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Are regular couch thread denizens depressed that Couch keeps coming out on top?
Almost seven years on, he's richer, drunker and deeper in andro pussy than ever before.

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I'm kind of jealous.

I'm also noticing that the "cleaner" I live my life, the poorer I seem to get.

A lesson there. I'm sure of it.
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At first it was, but it became such an improbable series of events and remained entertaining as all fuck, everyone just stopped giving an actual fuck about anything serious

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Couch has become the drunken, stoned, pussy eating excommunicated patron saint of IGx, even more so than Pavel and Friedes

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milosz wrote:Are regular couch thread denizens depressed that Couch keeps coming out on top?
Almost seven years on, he's richer, drunker and deeper in andro pussy than ever before.
He just cut a $16M check from borrowed money. Maybe @Fit will resist the fitness fad flameout, but it sure looks like Lauren cashed out at the right time to me.
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The one thing I keep thinking about is that while Couch seems like a spiteful, narrow sighted dick, he's incredibly intelligent. He may be wrong about a shit load of stuff, but look at what he's built on the backs of near retarded, but blindly loyal and seemingly hardworking donks.

I feel like he wouldn't have pulled off this acquisition if he didn't know something nobody else does. Especially the Russells and his "legal counsel".
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baffled wrote:I feel like he wouldn't have pulled off this acquisition if he didn't know something nobody else does.
Eh, not really. It was pretty much an example of how not to do business.

Couch remains a propaganda master. That's his real claim to fame.
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God, I can smell the douchebag from across facebook.
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protobuilder wrote:
baffled wrote:I feel like he wouldn't have pulled off this acquisition if he didn't know something nobody else does.
Eh, not really. It was pretty much an example of how not to do business.

Couch remains a propaganda master. That's his real claim to fame.
I guess what I was trying to say is that if someone is bout to get fucked, it won't be Couch.
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Terry B. wrote:Does nobody understand that the judge simply made it appear that she won so she couldn't appeal, meaning that she really lost?
She was going to net $16 million to sell all interest in Crossfit to Anthos, she got the same exact amount from Greg. And this was a significantly better deal than Crossfit's original, drawn-out-payment-plan offer. Not sure how that's losing. Although she didn't get to give a final fuck-you to Greg by sticking him with Anthos, so I suppose there is that.

Final Tally:
Lauren lost some legal fees, but not much else.
Greg is out the legal fees and has a $16 million loan to deal with.
Anthos just has the legal fees.

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Couch will ride CF down in flames, get as much cash out as possible, screw everyone else, and live out his retirement in Palm Springs slurring out stories about the good old days on the beach front deck of his sugar momma's house, while still getting all-you-can-eat andro pussy on the side. We should all aspire to this.
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Capstone to the insanity:

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Any cursory reading of the court documents proves the claims of the Russells to be demonstrably false. It requires no complex legal knowledge or analysis. Conclusion then is one of three:

1) Cult members are so blinded they can't tell black from white
2) Cult members are so stupid they lack basic reading comprehension skills
3) Cult members have decided court documents lack the facts and only missives from The Russells and Dale "You Want To Fight Me" Saran are accurate reports of the case.

Anthos got off lucky, IMHO. Can't imagine doing business with the people that allow their employees to rant and rave in public unhindered like the above.

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Two weeks russel? Nah try two days.

The facts of the case is that @fit originally stated Anthos has no right to buy into it at all. The court ruled they did but Couch had the right to buy if he could match the funds, which in all honesty is ethical and right. No company should be forced to partner if they don't want to.

@fit won and lost. I call it a draw. But the spin they are putting on it is hilarious. Anthos did not act unethically. They were presented an offer by Lauren and ran with it. It wasn't a hostile takeover meant to shuffle out everyone at HQ. Contrary to what they say this is called business, something that happens everyday in this world.

They can spin it all they want but the facts are clear.

Now we know where the money came from to fund the buyout. Judging by their lack of honesty with everything else I wonder if that's the whole story.


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MinnieApple wrote:
Terry B. wrote:Does nobody understand that the judge simply made it appear that she won so she couldn't appeal, meaning that she really lost?
She was going to net $16 million to sell all interest in Crossfit to Anthos, she got the same exact amount from Greg. And this was a significantly better deal than Crossfit's original, drawn-out-payment-plan offer. Not sure how that's losing. Although she didn't get to give a final fuck-you to Greg by sticking him with Anthos, so I suppose there is that.

Final Tally:
Lauren lost some legal fees, but not much else.
Greg is out the legal fees and has a $16 million loan to deal with.
Anthos just has the legal fees.
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baffled wrote:He may be wrong about a shit load of stuff, but look at what he's built on the backs of near retarded, but blindly loyal and seemingly hardworking donks.
Never underestimate how much money you can suck out of such people. Entire industries are built on that concept.

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Every industry is built on that principle.


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Jesus. Russ Greene, acting as an employee of Cultfit, using Cultfit's corporate-run internet forum, is really throwing shit at Bryan Kelly.

Mr. Kelly could find himself a plaintiff if he were so inclined. I mean, what if he goes to do business with another entity, they google his name, and find unrebutted allegations that he is "unethical" and uses "potentially illegal tactics" and "ethically and legally questionable actiosn" to engage in "rent seeking"?
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protobuilder wrote:Jesus. Russ Greene, acting as an employee of Cultfit, using Cultfit's corporate-run internet forum, is really throwing shit at Bryan Kelly.

Mr. Kelly could find himself a plaintiff if he were so inclined. I mean, what if he goes to do business with another entity, they google his name, and find unrebutted allegations that he is "unethical" and uses "potentially illegal tactics" and "ethically and legally questionable actiosn" to engage in "rent seeking"?
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protobuilder wrote:Jesus. Russ Greene, acting as an employee of Cultfit, using Cultfit's corporate-run internet forum, is really throwing shit at Bryan Kelly.

Mr. Kelly could find himself a plaintiff if he were so inclined. I mean, what if he goes to do business with another entity, they google his name, and find unrebutted allegations that he is "unethical" and uses "potentially illegal tactics" and "ethically and legally questionable actiosn" to engage in "rent seeking"?

The best possible scenario would be if Kelly went after the Russells and we got to see Couch throw them over the boat. Nothing like the pained confusion of Cultfitters thrown out into the cold by their beloved Couch.

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I'd Hit It wrote:
protobuilder wrote:Jesus. Russ Greene, acting as an employee of Cultfit, using Cultfit's corporate-run internet forum, is really throwing shit at Bryan Kelly.

Mr. Kelly could find himself a plaintiff if he were so inclined. I mean, what if he goes to do business with another entity, they google his name, and find unrebutted allegations that he is "unethical" and uses "potentially illegal tactics" and "ethically and legally questionable actiosn" to engage in "rent seeking"?

The best possible scenario would be if Kelly went after the Russells and we got to see Couch throw them over the boat. Nothing like the pained confusion of Cultfitters thrown out into the cold by their beloved Couch.
Does Kelly have big enough pockets to be worth suing?
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syaigh wrote:Couch will ride CF down in flames, get as much cash out as possible, screw everyone else, and live out his retirement in Palm Springs slurring out stories about the good old days on the beach front deck of his sugar momma's house, while still getting all-you-can-eat andro pussy on the side. We should all aspire to this.
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Did your personal Li'l Couch prescribe you stiff-legged rowing on the Concept2? Are you confused? STOP ASKING QUESTIONS

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The gems of Li'l Couch's explanations:
I promised you an explanation. I didn’t forget. Here’s my answer to you, Young Hector…

“Trust your sensei young grasshopper.”

What? Not satisfied with such a succint answer? Do I sense a bit of doubt even after all your PR’s and increased chest hair volume whilst on this very program? Tsk, tsk. Ok, I guess I’ll give you a more detailed explanation.

You asked about one particular workout, which included rowing on a Concept 2 rower with either stiff legs and using just the upper body or stiff arms and using just the lower body. I assume you also had some questions about the barbell holds, some of the Olympic lifting sequences, plyo jumps and the like. Actually, Young Hector, your question of “why are we doing this or that?” actually comes up every now and again. So to satisfy you and others that may also have questions, I’ve decided to answer more generally than about any one workout, sequence or move. So here are some, though not all, of the reasons I program what I program:

1. Because it was on the mainsite

Does that seem like a cop-out answer? But is it? Remember the goal of this program is not to get fit per se, but to compete in athletic pursuits, particularly competitive CrossFit, at a high level. One of the goals of this program is to have done everything that has ever appeared on the Mainsite (in terms of movement) at least once. And where has HQ given us clues about what might appear in HQ organized competitive CrossFit events? The Mainsite. So while this might seem like a dissatisifying answer, it is really the primary driver of why we do what we do in this program. If forward rolls were on the mainsite, the you can bet we will be doing forward rolls.

2. Development of core to extremity coordination

One of the reasons we employ the Olympic lifts so heavily is their use in developing core to extremity coordination. As is pointed out in Glassman’s classic article “Foundations“, the Olympic lifts assist in learning how to “apply force to muscle groups in proper sequence, i.e., from the center of the body to its extremities. Learning this vital technical lesson benefits all athletes who need to impart force to another person or object as is commonly required in nearly all sports.” I would say, including competitive CrossFit.

In the workout you questioned Young Hector, core to extremity coordination was called on throughout the workout, particularly in the rowing sequence. Thus to your question, yes, it does transfer to other things. Your ability to transfer power from your trunk to your arms without the use of your hips or legs, is vital to your ability to later generate power using your entire body.

3. Constant variance

Young Hector, constant variance is a hallmark of CrossFit and this program. As to why I program what I program, I can many times simply answer “constant variance”. However, I won’t delve too deeply into this concept right now as I feel it deserves it’s own level of attention. I promise I will get to it in another post. Which brings us to…

4. It’s ALL skills

One thing I think that makes this program unique is unlike other programs that have a narrow definition of what would constitute skills in CrossFit, I believe everything can be broken down into component skills. In the User’s Guide, which I recommend you read again, I talk about geniuses. I point out that geniuses are geniuses partly because they practice their skills in a particular way. I always imagine that Derek Jeter practices each part of this swing before he goes out and tries to hit. I argue that competitive CrossFit athletes should do the same thing. Do you remember that?

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Put simply, the competitive CrossFit (CCF) athlete must practice higher-level skills, typically the gymnastics skills common to CCF and the Olympic lifts to some degree, in a deliberate manner to reach competitive level competence. The keyword here is deliberate. It is simply not enough to practice these skills more often than the typical CrossFit athlete. It is simply not enough to say, “practice handstand push-ups for 10 minutes.” Deliberate practice would call on the athlete to break the movement down into component parts and drill each of those consistently. The CCF athlete must do this in a process-driven manner.

Using the rowing workout yet again as example, what we had is the row stroke broken down into two component parts, and we drilled each. Yes, rowing, like everything is a skill and should be treated as such. Remember the workout where I had you hold a barbell both in the air and in the rack? My aim was to help you develop the ability, if not the fortitude, not to drop the bar during a workout. And possibly learn how rest in each of those positions. The best in the world have learned this is the way to go. Just take a look at Annie T in the thruster portion of the Europe v. USA comp, or Froning Jr. in the chipper wod from the 2012 Games. Now, I have no idea if they drilled this, but wouldn’t it make sense to drill it as a skill? I think so.

I’ll say again Young Hector… trust your sinsei.
Poor Young Hector, you're paying this dumb bastard. Because the skill in rowing form is totally about learning to flap your arms and not about optimizing your coordination between the upper and lower body movements, necessitating the use of them together. And "constantly varied" continues to be a good reason for a couch to stick random shit into the workout, rather than the bullshit hand-waving used by incompetents to divert attention away from their confusion of "come up with random shit" for "come up with well-thought-out, efficacious programming where movements are carefully tailored toward and individual's weaknesses and needs."

I am pretty fucking sure Derek Jeter does not break his swing down into completely arbitrary movements that in no way mimic the way the total movement is executed.

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No MLB player breaks down their swing in parts and practices each part... that is fucking stupid.

What an idiot of a coach

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Well, I got better at cooking by standing barefoot in different parts of the kitchen. And sometimes by being pregnant at the same time.
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Jay wrote:No MLB player breaks down their swing in parts and practices each part... that is fucking stupid.

What an idiot of a coach
I never played in the MLB but I'm pretty sure I did plenty of drills: top and bottom hand swings off the tee, timing the step and loading the hands, squashing the bug, etc. Same went with throwing.
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