The couch thread

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:39 pm

It is about that time, isn' it?

I don't think it will be Greg. He hedges his bets pretty well. Catalyst Athletics is also a sponsor for the Gaymes. Smart move, but I can't help but think that, at this point, Greg could do fine without the cult affiliation.

It's hard to think of any current high profile members that Couch would skewer. There are no more Dan Johns or Twights out there. The second and third generation guys knew the routine when they came on board, so they're probably there to stay. Unless Couch just wants to curb stomp a sacrificial lamb, he'll wait a couple weeks for the RRG to fail before going on one of his benders. Get your popcorn ready for that one.

Sofa King · Post by **Sofa King** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:54 pm

WildGorillaMan wrote:
Kraj wrote:She's definitely tempting, but you'd probably be better off sticking your cock in a dumpster full of used syringes on Skid Row than in her.
As opposed to these two lovelies?

http://gopractice.typepad.com/.a/6a0105 ... a86970c-pi

It must be the 'var and the winny (not to mention living on 4 egg whites and seven pistachios a day), because their dentition is too nice for meth-heads.

NSFW for the love of Jeebus. Going back to the ANYC picture to mend my eyes.

Sofa King · Post by **Sofa King** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:03 pm

Gin Master wrote:It is about that time, isn' it?

I don't think it will be Greg. He hedges his bets pretty well. Catalyst Athletics is also a sponsor for the Gaymes. Smart move, but I can't help but think that, at this point, Greg could do fine without the cult affiliation.

It's hard to think of any current high profile members that Couch would skewer. There are no more Dan Johns or Twights out there. The second and third generation guys knew the routine when they came on board, so they're probably there to stay. Unless Couch just wants to curb stomp a sacrificial lamb, he'll wait a couple weeks for the RRG to fail before going on one of his benders. Get your popcorn ready for that one.

Remember, Everett and Wolf were in, then they were out, then they were in again. When Everett was out, he referred to couch as "Glassman" and made references to his stability, need for power, and lack of training acumen. Wolf, on the other hand, never publicly chided couch; couldn't understand his "ouster;" willingly de-affialiated himself when the DJ incident went spinning out of control; started the PM site with Everett and established a pretty good forum; and generally took the high road.

They both came back after struggling to make the big dough on their own. I believe Everett owes more to Burgener than couch. Wolf owes more to being smart as hell about diet. His @fit nutrition seminars should get him $$$ faster.

If anyone gets thrown under the bus by the GWF, it'll be Everett.

Blaidd Drwg · Post by **Blaidd Drwg** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:20 pm

Greg E is also prone to staking out positions and standing on principle...never a strategy for longevity when in the company of an asshat like Couch...

OTOH, Wolf has staying power becuase he can suspend a lot of disbelief... I mean, he actually seems to like and respect De Vany...who is one of the most delusional guru fucktards out there.

Mountebank · Post by **Mountebank** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:53 pm

That new PMenu article by Greg E. is really good (and harsh in not-so-direct ways, the word "delusion" is even used!), y'all should read it if you get a chance. His time in the compound may be limited after that one, for sure...

Shafpocalypse Now · Post by **Shafpocalypse Now** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:03 pm

GE's in and solid. No issues there with HQ. They're resolved.

Look for a lambasting of the less than successful affiiliates, and essentially unknown individuals. Couch is focused on this Caviston and RRG thing.

Earlier I was thinking a Rip fallout, but that's probably not going to happen.

Maybe, just maybe, he'll flip on the Crossfit Endurance sub-14 milers.

Jason · Post by **Jason** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:32 pm

This is alarming:

Have any of you or your clients ever suffer from Global Transient Amnesia?

My wife trained a client yesterday and had a bout of amnesia at the conclusion of the training session. Dr. said that it can be triggered by either pshychological or physical stress.

Thanks!

Comment #53 - Posted by: Richard at April 29, 2009 8:10 PM

Alfred_E._Neuman · Post by **Alfred_E._Neuman** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:38 pm

Jason wrote:This is alarming:

Have any of you or your clients ever suffer from Global Transient Amnesia?

My wife trained a client yesterday and had a bout of amnesia at the conclusion of the training session. Dr. said that it can be triggered by either pshychological or physical stress.

Thanks!

Comment #53 - Posted by: Richard at April 29, 2009 8:10 PM

God damn. Workouts that can put you in the hospital pissing what's left of your kidneys into the shitter, and give you amnesia. No wonder they need to form their own "insurance" company to cover their ass.

Sofa King · Post by **Sofa King** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:45 pm

GE wrote:Anyone can throw a list of exercises and numbers on a whiteboard; far fewer can create workouts that, over a given period of time, ensure an athlete accomplishes his or her goals.

Tick, tick, tick, tick,
:-" :-"

fatbastard · Post by **fatbastard** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:00 pm

God damn. Workouts that can put you in the hospital pissing what's left of your kidneys into the shitter, and give you amnesia. No wonder they need to form their own "insurance" company to cover their ass.

He's betting that they won't remember what put them there in the first place.

When an episode of transient global amnesia is over, you remember nothing that happened while your memory was impaired, and you might not recall the hours beforehand. Otherwise, though, your memory is fine.

Gary John · Post by **Gary John** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:01 pm

I think I posted this here. Was at Greg's new Catalyst gym that he opened in Sunnyvale CA.
Robb was also there.

We avoided the obvious conversation.

Alfred_E._Neuman · Post by **Alfred_E._Neuman** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:02 pm

Sofa King wrote:
GE wrote:Anyone can throw a list of exercises and numbers on a whiteboard; far fewer can create workouts that, over a given period of time, ensure an athlete accomplishes his or her goals.
Tick, tick, tick, tick,
:-" :-"

The thing about @F for me is that there are a lot of housewives who don't give a shit about any particular performance goals. They only want to get in a good workout that isn't boring as hell, burn some calories, and maybe put on a little muscle to look better at the pool. And a workout that's just a list of exercises and numbers on a whiteboard could well suit them to a T. Throw in some motivation to get them to push a little harder and keep it interesing. It's all good*.

Where they make me want to strange someone is when they claim that those same workouts are going to produce top shelf results in every sport man has ever comepted in. And their results will be better than people who spend their whole lives training to be the best at those sports.

*as long as you keep the douche baggery out. No stupid shit like Oly lifting for time or other @F garbage.

Mountebank · Post by **Mountebank** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:03 pm

Sofa King wrote:
GE wrote:Anyone can throw a list of exercises and numbers on a whiteboard; far fewer can create workouts that, over a given period of time, ensure an athlete accomplishes his or her goals.
Tick, tick, tick, tick,
:-" :-"

That's what I'm sayin'...

Other gems from Greg's article:

Greg Everett PMenu #52 wrote:So why should we compromise any element of fitness at anytime? Because in order to genuinely emphasize one element, we need to create slack elsewhere. There is a very real limit to how much the human body can handle simultaneously, and attempting to perform at 100% across the board at all times is a guaranteed recipe for stagnation if not utter disaster.
[...]
The funny thing (maybe not funny—more exasperating, I suppose) is that nearly every CrossFitter does in fact plan and emphasize certain elements to some extent, knowingly or not (the only ones who don’t are the same folks who flail around helplessly in the rest of their lives as well). Every CrossFitter knows what he or she sucks at most—and, thankfully, sucking at exercise-related things is discouraged in the CrossFit community (although sucking seems to be quite popular…).
[...]
In any case, goals need to be limited in number during any given period—the classic rookie mistake is trying to do everything at the same time to the same degree (Sound like anyone you know?).

I could read Greg's stuff all day. Someone should watch the @F forum for "discussion" of this article...

Guiseppie · Post by **Guiseppie** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:22 pm

Resident Quack wrote: Other gems from Greg's article:
Greg Everett PMenu #52 wrote:So why should we compromise any element of fitness at anytime? Because in order to genuinely emphasize one element, we need to create slack elsewhere. There is a very real limit to how much the human body can handle simultaneously, and attempting to perform at 100% across the board at all times is a guaranteed recipe for stagnation if not utter disaster.

Yeah, it bugs me when die-hards have the audacity to suggest, "Yeah, you can get plenty good at <insert skill here> just by doing skill-specific work before the WOD."

Mmmm, ok...have you ever seen the results of this after 6 months? Doing the Burgener warm-up with an empty bar or flailing around on the rings for 10 minutes a day really is not conducive to making significant progress.

TerryB · Post by **TerryB** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:22 pm

I do the hard work so you don't have too: a day in the life of the Cultfuck Comments page (well, half day really...):

I just broke one of my Soldiers doing dips(he only got to ten, it was some kind of freak accident), today. This is going to suck!!!

Comment #15 - Posted by: Travis L @ Stewart at April 29, 2009 5:25 PM

Not sure my hemorroid will be healed in time. If not, I'll do power cleans but will set the bar to 165.

Will see ... and feel ... tomorrow !

Comment #18 - Posted by: Tou at April 29, 2009 5:33 PM

LOL- more dips! I cannot even brush my teeth tonight without cringing. Actually, still so sore all over, I can't do anything- open a door, get in the car,etc- without cringing ;)

Erin

Comment #31 - Posted by: in8girl at April 29, 2009 6:22 PM

The last time this one came up I injured my knee and is still not back to where it was... I really miss doing cleans

Comment #36 - Posted by: Ross D at April 29, 2009 6:40 PM

Have any of you or your clients ever suffer from Global Transient Amnesia?

My wife trained a client yesterday and had a bout of amnesia at the conclusion of the training session. Dr. said that it can be triggered by either pshychological or physical stress.

Thanks!

Comment #53 - Posted by: Richard at April 29, 2009 8:10 PM

With regards to the RRG:

A lot of affiliates that haven't signed up yet may not know this, but at least one of (and with likely more to follow) the popular insurance carriers for CrossFit gyms will no longer grant policies starting very soon. If others follow suit then you will not be able to find insurance. This is bad not only because it leaves you exposed, but check your licensing agreements... yep, there it is, must provide sufficient insurance and name CrossFit Inc. as additional insured....

Comment #62 - Posted by: John Brown at April 29, 2009 8:44 PM

Showing a friend of mine how to do assisted hand stand push ups today in the gym. Luckily the free weights area was quiet, so i kicked up into a hand stand and my buddy Ray grabs my legs and lifts me upside down.

So far so good, well not actually! In Ray's eagerness to grab me tight and lift me up he manages to pull my tracksuit pants down around my ankles, so im now upside down, pants around my ankles shouting at Ray to let me the F$!k down!
He lets go and i collapse into a heap on the floor frantically pulling my pants back up before anyone sees me.

Last time i try HSPU's on the rings!

P.s My boxers stayed on!

Comment #91 - Posted by: Gerard McAuliffe at April 30, 2009 3:51 AM

Spin class, brutal. I stated this workout, but my legs no longer worked. Probably do it tomorrow.

Comment #109 - Posted by: Joe Casale/m/35/5'5"/165lbs at April 30, 2009 5:27 AM

m/38/175/5'10

Scaled to Pack -
100 lbs from deadlift no catch in the squat
21-15-9 dips

Couldn't do double the dips - chest still so sore from Mondays WOD

Had to cash out on a gravitron to get the rest of the dips...

9:14

Comment #115 - Posted by: ChicagoNick at April 30, 2009 6:04 AM

47m, 205#, 6'0"

...One of the things I really like about these high rep workouts is that I sometimes notice that I have "accidently" done something more efficiently. Today, I felt myself really aggressively pulling myself under the bar during the catch. I needed to do that because of the fatigue setting in and it was a really cool feeling. I really like how these kind of Crossfit workouts "trick" us into that kind of technical improvement. Anyone else notice this sort of thing, too?

Comment #130 - Posted by: Jim Evans at April 30, 2009 6:36 AM

Subbed 2 bar dips for 1 ring dip

time 17:11

I dropped the bar on my shins, god that hurt.

Comment #155 - Posted by: DJD at April 30, 2009 8:12 AM

snatches one day, then high pulls and ring dips, then max effort shoulder presses, now more ring dips... crossfit is killing my shoulders and i don't mean softly

Comment #157 - Posted by: danny at April 30, 2009 8:20 AM

tweaked my trap/neck during the shoulderama of the last 3 workouts. Warmed up really well and did my first 135lb clean and my trap told me to "expletive off". Soooo i did:

5x5 bodyweight deadlift (165) to work on my crappy form

then 10 mins total reps of burpees box jumps, 36" box- 56 reps

Comment #225 - Posted by: Boss - M/30/6'/165 at April 30, 2009 10:59 AM

and I didn't even bother quoting all the fags who "scaled" their cleans to a whopping 95 lbs.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:29 pm

fatbastard wrote:
God damn. Workouts that can put you in the hospital pissing what's left of your kidneys into the shitter, and give you amnesia. No wonder they need to form their own "insurance" company to cover their ass.

He's betting that they won't remember what put them there in the first place.

When an episode of transient global amnesia is over, you remember nothing that happened while your memory was impaired, and you might not recall the hours beforehand. Otherwise, though, your memory is fine.

Sweet. The old "wake up in a tub full of ice in a New Orleans hotel with your kidney gone" is now playing at a @F gym near you.

Gary John wrote:I think I posted this here. Was at Greg's new Catalyst gym that he opened in Sunnyvale CA.
Robb was also there.

We avoided the obvious conversation.

I'm guessing they didn't ask you to do Tran.

protobuilder wrote:
With regards to the RRG:

A lot of affiliates that haven't signed up yet may not know this, but at least one of (and with likely more to follow) the popular insurance carriers for CrossFit gyms will no longer grant policies starting very soon. If others follow suit then you will not be able to find insurance. This is bad not only because it leaves you exposed, but check your licensing agreements... yep, there it is, must provide sufficient insurance and name CrossFit Inc. as additional insured....

Comment #62 - Posted by: John Brown at April 29, 2009 8:44 PM

Damn. Now the RRG has to cover Rhabdo, amnesia, and hemorrhoids.

The last part reveals Couch's ginius. Apparently the licensing agreement requires that affiliates insure (and I'm sure indemnify) the mother ship against lawsuits. Now that all sensible insurers have fled the coup, the RRG is there to pick up the slack. Couch is turning this operation into a company town.

T200 · Post by **T200** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:30 pm

Is @Fit deviant? thread (I was looking to see if there was a Greg Everett article thread yet but no): http://www.board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=45734" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hi, I just wanted to get some people's take on whether or not CrossFit is deviant behavior. I am currently a college senior and in my class, 'deviance,' we are studying behaviors, conditions, and acts that are considered deviant. For a final paper, we have to select a deviant individual, group, organization or behavior that we consider deviant, and then research and explain why it is deviant. We also have to compare it to one of the groups that have come into the class to give a presentation (sado-masochism group, transgenders, Vermont Separatist, satanic and ritual worship, and biker gang) For my research I am using participant observation (I've been CrossFitting for over a year now), and the CrossFit journals. I would like to supplement this with some personal feelings from fellow CrossFitters as to if you consider it deviant behavior or not.

Deviance by my definition (there are a millions ways to define it) is behavior or actions that are not generally accepted by the majority of society. We learned that there are 4 ingredients to deviance which are 1) a rule or norm, 2) someone who violates rule/norm, 3) audience, or someone who judges the action as a norm violation, and 4) likelihood of negative reaction. I consider CrossFit deviant behavior due to its followers are a relatively small minority, we are unaccepted by the general gym population (look at the seen at a globo thread) and the negative reaction we have received (getting kicked out of globos, magazine articles) and the inherent risks and pain we suffer through a workout (rhabdo, rips, blisters, and puking). Thanks in advance.

Kraj · Post by **Kraj** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:35 pm

Building up > Tearing down

CrossFitters fail to comprehend that.

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:45 pm

Couch is not a fan of Free Speech Day.

Turdacious · Post by **Turdacious** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:56 pm

Jason wrote:This is alarming:

Have any of you or your clients ever suffer from Global Transient Amnesia?

My wife trained a client yesterday and had a bout of amnesia at the conclusion of the training session. Dr. said that it can be triggered by either pshychological or physical stress.

Thanks!

Comment #53 - Posted by: Richard at April 29, 2009 8:10 PM

Easier than explaining the kind of 'training' she was giving her client.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:20 pm

Gawddamn I love Cultfit.

Grandpa's Spells · Post by **Grandpa's Spells** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:36 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop · Post by **Fuzzy Dunlop** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:46 pm

which one of you is posting as Kenny Fucking Powers over at cathletics? see 4/29 comments.

would like to have seen greg e respond to the igx reference, no dice tho.

Holland Oates · Post by **Holland Oates** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:07 pm

Kenny - Bulletproof tiger, dude. IGx is pretty much my RSS feed (Thanks fellas). Better than the google machine. - Greg Everett

LMFAO
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Gin Master · Post by **Gin Master** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:15 pm

Careful, Greg. That won't get you invited to the Level 4 cert.

IGX

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