-severe cases.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.eclinm.2020.100484

nafod wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:21 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:44 pm "Gabor Erdosi
@gerdosi
·
4h
My take:
We assume how respiratory viruses are transmitted and masks/hand washing should clearly interfere with that mechanism, experimental evidence doesn’t support our assumptions."

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”

That was a May 2020 paper, and it was a meta-analysis, meaning they used combined results from other older papers. There’s been direct, recent results since.

They were right, that research was needed.

Well what is it dude?

nafod wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:36 pm Brain damage lingers among patients, 55% showed stuff on CT scans, both severe and non-severe cases.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.eclinm.2020.100484

Bacterial infections are terrible.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 5990000363

Holy shit this thread about Ferguson and the Imperial College.

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:49 pm

nafod wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:21 pm

Bennyonesix1 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:44 pm "Gabor Erdosi
@gerdosi
·
4h
My take:
We assume how respiratory viruses are transmitted and masks/hand washing should clearly interfere with that mechanism, experimental evidence doesn’t support our assumptions."

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article

"We identified several major knowledge gaps requiring further research, most fundamentally an improved characterization of the modes of person-to-person transmission.”

That was a May 2020 paper, and it was a meta-analysis, meaning they used combined results from other older papers. There’s been direct, recent results since.

They were right, that research was needed.

Well what is it dude?

The research has now been done (or continues to be done), that they said needed to be done. Sorry, not clear.

FDA analysis of specificity and sensitivity of the emergency approved tests.

Would obv like to see how many of each were performed and where as well.

https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/cor ... erformance

Gabor Erdosi
@gerdosi
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10h
A seroprevalence study from Arizona shows that
• All PCR positive cases seroconvert, including asymptomatics.
• Antibody levels mostly depend on disease severity.
• Antibodies against the nucleocapsid (N) glycoprotein wane more quickly, increasing chance of false negatives

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101 ... 20174490v1

Bros bros bos! We're gonna ERADICATE the virus! We're gonna CRUSH it! Mask up bros! MASK UP!

I thought this was a good discussion of Herd Resistance/ Herd Immunity.

And I can't listen to podcasts.

https://accadandkoka.com/episodes/episode140/

I mean, I CAN listen to podcasts. I have the technology. I just don't. Because they are inefficient 99% of the time. Just blah blah blah blah

It's a lying ching chong study but...

SAR of 0.3% for asymptomatic.

If true, lmao at masks.

"Results:

Among 3410 close contacts, 127 (3.7% [95% CI, 3.1% to 4.4%]) were secondarily infected. Of these 127 persons, 8 (6.3% [CI, 2.1% to 10.5%]) were asymptomatic. Of the 119 symptomatic cases, 20 (16.8%) were defined as mild, 87 (73.1%) as moderate, and 12 (10.1%) as severe or critical. Compared with the household setting (10.3%), the secondary attack rate was lower for exposures in healthcare settings (1.0%; odds ratio [OR], 0.09 [CI, 0.04 to 0.20]) and on public transportation (0.1%; OR, 0.01 [CI, 0.00 to 0.08]). The secondary attack rate increased with the severity of index cases, from 0.3% (CI, 0.0 to 1.0%) for asymptomatic to 3.3% (CI, 1.8% to 4.8%) for mild, 5.6% (CI, 4.4% to 6.8%) for moderate, and 6.2% (CI, 3.2% to 9.1%) for severe or critical cases. Index cases with expectoration were associated with higher risk for secondary infection (13.6% vs. 3.0% for index cases without expectoration; OR, 4.81 [CI, 3.35 to 6.93])."

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2671

The above post of course explains this:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/11/us/m ... ssion=true

Aint no spread like family spread.

My BIL who has it has managed to infect his special needs son, his sister who is staying with him, and soon his wife when she gets home from the hospital. He has gone to the supermarket while sick. Picked up his sister from the airport. He is a high school teacher, and has often refused to wear a mask. Thinks they don't work, and interfere with his freedoms.

Dumbass

Jfc you are a narcissistic creep

An important thing we don't know but need to know:

For each death attributed to covid when was the illness acquired and when was the date of death.

Results: Forty-six patients were admitted with severe H1N1 infection. Echocardiography was obtained in 39 patients on admission: 28 (72%) had abnormal ventricular function, of whom 13 (46%) had isolated LV abnormalities, 11 (39%) had isolated RV dysfunction, and 4 (14%) had biventricular dysfunction. Echocardiography was repeated in 19 of the 39 patients during their hospitalization: RV function tended to worsen with time, but LV function tended to normalize. The ventricular abnormalities were not associated with history, severity of the respiratory failure, or hemodynamic status. However, patients with ventricular dysfunction needed more aggressive therapy, including more frequent use of vasopressor and inotropic agents and of rescue ventilatory strategies, such as inhaled nitric oxide, prone positioning, and extracorporeal membrane oxygenation.

Conclusions: These observations emphasize the high incidence of cardiac dysfunction in patients with H1N1 influenza infections.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23566732/

Interesting letter re: asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic transmission. It looks over-estimated. But, we just don't know very much about transmission of resp viruses.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1046-6