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Shaf wrote:What I'm say is that up until Hitler betrayed Stalin, Germany and the USSR were allies whom admired and respected each other. After their falling out, Germany was slowly crushed between the armed forces of the US in the west and the armed forces of the USSR in the east.

"armed forces of the US" started to war only in 1944.

"up until Hitler betrayed Stalin, Germany and the USSR were allies" Stalin offers aliense to Cherchl and american president (don't remember name) against Hitler, but they don't wanted in that time.

One of us is a victim of the biggest, most intimidating propaganda machine in the 20th century.

It might be me, but, then again, it might not.

The historical records of Western Europe and the United States hadn't fallen under the sway of the Communist Party, or any other political unit with that much raw power, for that matter.

Shaf wrote:One of us is a victim of the biggest, most intimidating propaganda machine in the 20th century.

Thats really true!!! :)

Bill, I have nothing but respect and admiration for Russia, her people and her culture. On the other hand, I think that Stalin hurt many people. I think it's best to leave it at that. It is natural for people on opposite sides of the world see things differently, but it's also better to focus on what we have in common.

Shaf wrote:What I'm say is that up until Hitler betrayed Stalin, Germany and the USSR were allies

By the way, did you ever heard thet GreatBreatn and Hitler's Germany were allies, before Hitler assault France?

The Munich Agreement (Czech: Mnichovská dohoda; Slovak: Mníchovská dohoda; German: Münchner Abkommen) was an agreement regarding the Sudetenland Crisis among the major powers of Europe after a conference held in Munich, Germany, in 1938 and signed in the early hours of September 30. The purpose of the conference was to discuss the future of Czechoslovakia in the face of territorial demands made by German dictator Adolf Hitler. The agreement, signed by Nazi Germany, France, Britain, and Italy permitted German annexation of Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland. The Sudetenland was of immense strategic importance to Czechoslovakia, as most of its border defenses were situated there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Dictate

Wild Bill: We all know our history here. I'd like to say that my attitude mirror's Fat Cat's above. I don't wish this to become some sort of long argumentive crazy thread like on the kettlebell forum.

Shaf wrote:I don't wish this to become some sort of long argumentive crazy thread like on the kettlebell forum.

So am i.
But it not fair that you are judge USSR fo alliance with Hitler, but not judge France and Britain.
Ok. Enough of politics.

To be clear, I wasn't judging.

The politics of the time had all sorts of stuff going on.

Your perspective as a Russian or ex-Soviet, on Ghengis Khan was interesting.

Hi american girls! )))))
I am from Russia, sql.ru forum.
With pleasure read your topic about Stalin and "Red Infections"
You understand in the politician exactly so how much to you speaks about Dg.Bush and the your opinion on it at you cannot be.
You have destroyed Iraq
You have destroyed Afghanistan
You have destroyed Serbia
And now try to launch war on Kavkaz(Osetiya, Abhaziya) in Georgiya
Your governors that today that yesterday are worse nothing Gitler
Good night bastards!

sens wrote:Hi american girls! )))))
I am from Russia, sql.ru forum.
With pleasure read your topic about Stalin and "Red Infections"
You understand in the politician exactly so how much to you speaks about Dg.Bush and the your opinion on it at you cannot be.
You have destroyed Iraq
You have destroyed Afghanistan
You have destroyed Serbia
And now try to launch war on Kavkaz(Osetiya, Abhaziya) in Georgiya
Your governors that today that yesterday are worse nothing Gitler
Good night bastards!

Loads of sig material.

This Gitler must have been horrible.

Hi
American!
I am from Russia, sql.ru forum.

What i want to say is America is the best country in the world. i think it is one of liveable country. To be honest i know many people who left RU and they live in America .i guess than life in America much better than life in Russia.

As example.

1)There is a lot of corruption in RU. There is a lot of danger in RU. I am seating and looking through the window at pedestrian crossing now. Noone driver want to stop before pedestrians. There is 30 000 people die on the road in Russian every year.

2) it is not possible to buy bachalor flat in Moscow. it costs 250 000 $ but average salary is 1 000$ in Moscow.

Fat Cat wrote:This Gitler must have been horrible.

Sorry, I have forgotten as to write correctly Hitler, not Gitler

Kolya wrote: What i want to say is America is the best country in the world. i think it is one of liveable country. To be honest i know many people who left RU and they live in America .i guess than life in America much better than life in Russia.

Dont worry Kolyan!
when to the power has come Elzcin, untying corruption and destroying the country, all Americans slapped hands together and rejoiced to a victory Democracy(at Russian Dermocracy or Shirtcracy)

CP wrote: Loads of sig material.

I have not understood sense of a phrase.
"It is a lot of letters?" - Is it?

sens wrote:

Fat Cat wrote:This Gitler must have been horrible.

Sorry, I have forgotten as to write correctly Hitler, not Gitler

sens wrote:

Kolya wrote: What i want to say is America is the best country in the world. i think it is one of liveable country. To be honest i know many people who left RU and they live in America .i guess than life in America much better than life in Russia.

Dont worry Kolyan!
when to the power has come Elzcin, untying corruption and destroying the country, all Americans slapped hands together and rejoiced to a victory Democracy(at Russian Dermocracy or Shirtcracy)

i agree with you. Democracy killed many people in our country. Democracy serve as a screen to get control on OIL! Oil is the main aim for America. I know that America killed a lot of people in Irac. But i want to say that life in America much better than in Russia.

Kolya wrote: i agree with you. Democracy killed many people in our country. Democracy serve as a screen to get control on OIL! Oil is the main aim for America. I know that America killed a lot of people in Irac. But i want to say that life in America much better than in Russia.

Who does not argue what to live there better. But we here speak about troubles which bears America in foreign policy. But they very much like to argue what bad was Stalin
It is possible to think Cherchil than that was better

Jack wrote:Back to the movie.

I put it in Netfwix and goddamn thing is on hold! Must be in demands.

according to my netflix it's not out till october....

Just yesterday i read about Kulikovskaya battle :) It when Dmitriy Donskoy defeated mongols :) So this topik burning for me :)
But this was not Ghengis Khan. It was almost 300 years since...

What is Russian opinion of Robert Conquest's history of Stalin?
As they say the BalkanS : "Jebente maturu pichku."

steamboatwillie wrote:What is Russian opinion of Robert Conquest's history of Stalin?

I dont know :)

Find it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Conquest

"By his estimates, Stalinist famines and purges had led to the deaths of 20 million people."

:))))))))))))) - it my opinion :)

But in Russia situation the same, that in this topik. For one Stalin hero, for other demon. (for me - hero :) )