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I wouldn't call someone soon to be graduating with a masters in exercise physiology a scientist. A well-educated student perhaps. The number of exercise physiologists who've coached an athlete to greatness are pretty low.

Making up a nebulous story about high school athletes being burned out after using intervals is rather specious. Over-training is over-training. It really doesn't matter what caused it, as much as that it does happen. Any form of exercise misapplied will usually end up being a mistake.

Again, explain to me why, if @Fit can be infinitely scaled, why couch won't do a workout, but Kyle Maynard can fucking crawl to the top of Mt. Kilimanjaro?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/1 ... 09654.html

Squat holds with a gas mask..... E-fucking-lite




love the rounded backs in the back ground.....

The empty child's gotta stay in shape.

RudyK wrote:Squat holds with a gas mask..... E-fucking-lite




love the rounded backs in the back ground.....

Hey man, can't you read? This is Sparta!

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:I wouldn't call someone soon to be graduating with a masters in exercise physiology a scientist. A well-educated student perhaps. The number of exercise physiologists who've coached an athlete to greatness are pretty low.

Knowledge and good coaching can be mutually exclusive. However, if you're talking about greatness, having potentially great athletes to coach is about being in the right place at the right time and/or knowing the right people. Most truly great athletes are amazing in spite of what their trainers do to them. The rest of us use knowledge and good sense to make the mediocre above average and keep them from injuring themselves on the field.

However, speaking solely about his article, the drawbacks to CF that he explains are based in studies on humans and reflects the bulk of the current research rather than cherry-picked articles to draw vast conclusions from. That's how you write as a scientist, and not a an opinionated blogger with a point to prove. That's what stood out to me. And he didn't use the word "fuck", or any of its derivatives, to prove his point.

The problem is, if you are in the business of personal training, or training athletes, you will find yourself constantly defending your practices in the face of the Kool-aid, so its not surprising to me that more and more coaches and trainers are speaking out about it publicly. And it goes both ways, either they perceive your training methods as not "hard-core" enough (well, until they actually go through one), or ask if what you are doing is @f because you use circuits.

So if I start doing my kettlebelling in gasmask and NBC suit that will make me super elite?
In all domains I mean?

Coaches should coach and let their athlete's results speak for themselves.

Dan Martin wrote:Coaches should coach and let their athlete's results speak for themselves.

Yeah...all this bloggin and talkin and knowledge shit. Where does Dan John get off?

Blaidd Drwg wrote:

Dan Martin wrote:Coaches should coach and let their athlete's results speak for themselves.

Yeah...all this bloggin and talkin and knowledge shit. Where does Dan John get off?

The balls on him...

The problem, Syaigh, is you came to physical training via @F, and therefore you think it matters.

The proper thing to do is to keep on coaching athletes and training clients and getting results for them, and ignoring it.

Turdacious wrote:The empty child's gotta stay in shape.

Are you my mummy?

WildGorillaMan wrote: Also known as:

What happens when an exercise science blogger decides to boost his site traffic and put himself on the map.

Writing a takedown on @fit is the new way to get noticed but really his arguments, as sound as they are are all footnotes to the couch thread.

Context...you fuckers have about ZERO re: the world outside the couch thread. This isn't some flash to boost traffic. CF Endurance is a big deal in the slow twitch crowd, a lot of controversy and lot of people debating the "merits". I've had 3 former cycling teammates get in touch to ask me about this "CF thing" so it's nice to see what should been my response. I read the balance of this Magness guy's blog postings. He's quite good. His science chops are as good as any other guru y'all slobber over, the sciences seems fairly interpreted and his experience is legit and grounded.

Everyone up in here just so busy to establish their cred as the Reformed OG Crossfit Basher.

Lulz.

He does tackle it better than most, I'll give you that.

For those who didn't see, CFE got some print time in Runners World, which means an fuck ton of 10 minute milers will be looking to try it out.

I have great success story with regards to a runner myself. She wanted try kettlebells, and she has been coming in 1-2x weekly for 9 months now. The other day she ran a 5K. Went from 12 minute miles to 9 minute miles. She's mid-40s. The simple fact that she learned how to work like a dog doing the kettlebell stuff and to ignore the searing lungs and lactic acid, make her that much faster.

Bmac got coverage in triathlete and Outside for sure...not sure where else...worst fucking thing was one friend guy i was talking to is a legit regional contender in cyclocross and with the right supplements a national contender. He had heard about it THIRD hand from someone in the peloton who wanted to try CF for their off season. recipe for a ruined cycling careers all round.

Like Danny John says...too much middle...only the middle is all the shit that a cyclocross guy doesn't need that Crossfit wants to beef up in him.

the middle is the death zone.

there's a great great article by Ned Overend (classic old school hard guy in cross and MTB) about this, I want to say it's from 1992-3..hugely influential on the way i trained then and the way i think about training now. if i was a better thinkist i would think it through and write more on that.

syaigh wrote:The problem is, if you are in the business of personal training, or training athletes, you will find yourself constantly defending your practices in the face of the Kool-aid, so its not surprising to me that more and more coaches and trainers are speaking out about it publicly. And it goes both ways, either they perceive your training methods as not "hard-core" enough (well, until they actually go through one), or ask if what you are doing is @f because you use circuits.

Exactly. I find myself having to explain this all the time. CF is what the public thinks any time they see something other than machines. If you're using a kettlebell, you must be doing CF.

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:The problem, Syaigh, is you came to physical training via @F, and therefore you think it matters.

The proper thing to do is to keep on coaching athletes and training clients and getting results for them, and ignoring it.

That may be the best long term but dealing with a large number of people that think you do CF can be tiring.

To the public, this may as well be CF:

Denison has a beautiful facility.

Shafpocalypse Now wrote:Denison has a beautiful facility.

and either i'm really old..or those look like middle schoolers.

yup. i'm old

On an unrelated note, there was an @fit chick lifting at Teh Ahnuld that caught my eye. Samantha Wright is built for speed, my friends.
WGM, do your thing, mang.

ButterCupPowerRanch wrote:On an unrelated note, there was an @fit chick lifting at Teh Ahnuld that caught my eye. Samantha Wright is built for speed, my friends.
WGM, do your thing, mang.

Ah, Sam is a former gymnast from Philly. She is hot shit.

I wouldn`t know as no one has posted any pictures and I`m to lazy to search myself.

http://www.contactmusic.com/news/gerard ... ab_1297360

Gerard Butler is reportedly in rehab.

The Hollywood actor has been receiving treatment for substance abuse at the Betty Ford Center in California after entering the facility three weeks ago.

According to TMZ.com, the 'Bounty Hunter' star realised he was becoming dependent on prescription drugs, with the problems beginning while shooting '300' in 2006 which resulted in him taking painkillers for various injuries he picked up during filming.

The question is, how much of this is due to his Gym Jones workouts, which @F says they stole from them, which just means another body for their trail.

When and if the injuries ever come out, that could be humorous if they are some of the typical ones we see.