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They are going to come and take our guns!!

Kazuya Mishima wrote:

Beer Jew wrote:

Kazuya Mishima wrote:These poor peoples' bodies.....A time to lean on each other and somehow make it through?

Have I stepped through the rabbit hole into some alternate dimension, or has someone hacked Kaz's account?

Meh...it's a horrible tragedy. My distaste for black culture and behavior doesn't preclude me from feeling sympathy when something like this happens to innocent people. These weren't ghetto thugs gunned down in a drug deal gone wrong. Innocent church goers targeted by a lonely loser...very sad.

While I don't share your distaste for black culture, I think a lot of white people are in utter denial of some obvious massive problems that have zip to do with poverty, racism, or any other excuse--and they intensify and perpetuate many problems we see in the American Black Community at large. With that said, this event and any of the multitude of lessor events, are all nauseating. As you said, those killed were all very likely some very fine people.

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: I think a lot of white people are in utter denial of some obvious massive problems that have zip to do with poverty, racism, or any other excuse

Like what?

Terry B wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: I think a lot of white people are in utter denial of some obvious massive problems that have zip to do with poverty, racism, or any other excuse

Like what?

That's all he had.

Don't ask for specifics.

Protobuilder wrote:

Terry B wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: I think a lot of white people are in utter denial of some obvious massive problems that have zip to do with poverty, racism, or any other excuse

Like what?

That's all he had.

Don't ask for specifics.

LOL....here ya go.

(Violent) Street Crime--mostly black on black crime.

Children being raised, often in bulk, without fathers or father figures.

'Jewel in the Crown' mentality--for you crackas who don't know, that's the intentional effort to get multiple women pregnant out of wedlock, with them having the kids with no intention of 'being there' for them.

Fraud, waste, and abuse of social services as an entitled norm.

The reality is, the majority of blacks, even those living in poorer communities, do none of the above. Which is why the poverty argument is nearly always a crock of shit as is the racism argument.

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:

Protobuilder wrote:

Terry B wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote: I think a lot of white people are in utter denial of some obvious massive problems that have zip to do with poverty, racism, or any other excuse

Like what?

That's all he had.

Don't ask for specifics.

LOL....here ya go.

(Violent) Street Crime--mostly black on black crime.

Children being raised, often in bulk, without fathers or father figures.

'Jewel in the Crown' mentality--for you crackas who don't know, that's the intentional effort to get multiple women pregnant out of wedlock, with them having the kids with no intention of 'being there' for them.

Fraud, waste, and abuse of social services as an entitled norm.

The reality is, the majority of blacks, even those living in poorer communities, do none of the above. Which is why the poverty argument is nearly always a crock of shit as is the racism argument.

When I saw your earlier post I didn't see the word 'racism' and assumed that was what you were alluding to.

Of course there are complex issues. Nobody is going to address them either because it appears that society doesn't have the attention span nor the willpower to really think through complex issues. Everybody has their own plan to ensure this 'never happens again' and all are simplistic notions that are able to be described in 140 characters or less but which do nothing to address the real situation. Ban guns! Arm everybody! Whites are racists! It's the damn Confederate flag!

I hear ya, Proto.

The other elephant in the room is that the problems I've mentioned are relatively new for the most part....1980's to present....right around the genesis of political correctness, white guilt coming out of the closet, and the ensuing pacification, excuse making, and unintentional enablement of those problems.

The percentage of black kids being born out of wedlock is approaching 80%. To be certain, the vast majority of blacks who are reproducing are engaging in that shitbird behavior, and the black nuclear family is about as common as dodo birds.

Doesn't explain this violent act, but it does contribute to the overall zeitgeist of black fatigue that is settling over white Murikkka.

I am largely agnostic on and uninterested in the causation of US black pathology.

I think it is almost always used as or becomes a sidetrack away from the issue of its true extent and answering the question of how do we deal with it...

And that sick little thing sat there for an hour with some of the most noble people in the country and saw what they were and how they embraced him and he still shot them.

I would pay money to flip the switch or pull the trigger on that thing. And then I would throw a party.

bennyonesix wrote:I am largely agnostic on and uninterested in the causation of US black pathology.

I think it is almost always used as or becomes a sidetrack away from the issue of its true extent and answering the question of how do we deal with it...

And that sick little thing sat there for an hour with some of the most noble people in the country and saw what they were and how they embraced him and he still shot them.

He killed the people who recognized what he was (lost and looking for something to believe in) and gave him what he craved (acceptance). It's like the plot of a Flannery O'Connor novel-- even the relatives of the dead are giving him a chance at redemption.

There's a lot of criticism about black churches, and a lot of it is very valid. In this case, the national debate leaves the critical point out-- that the the dead from this black church, and their relatives, got the hard things right. Not many churches do simple old school Christianity well, and they did. The race, gun, and social program angles are just sideshows being cynically and wrongly promoted to the main act.

bennyonesix wrote:
I think it is almost always used as or becomes a sidetrack away from the issue of its true extent and answering the question of how do we deal with it...

For starters, libs of all colors need to call a spade a spade.

EDIT: libs need to own the mess, but I think everyone needs to get a little down to earth on the matter before any of it is dealt with, which as proto said, is probably never.

Wow. I need to ponder that Flannery O'Connor angle... Good call.

The speeches from the families of the slain make me choke up. It is actually Christ-like.

Ehhh... Black Christianity gets a bum rap. The radical churches are incredibly few and far between...

bennyonesix wrote:Black Christianity gets a bum rap. The radical churches are incredibly few and far between...

This.

Most of you morons need to stop the Kaz-infested narrative.

Reality is much different.

You may not like their politics, which is influenced by their history and the role the federal government played in it, but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

Terry B wrote:but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

This seems to be the consensus anytime race comes-up here, not sure what you think you're seeing.

I see the usual IGx "take our evil guns" ass clowns came out.

This kid was going going to kill some black people, gun or no gun. The little fucker sat there with his victims for an hour while they welcomed him and treated him like a decent human being. His response to their kindness was to murder them without mercy.

Roof is a human crocodile and should put down like the rabid dog he is.


All of the retards waxing on about Australia or Europe etc and gun control, leave out the inconvenient fact that these countries also infring on other unalienable rights. Free speech and Freedom of Religion are amongst the the other rights these countries curtail.

As blaiddog pointed out, some Americans prefer dangerous liberty. We have yet to fall into the degeneracy of Nafod and Spells.

Terry B wrote:

bennyonesix wrote:Black Christianity gets a bum rap. The radical churches are incredibly few and far between...

This.

Most of you morons need to stop the Kaz-infested narrative.

Reality is much different.

You may not like their politics, which is influenced by their history and the role the federal government played in it, but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

I went to a black church a few times in university. It was probably the only church that I've attended that I thought walked the walk.

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:

Terry B wrote:but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

This seems to be the consensus anytime race comes-up here, not sure what you think you're seeing.

Hey faggot, I'm seeing real life instead of looking through fear-filled lenses fueled by mass media imagery and storytelling.

The idiot losers get all the press.

What's happening in Charleston today? Oh that's right, the people whose families were murdered by a white loser just a few days ago are going to church with dignity, fearlessness, and pride.

I guess afterward they'll run to Walmart to fight each other over a shopping cart, buy liquor with their EBT cards, and go smoke joints on the stoop while planning to rob white folks.

Terry B wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:

Terry B wrote:but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

This seems to be the consensus anytime race comes-up here, not sure what you think you're seeing.

Hey faggot, I'm seeing real life instead of looking through fear-filled lenses fueled by mass media imagery and storytelling.

The idiot losers get all the press.

What's happening in Charleston today? Oh that's right, the people whose families were murdered by a white loser just a few days ago are going to church with dignity, fearlessness, and pride.

I guess afterward they'll run to Walmart to fight each other over a shopping cart, buy liquor with their EBT cards, and go smoke joints on the stoop while planning to rob white folks.

Hey, uppity asshat, you should take a minute or three to reread the comments on this thread vs. making assumptions. Not a one implied that those people gunned down and members of that church were anything but decent people.

Then you're suggesting they're an aberration?

Terry B wrote:Then you're suggesting they're an aberration?

Holy fuck, talk about viewing things from a broken lens. I think I have said as recently as yesterday, on this thread, in a reply to you (and Proto), implying the exact opposite. i.e. the major 'black problems' are not caused by the majority of blacks.

Batboy2/75 wrote:All of the retards waxing on about Australia or Europe etc and gun control, leave out the inconvenient fact that these countries also infring on other unalienable rights. Free speech and Freedom of Religion are amongst the the other rights these countries curtail.

lol

Terry Dolezal wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:

Terry B wrote:but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

This seems to be the consensus anytime race comes-up here, not sure what you think you're seeing.

Hey faggot, I'm seeing real life instead of looking through fear-filled lenses fueled by mass media imagery and storytelling.

The idiot losers get all the press.

What's happening in Charleston today? Oh that's right, the people whose families were murdered by a white loser just a few days ago are going to church with dignity, fearlessness, and pride.

I guess afterward they'll run to Walmart to fight each other over a shopping cart, buy liquor with their EBT cards, and go smoke joints on the stoop while planning to rob white folks.

The transformation is complete.

Terry B wrote:

The Venerable Bogatir X wrote:

Terry B wrote:but most are just normal people who want what everyone else wants.

This seems to be the consensus anytime race comes-up here, not sure what you think you're seeing.

Hey faggot, I'm seeing real life instead of looking through fear-filled lenses fueled by mass media imagery and storytelling.

The idiot losers get all the press.

What's happening in Charleston today? Oh that's right, the people whose families were murdered by a white loser just a few days ago are going to church with dignity, fearlessness, and pride.

I guess afterward they'll run to Walmart to fight each other over a shopping cart, buy liquor with their EBT cards, and go smoke joints on the stoop while planning to rob white folks.

In some form or another all of those things will be happening today across many of Amurikkka's tribes. I can't quite figure out your point but I confess that I'm not trying very hard.

Protobuilder wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:All of the retards waxing on about Australia or Europe etc and gun control, leave out the inconvenient fact that these countries also infring on other unalienable rights. Free speech and Freedom of Religion are amongst the the other rights these countries curtail.

lol

Stay out of this thread, you idiot

Terry B wrote:

Protobuilder wrote:

Batboy2/75 wrote:All of the retards waxing on about Australia or Europe etc and gun control, leave out the inconvenient fact that these countries also infring on other unalienable rights. Free speech and Freedom of Religion are amongst the the other rights these countries curtail.

lol

Stay out of this thread, you idiot

Uppity lib (Terry, who is probably from Philly) loves his categorizing and name calling.