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Bob Wildes wrote:How do you get two Afghans out of a bingo hall?

I don't know.

How?

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:How do you get two Afghans out of a bingo hall?

I don't know.

How?

Why do you have to be such an asshole? The man has a serious problem in his bingo hall.

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:How do you get two Afghans out of a bingo hall?

I don't know.

How?

Shout B-52.

Bob Wildes wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:The West is full of pussies. Their cowardice is writing checks the rest of us are going to have to cash.

They aren't bullet proof either.

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

Bob Wildes wrote:

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:How do you get two Afghans out of a bingo hall?

I don't know.

How?

Shout B-52.

I think we all liked it better when Bob W didn't know how to post.

Batboy2/75 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:The West is full of pussies. Their cowardice is writing checks the rest of us are going to have to cash.

They aren't bullet proof either.

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

You reckon military service is the solution?

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

France has catered so much in the past to these fucking cockroaches and now they have an infestation. They need stomped on. Hard.

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

T>1200 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:How do you get two Afghans out of a bingo hall?

I don't know.

How?

Shout B-52.

I think we all liked it better when Bob W didn't know how to post.

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Smet wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:The West is full of pussies. Their cowardice is writing checks the rest of us are going to have to cash.

They aren't bullet proof either.

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

You reckon military service is the solution?

There are pros and cons. If they don't join, you get a better military service. If they are required to, everybody has skin in the game.

Interesting, in 2008 man was fired from that magazine due to antisemit caricature.

Wild Bill wrote:Interesting, in 2008 man was fired from that magazine due to antisemit caricature.

I find that hard to believe, given the cartoons of theirs that I have seen. They flung their poo without prejudice.

No, Bill's right. Dude's name was Siné.

Smet wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:

Bob Wildes wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:The West is full of pussies. Their cowardice is writing checks the rest of us are going to have to cash.

They aren't bullet proof either.

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

You reckon military service is the solution?

I reckon that an emphasis on civic duty is the answer for most national problems regardless of the country.

If you are going to have universal suffrage than you need to have universal conscription w/ no exceptions. The right to vote, the right to have a say, the right to demand things from government; has to be balanced with the demand for duty. Heinlein was much more concise and elegant than I ever will be, but military service is the answer. At one time, every voting citizen should have direct skin in the game. That means the chance to die in combat protecting the tribe or the nation.

A nation with universal conscription (with no deferments or exceptions) will be less likely to engage in wars of aggression, nation building or wasteful adventures. When your parents, siblings, spouse, children and or friends lives are on the line, you'll be very careful what wars you start and will be keen on ending them as fast as possible. Foreign affairs becomes a serious and personal business when you and yours has skin in the game.

In the United States we have an all volunteer military. This has lead to the burdens of war falling on a small segment of the population. Mostly middle class families and families with a military tradition. The elites (and most Americans for that matter) in our society are almost entirely cut off from the military; the press, academia, politicians, business leaders by and large don't serve. I find it repugnant when the average citizen demands that politicians send other people's children off to war and or demonstrate against that war from the safety of the USA. I detest both the war monger and the war demonstrator because they both haven't earned the right to demand anything. I particularly detest the chatter elite class in the USA because they statistically don't serve in the military and yet they hold the levers of power.

tough old man wrote:

The chattering class doesn't volunteer for military service.

France has catered so much in the past to these fucking cockroaches and now they have an infestation. They need stomped on. Hard.

You have more direct experience than I do, but when I was there, even pre-9/11 the typical French were absolutely openly hostile to Arabs. Laws that forbid speech offensive to the religious do not apply to Islam, and they banned headscarves in public.

Seems like the French are pretty tough on Islam already. What else should they be doing?

Is it true they've ceded control of certain neighborhoods to them in terms of policing and law? Western guilt about assimilation leads to lack of common principles and agreements on the basic values that define a society. When a group is actively trying to upend your culture, and you let them create enclaves within your society that do not participate and follow foreign law, you've got a problem. That creates cockroaches that must be stomped.

Grandpa's Spells wrote:Seems like the French are pretty tough on Islam already. What else should they be doing?

Nuke'em all, wherever they hide.

It's only a matter of time until some towelhead fucker detonates a nuclear weapon in an American or European city, killing millions. Or until they can use some sort of nerve agent in a crowd. Or until they can poison a city's water supply with something really nasty. Or until the fuckers infect us all with ebola or something worse.

I'm way past caring about collateral damage. Nobody liked being forced to nuke Japan twice, but it was a necessary evil that ended the war. And today Japan is both a great country and a powerful ally.

T>1200 wrote:Is it true they've ceded control of certain neighborhoods to them in terms of policing and law? Western guilt about assimilation leads to lack of common principles and agreements on the basic values that define a society. When a group is actively trying to upend your culture, and you let them create enclaves within your society that do not participate and follow foreign law, you've got a problem. That creates cockroaches that must be stomped.

Yes, it's true. And it's happening in Sweden too.

But... the same can be said about certain black neighborhoods in the US.

While there are areas in which America could take a lesson from how other countries manage certain problems (seems like Portugal figured out drugs), I don't know why the advice for the French wouldn't have something along the lines of: "Look where muslims integrate well and consider emulating those policies."

America pretty much has the best integrated Muslin population in the Western world. Europe should probably be taking their cues from us. Fucking with the population real hard is not a likely recipe for success, particularly the general citizenry who just want to mind their own business.

True, Spells. I worked for a while with a French Muslim of Moroccan ethnicity, she said the worst racism in the US was very, very mild compared to what she experienced in Paris. She came here because she was tired of not being treated as a professional. And this was a hard science PhD, western clothes - wearing very mainstream kind of lady.

SubClaw wrote:Nobody liked being forced to nuke Japan twice, but it was a necessary evil that ended the war.

Yeah, it's not like we water boarded somebody, or did something else really evil.

Batboy2/75 wrote: A nation with universal conscription (with no deferments or exceptions) will be less likely to engage in wars of aggression, nation building or wasteful adventures. When your parents, siblings, spouse, children and or friends lives are on the line, you'll be very careful what wars you start and will be keen on ending them as fast as possible. Foreign affairs becomes a serious and personal business when you and yours has skin in the game.

'Like'

Second that "like". Our family had four of five men in the military. Two drafted. Totally believe in skin in the game.


As for the French terrorist attack: Couple of guys, maybe a few others, so now they are gonna have a soldier on every street corner?

Trading liberty for security is a poor choice.

Gary John wrote: Trading liberty for security is a poor choice.

As an ex-NYC cop who has lived in MO, NC, TX & MN in the last 20 years, I have always been 'mildly' against modern militarization of the police, thinking the cries about it were mostly over reaction. Then, when I went back home in summer of 2014 and saw cops side by side with National Guardsman, all armed with rifles, throughout Penn Station as a matter of routine, I was like WTF is this? Same for Bomb Squad and ESU parked outside of the Today Show, which I understand is routine these days. Slippery slope.

Don't worry. You can vote in 2016 to pick someone else to control the apparatus and it will all be fine. Are you pro-life or pro-choice?

Turdacious wrote: You reckon military service is the solution?

There are pros and cons. If they don't join, you get a better military service. If they are required to, everybody has skin in the game.[/quote]

The key word here would be *every(able)body*.