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Last year was the hottest on record for the contiguous United States, shattering the previous mark set in 1998 by a wide margin, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration announced Tuesday.

The average temperature was 55.3 degrees, 1 degree above the previous record and 3.2 degrees more than the 20th-century average. Temperatures were above normal in every month between June 2011 and September 2012, a 16-month stretch that hasn’t occurred since the government began keeping such records in 1895.

Federal scientists said that the data are compelling evidence that climate change is affecting weather in the United States and suggest that the nation’s weather is likely to be hotter, drier and potentially more extreme than it would have been without the warmer temperatures.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... ml?hpid=z1

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haAhdtDmsOw[/youtube]

It is certainly $%#-ing with my skiing back East.

Just curious, why would we not expect the temperature to rise to what it was before the little ice age?

Lewis Medlock wrote:Just curious, why would we not expect the temperature to rise to what it was before the little ice age?

Burn the Witch!

Strangely, "You don't NEED that Minivan" doesn't seem to be as common of a rallying cry as "You don't NEED that gun."

Not sure if minivans or Priuses would make my snow training any better this year, though.

Commercial traffic along America's busiest waterway is in danger of grinding to a halt as a record drought continues across much of the U.S.

The U.S Army Corps of Engineers and the Coast Guard are keeping federal and state officials briefed on the state of the Mississippi River, which normally carries close to $3 billion in commodities every January.

what's going to cost more, addressing the problem or ignoring it?

dead man walking wrote:

Commercial traffic along America's busiest waterway is in danger of grinding to a halt as a record drought continues across much of the U.S.

The U.S Army Corps of Engineers and the Coast Guard are keeping federal and state officials briefed on the state of the Mississippi River, which normally carries close to $3 billion in commodities every January.

what's going to cost more, addressing the problem or ignoring it?

Let's purchase carbon offsets from one of Al Gore's companies. He does and he loves the environment. Ask the Emir of Qatar.

ddl,

gore-bashing is shoot-the-messenger triviality that is beneath you.

dead man walking wrote:

Commercial traffic along America's busiest waterway is in danger of grinding to a halt as a record drought continues across much of the U.S.

The U.S Army Corps of Engineers and the Coast Guard are keeping federal and state officials briefed on the state of the Mississippi River, which normally carries close to $3 billion in commodities every January.

what's going to cost more, addressing the problem or ignoring it?

Just curious, why would we not expect the temerature to rise to what it was before the little ice age?

Protesting the proposed planet killing airport in Nantes, France and effectively representing climate change activists everywhere:

From Wired
I can't wait to see these guys living in their native arctic latitudes when science revivifies the species.

The remains of an extinct species of giant camel have been discovered on Ellesmere Island in the Arctic region of Canada.

The creature was identified thanks to analysis of 30 fossilised fragments of leg bone, each around 3.5 million years old, placing them firmly in the mid-Pliocene. Additional evidence from the surrounding area allowed the research team to conclude that this was likely a High Arctic camel -- a previously unknown species which lived in the forests of the Arctic during a global warm period.

Apparently there are global warm periods that aren't caused by man.....maybe by camels.

DrDonkeyLove wrote:From Wired
I can't wait to see these guys living in their native arctic latitudes when science revivifies the species.

The remains of an extinct species of giant camel have been discovered on Ellesmere Island in the Arctic region of Canada.

The creature was identified thanks to analysis of 30 fossilised fragments of leg bone, each around 3.5 million years old, placing them firmly in the mid-Pliocene. Additional evidence from the surrounding area allowed the research team to conclude that this was likely a High Arctic camel -- a previously unknown species which lived in the forests of the Arctic during a global warm period.

Apparently there are global warm periods that aren't caused by man.....maybe by camels.

I'd hit it

Global temperatures are warmer than at any time in at least 4,000 years, scientists reported Thursday, and over the coming decades are likely to surpass levels not seen on the planet since before the last ice age.

Previous research had extended back roughly 1,500 years, and suggested that the rapid temperature spike of the past century, believed to be a consequence of human activity, exceeded any warming episode during those years. The new work confirms that result while suggesting the modern warming is unique over a longer period.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/08/scien ... .html?_r=0

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k[/youtube]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... along.html

You know, maybe if so many far, far left nuts, draft dodging academics and even communist have not invested into this issue so much we could get the politics out of it?

The conservative are there because like snakes, they go where the rats are.

One thing is for sure, belching filth into the sky can't be good fpr the air and water, or us. No matter what the effects on the temps are.

I am leery of a lot of this shit that wants everyone to change RIGHT NOW! that fucks industry and therefore jobs, the economy and our quality of life.

I am all for a measured, medium slow movement towards cleaner emissions and alternative fuels.

But Al Gore and Van Jones can go fucking die as can Rush Limbaugh on this.

And if we fuck our economy with all this gotta stop now shit, will the Chinese?

Fuck the spotted owl if it means my kids live under the living standards of some dink. Its not their birthright to live better but it's been that way do to a better system and society and I'd like that not to change for us for the worse because green is the new Red.

the trend with arctic sea ice

http://www.skepticalscience.com/feb-201 ... piral.html

Turdacious wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVE60zwXx1k[/youtube]

Gives new meaning to asking your wife to "hop on into bed."

Pretty sure Mark Knopfler wrote a song about this life lesson. Sometimes you're the Chimpanzee, Sometimes You're the Frog.

Lewis Medlock wrote:

dead man walking wrote:

Commercial traffic along America's busiest waterway is in danger of grinding to a halt as a record drought continues across much of the U.S.

The U.S Army Corps of Engineers and the Coast Guard are keeping federal and state officials briefed on the state of the Mississippi River, which normally carries close to $3 billion in commodities every January.

what's going to cost more, addressing the problem or ignoring it?

Just curious, why would we not expect the temerature to rise to what it was before the little ice age?

<crickets>

http://ossfoundation.us/projects/enviro ... ural-cycle

Is global warming a natural cycle? Or is global warming affected by human influence? What does the science say? Both are true. In the natural cycle, the world can warm, and cool, without any human interference. For the past million years this has occurred over and over again at 100,000 year intervals. About 80-90,000 years of ice age with about 10-20,000 years of warm period.

The difference is that in the natural cycle CO2 lags behind the warming because it is mainly due to the Milankovitch cycles. Now CO2 is leading the warming. Current warming is clearly not natural cycle. The earths natural cycles, if human industrial output had not been involved, would have us near or slightly below thermal equilibrium, possibly slightly cooling. [emphasis added]

In other words, if we were in the natural cycle without human influence, the forcing levels would likely be around 0W/m2 to -0.1W/m2. We are currently experiencing a positive forcing of around 3.6 to 3.8W/m2 and a human induced negative forcing of around 2W/m2. The resultant forcing, depending on current levels and the Schwabe cycle is around +1.6W/m2 above natural cycle as estimated.

DARTH wrote:You know, maybe if so many far, far left nuts, draft dodging academics and even communist have not invested into this issue so much we could get the politics out of it?

far left nuts?

Navy Admiral Samuel Locklear III is in charge of keeping an eye on North Korea, on the progression of tensions between China and Japan, and on cybersecurity threats from China. But he still thinks the biggest security threat in the Pacific is climate change. [emphasis added]

“People are surprised sometimes” by his threat assessment, he said,

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... hina-bigg/

Lewis Medlock wrote:Just curious, why would we not expect the temerature to rise to what it was before the little ice age?

Lovely begging the question here.

In a recent article in the journal Science, researchers at Oregon State University and Harvard explained how they used marine fossils to piece together a rough temperature record going back 11,300 years to the most recent ice age. That record indicates that the Earth warmed as it emerged from the ice age, followed by a long-term cooling trend. The cooling continued until the industrial revolution, when humans began burning fossil fuels in earnest — and pumping heat-trapping greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. Then the temperature spiked. With the amount of carbon dioxide already in the atmosphere, models suggest, the Earth’s average temperature in 2100 will surpass that detectable in any of the millennia studied.

The most dramatic implication of the study is not the magnitude of the current warming but its extremely rapid pace. The authors note that the Earth has warmed over the past century as much as it cooled over several millennia before that, with no similar spike detectable in the data. That finding would be yet more strong evidence against climate skeptics who cling to the wishful thinking that global warming is an entirely natural phenomenon.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html

dead man walking wrote:

DARTH wrote:You know, maybe if so many far, far left nuts, draft dodging academics and even communist have not invested into this issue so much we could get the politics out of it?

far left nuts?

Navy Admiral Samuel Locklear III is in charge of keeping an eye on North Korea, on the progression of tensions between China and Japan, and on cybersecurity threats from China. But he still thinks the biggest security threat in the Pacific is climate change. [emphasis added]

“People are surprised sometimes” by his threat assessment, he said,

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... hina-bigg/

Yes Van Jones, Al Gore, George Sorros and a slew of radical left shit bags are on your side of the fence and throw a lot of money and disinformation into the stew.

Again I'm not closed to the idea that we are effecting climate but that side of the fence is very dismissive about the FACT that it has gone up and down on it's own before we put more in the air than coooking fire smoke and farts.

And even if you are right, the sky is not falling and the idea, many of the aforementioned players and UN cunts advance is that the Western world has to change but the Chinks get a pass?

Then the problem does not get helped and we put ourselves at a severe disadvantage. Fuck that.