The couch thread

[Turdacious]

so make the ex a better offer than anthos has.

Given the history between Couch and his ex, I'm not sure that's possible.

[tzg]

The difference between Lululemon and Reebok is that CrossFitters actually buy Lululemon. I'm kind of confused about how it's a bad thing for somebody close to Lululemon to be associated with CF. I mean, wasn't the Reebok deal the best thing ever for CF?

Oh, wait, this deal might have a payoff for somebody besides Couch.

[dead man walking]

so make the ex a better offer than anthos has.

Given the history between Couch and his ex, I'm not sure that's possible.

i accept it is entirely unlikely.

but if anthos is such a horror to contemplate, then take them out with a better offer.

of course, glassman's modus operandi is to demonize anyone who dares to challenge him or upset his cosy operation.

as i have noted, i wonder what happens if glassman's actions queer the deal. does the ex have some recourse?

[Jay]

The reason why Lulu's sell is because they are a status symbol. 120 dollar yoga pants tell the world you spend money, simple as that... they may be comfortable as hell and last a while, but they are still 120 dollar yoga pants...

Reebok isn't a status, Vibrams and Inov8 are, the three brands (lulu, vibrams, inov8) are all against the norm of what "globo" people buy, and now Vibrams have taken a backseat to Inov8 because Vibrams have become mainstream...

@fitters don't support mainstream shit because they feel they are too hardcore and too different to follow the lead, although by definition they are followers because they buy and do all the shit everyone else does in their little cult.

If a @fitter wanted to really be different, they would wear Adidas shell tops, plain black shorts, a plain coloured tee and keep it on for the duration of the workout.

[Hymen Asshole]

so make the ex a better offer than anthos has.

Given the history between Couch and his ex, I'm not sure that's possible.

i accept it is entirely unlikely.

but if anthos is such a horror to contemplate, then take them out with a better offer.

of course, glassman's modus operandi is to demonize anyone who dares to challenge him or upset his cosy operation.

as i have noted, i wonder what happens if glassman's actions queer the deal. does the ex have some recourse?

I don't think she'd take an offer from him, I'm getting the feeling she's out to put the strapon to him, what's that saying about payback?

[Protobuilder]

If a @fitter wanted to really be different, they would wear Adidas shell tops, plain black shorts, a plain coloured tee and keep it on for the duration of the workout.

No tattoos and they could really stand out.

[Protobuilder]

Having your business partner be a company that actually knows something about business and is concerned about running the operation in a professional and profitable manner instead of a vindictive ex-wife is a bad thing? HQ's books have to be a mess if they see this as anything but a good thing - Couch could draw circles on a white board until he passes out and let somebody else do the heavy lifting - they should be jumping at the offer.

[The Venerable Bogatir X]

"Burn the boats"???

She's a Viking now?

Lisbeth The Red?

Lisbeth The Mad?

BLOOD AND THUNDER!

LMFAO....I really need to visit this thread more often.

[I dig big chicks]

Soooooo, ankle extension happens before your hips and knees? I've been doing this all wrong.

I'd love to see the video. You've either got a guy who jumps forward four feet on the catch (this is a common fault of those who attend the cf oly cert when the weight gets heavy) or who just tried to squat under a bar that barely cleared his knees. I'm thinking full on donkey kick forward leap with elbows down on the catch. But, maybe i'm just being bitchy.

When I work with people in the lifts, they're shocked when I tell them kips-knees-ankles is biomechanically efficient. They have no fucking clue. Not just crossfitters, but people who, for years, have been trying to extend their ankles first. They stare at me when I teach the USAW Level 1 with a blank face like I just whipped my dick out. So, I have them stand in the power position, extend their ankles, then knees, then hips, and watch them fall and stagger. They then get it. And then we deal with the assholes and the internal shoulder rotation.

Holy hell the crossfit Oly cert sucks, and Burgener admits it. He just doesn't care. To quote him : "They're Crossfitters, they'll never know."

[Bobby]

Love the Burgener quote!

[Mountebank]

Holy hell the crossfit Oly cert sucks, and Burgener admits it. He just doesn't care. To quote him : "They're Crossfitters, they'll never know."

It's quotes like these (and obviously there will be much worse ones when digging deeper) that is one of the reasons I think HQ doesn't want a partner.

From RobbWolf.com 's FB page comments (link posted earlier, but I'm posting the link again), made by the man himself, some other examples http://www.facebook.com/robbwolfonline/ ... 8642022406 :

Nancy Meehan, the former affiliate liaison left her position when Greg Glassman said in a meeting discussing qa/qc issues "HQ is not answerable to the affiliates"

Another Glassmanian classic: "we do not plan, we react!"

Referring to the affiliates:

" pawns in a much larger game" as GG has stated in an earlier email.

And an apparent ex-@FHQ employee shows us some of the accounting hand that HQ will be forced to play if Anthos comes aboard (near the very bottom of the comments):

HQ surely needs"management, accountability, and corporate structure". There were at least 2 austerity/low cash-flow periods when I was there, both of them brought on by the business actions of Lisa Lugo. The first involved sending "thank you" gifts to the gyms that hosted 101s, which was equipment ordered from her Garage Gym store using the corporate card. The store was then jointly owned with her husband Eddie who she was trying to get a divorce from at the time, and they presumably split the profits, or maybe it was a way of paying Eddie off. All the equipment was ordered in one big fell swoop, so a period of salary cuts had to be implemented. The second incident involved her signing a contract with Loews Hotels over the FilFest Miami hotel guaranteeing that that event would sell a certain number of rooms, and that HQ would buy the rooms that didn't sell. Needless to say, the event undersold, and HQ was stuck with a large bill. Nevermind that she had no authority to sign that contract on behalf of the company.

[Mountebank]

Some other theorizing (not mine):

From the scuttlebutt rolling around, it sounds like HQ offered Lauren a substantial premium over the Anthos deal, but structured over a longer timeframe and a series of payments, and not in a lump sum.

Since she's no stranger to stabbing people in the back and reneging on deals herself she doubtless recognized that the HQ deal would likely involve fucking her over and denying her the rest of her loot at the first available opportunity.

Takes one to know one!

[Kenny X]

HQ surely needs"management, accountability, and corporate structure". There were at least 2 austerity/low cash-flow periods when I was there, both of them brought on by the business actions of Lisa Lugo. The first involved sending "thank you" gifts to the gyms that hosted 101s, which was equipment ordered from her Garage Gym store using the corporate card. The store was then jointly owned with her husband Eddie who she was trying to get a divorce from at the time, and they presumably split the profits, or maybe it was a way of paying Eddie off. All the equipment was ordered in one big fell swoop, so a period of salary cuts had to be implemented. The second incident involved her signing a contract with Loews Hotels over the FilFest Miami hotel guaranteeing that that event would sell a certain number of rooms, and that HQ would buy the rooms that didn't sell. Needless to say, the event undersold, and HQ was stuck with a large bill. Nevermind that she had no authority to sign that contract on behalf of the company.

Buncha' fuckin' amateurs... -Walter Sobchak

[schumpeter]

From someone who has been through a business breakup with a megalomaniacal co-owner here is what is going on. Glassman wants to acquire the other 50% control at the lowest cost possible. The best way to do this is to poison all other potential offers Lauren can get. The best way to do this is to gen up the community to show it won't behave should the third party get the ownership. The assurances that they made Lauren a better offer will never be substantiated because it's simply not true. It's just a necessary lie to keep the community in line. (They probably made some kind of offer that gives them plausible deniability)

Consider Glassman's alternative. Matching Lauren's offer from Anthos would require taking on $20MM in debt which Crossfit would then need to service. That's $100,000/month in interest at 6% annually. This cuts into the cash flow with all the pain that entails and puts at risk the future if the growth ends and the debt isn't serviceable. While his behavior appears irrational when you realize the incentives it's completely rational.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Xf is exactly like lulu lemon, vibrams, and innov8...it's a high end training solution. Broke folks don't do xf, or the do it by themselves and modify it so it doesn't need 20k worth of equipment

[Turdacious]

YIHB, you do that guy a disservice by excerpting. His entire post was awesome.

Just jumping back on the original post, I think it's awesome that Reebok was ACCEPTED by Crossfit. I think a lot of people are coming to certain assumptions without understanding exactly what Coach wants to have happen with Crossfit and the sponsoring capabilities. I'm not getting into that, but it's all over his videos.

Just remember, Coach isn't going to sell out, HQ isn't going to sign anything that would affect Crossfit negatively. If anything, it would make more sense that Crossfit will have a large impact on Reebok and their future product line.

I'm looking forward to see how the Reebok brand mutates in order to confirm with the Crossfit norm. Reebok will undoubtedly start introducing products that target the Crossfit community, imagine being a company of their magnitude with the opportunity to commercially distribute a complete line of sporting goods for a new, untouched, upcoming craze such as Crossfit. I'd be loving it if I were on the Reebok staff...(stock tip!)

Be interesting to see if the posts that we see once the Anthos deal goes through look like this.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Dipshits. Reebok and xf communicate only through lawyers. As regards to hq, the games seemed to go more smoothly this year

[lasalle]

I'd really tuned out of this for the last year, but this is like @Fit's greatest hits. Is there a single topic that Katherine Derbyshire won't comment on?

"Whatever it takes". Bitch, please.

TOTAL WAR, my brothers.

[Gary John]

All this reminds me of the McCourt divorce and the Dodger sale.

Douchebag buys Dodgers, fucks up everything. Two years of bullshit fighting over the divorce, then super rich folk solve all their problems for $2 Billion.

Until the divorce in finished, I suspect this is all a puppet show.

[WildGorillaMan]

I hate myself for rising to the bait yesterday. Wake me if someone gets indicted or murdered over this.

[Yes I Have Balls]

I once heard Greg say, "If you do CrossFit, you will either get a raise at work, or quit your job; you will either have improvements in your personal relationships or you will get out of a bad one; your life will just get better!"

Greg's CrossFit recipe has a 100% success rate. I have not met a single CrossFitter who has not experienced profound personal transformation.

[Mountebank]

Soooooo, ankle extension happens before your hips and knees? I've been doing this all wrong.

You forgot to vacuum your stomach and fully tilt your pelvis under. Crucialities!

It's amazing that @Fers are completely ignorant to this email that couch sent to the Anthos guy:
http://anthosandcrossfit.blogspot.com.au/

From: Greg Glassman <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Thank you & we look forward to next steps
To: Bryan Kelly <[email protected]>
Cc: Chris Jacobson <[email protected]>, Brian Mulvaney <[email protected]>

Bryan,

It was great meeting you and seeing Chris again. We'll get together soon, we're significantly in sync when looking at CF's strategic and market potential. It would be a shame not to keep talking.

I've cc'd Brian Mulvaney in this as well.

Greg

Someone who knows someone who knows someone at Anthos apparently says they are bewildered and humored with the batshit crazy behavior coming out of HQ, and the words that have been inserted into their mouths.

[Turdacious]

A lot of folks decide to nosh on CrossFit right after their friends did because they can’t get them to shut up about it, on taste-addicted. Others lap up the a community for the communities sake, something was missing from their lives, and they found it at CrossFit. Others, like Anthos Capital, are trying to bite off more than they can chew, for all the wrong reasons.

When Coach Glassman created this little gem called CrossFit, he made it so that CrossFit affiliate owners everywhere could be cool all on their own. CrossFit’s are like local police stations, some rules ya just gotta follow or go to the big house. Other rules like; what we wear, what supplements we offer or don’t offer, how we program, what we post, are up to us. Coach gave us his kid to raise, and we have done a pretty good job.

From what I gather so far, Anthos Capital wants to be a fitness pimp. Which of course means making CrossFits, and CrossFitters, Anthos whores. But, I think they have underestimated us. Maybe, some of us don’t like to be pimped out, exploited, and screwed by everyone looking to make a dollar off our passion. I did that in a big box for years, and I won’t do it again, and if you want to CrossFit the same way you have been up until now, then pay attention because this concerns you. If your ass ain’t for sale, speak up, hang an exit only sign on your back and fight companies that have no clue what CrossFit is all about.

http://gopractice.biz/2012/07/stop-anthos-capitol/

Cult or business? Tough transition.

[Shafpocalypse Now]

Got a nice piece of info. Joey CCT was backed monetarily by Lisa Lugo. Mrs Couch screwed him over to screw her over. I admit this makes a lot of things fall into place

[Steggy]

The difference between Lululemon and Reebok is that CrossFitters actually buy Lululemon. I'm kind of confused about how it's a bad thing for somebody close to Lululemon to be associated with CF. I mean, wasn't the Reebok deal the best thing ever for CF?

Lulumon is purely a distraction to seed FUD, nothing more.