Steggy wrote:I wonder how many sheeple will sign up for the 2-day "striking" cert at $600 a pop. I could get a lot of time working in the gym of a local boxing coach for $600, and probably come out with a hell of a lot more skills.
A lot. It's hard to look good hitting the mitts and shadowboxing in your lullumons when real athletes are busting their asses and sparring all around you. Plus their are too many brown folks at a boxing gym and we all know that'd make the pencil necks and soccer moms nervous.
I grew up learning to box with the "brown folks"... tell those @fit idiots to save their money and go to the local PAL.
I hate how MMA has taken a pure sport like boxing and turned it into trendy bullshit.
There's a little black man who is my coach's coach that slings me around like a ragdoll, only wears one glove when spars, and scares the hell out of me since I know he could beat me senseless if he chose too.
And taught me more in one short session than these @fit fucks will learn in their life.
Looks like Dave Lipson is now running the Reebok box at their HQ outside of Boston. From what I gather he's from a stongman background and has some very impressive numbers, in addition to that- the 365 days of squatting blog which is pretty cool. I can't see this guy following mainpage in the least bit and would guess that he didn't get to where he is through dotcom wods.
What I see lately from intelligent boxes vs. HQ- Good affiliates: strength progression programming coupled with a daily conditioning circuit. It's almost always two pieces now. Eg. Press 5-5-3-3-3-1-1-1 then "run around a get tired x 5" and Dotcom: still tying all their strength and conditioning into one wod e.g. deadlift 225, burpees, KB swing, run or... having strength specific days eg. Squat 3-3-3-3-3-3.
So, is @fit the mixing of everything or is it lifting weights and doing a "finisher"? I'm still all for the lulz at the retarded @fitters, but it seems that at the affiliate level the product is so heterogeneous it's tough to hate across the board. It's like some of these affiliates have no idea about dotcom/gg/inside drama/character assassinations/drunken babbling.
Looks like Dave Lipson is now running the Reebok box at their HQ outside of Boston. From what I gather he's from a stongman background and has some very impressive numbers, in addition to that- the 365 days of squatting blog which is pretty cool. I can't see this guy following mainpage in the least bit and would guess that he didn't get to where he is through dotcom wods.
What I see lately from intelligent boxes vs. HQ- Good affiliates: strength progression programming coupled with a daily conditioning circuit. It's almost always two pieces now. Eg. Press 5-5-3-3-3-1-1-1 then "run around a get tired x 5" and Dotcom: still tying all their strength and conditioning into one wod e.g. deadlift 225, burpees, KB swing, run or... having strength specific days eg. Squat 3-3-3-3-3-3.
So, is @fit the mixing of everything or is it lifting weights and doing a "finisher"? I'm still all for the lulz at the retarded @fitters, but it seems that at the affiliate level the product is so heterogeneous it's tough to hate across the board. It's like some of these affiliates have no idea about dotcom/gg/inside drama/character assassinations/drunken babbling.
That's a very accurate assessment. @fit is, as I said before, a nation divided.
Looks like Dave Lipson is now running the Reebok box at their HQ outside of Boston. From what I gather he's from a stongman background and has some very impressive numbers, in addition to that- the 365 days of squatting blog which is pretty cool. I can't see this guy following mainpage in the least bit and would guess that he didn't get to where he is through dotcom wods.
What I see lately from intelligent boxes vs. HQ- Good affiliates: strength progression programming coupled with a daily conditioning circuit. It's almost always two pieces now. Eg. Press 5-5-3-3-3-1-1-1 then "run around a get tired x 5" and Dotcom: still tying all their strength and conditioning into one wod e.g. deadlift 225, burpees, KB swing, run or... having strength specific days eg. Squat 3-3-3-3-3-3.
So, is @fit the mixing of everything or is it lifting weights and doing a "finisher"? I'm still all for the lulz at the retarded @fitters, but it seems that at the affiliate level the product is so heterogeneous it's tough to hate across the board. It's like some of these affiliates have no idea about dotcom/gg/inside drama/character assassinations/drunken babbling.
Not surprising that @F put Lipson at the Reeb@k flagship @F.
Reasons:
Ex-pro athlete (before @F)
Built up his strength with (likely) conventional methods (before @F)
Big(-ger) than most @Fers, what the guys want to look like and @F will say they can reach if they only work 110% every time, which we all know is BS
He's got the image and resume that almost no other @Fers have, and would all like to.
Lipson is a strong fucking man, and he really isn't that big either. He's about 215-220 at the most and about a half inch taller than me, but that fucker can move weight.
Of course he doesn't win the Gaymes but who cares, he actually PLAYED a pro sport and he is stronger than 99% of the "athletes" in @fit. If only his overhead work was as good as his DL and squat...
I don't know the dude so maybe someone else can chime in. He was a pitcher so I'd bet that the big strength numbers came somewhere after baseball and before @fit. That's a training log I'd be interested in seeing because it seems he's done what @fit claims to do, get you strong as shit without turning you into Blocky Boy Thread fodder.
I live near the Reebok HQ in Canton and have seen their old gym/fitness center. They had a corporate fitness center management company running it and it had the typical Cybex, group exercise schedule type shit. I guess the Reebok Crossfit is the lesser of 2 evils.
Was in Boston over weekend and ran into a guy on the Reebok training team. He presents whatever Reebok is hawking at Mania nd Idea ect. I brought up @Fit and he got a real contipated look on his face and didn't say much. However he did say that all ventures under the Reebok banner are brought out at industry functions in some capacity. This is the bread and butter for them and I can't see that @fit would be the exceptipn. He didn't argue and what came out was Reebok wants a level of professionalism that has been lacking in @Fit trainings thus far. Couch is apparently not in a great deal of the day to day stuff anymore. WTF is that troll doing all day...no gym, no clients, no certs? Blugo all day?
CultBuster wrote:Was in Boston over weekend and ran into a guy on the Reebok training team. He presents whatever Reebok is hawking at Mania nd Idea ect. I brought up @Fit and he got a real contipated look on his face and didn't say much. However he did say that all ventures under the Reebok banner are brought out at industry functions in some capacity. This is the bread and butter for them and I can't see that @fit would be the exceptipn. He didn't argue and what came out was Reebok wants a level of professionalism that has been lacking in @Fit trainings thus far. Couch is apparently not in a great deal of the day to day stuff anymore. WTF is that troll doing all day...no gym, no clients, no certs? Blugo all day?
LOL. @F seminars without dropping the F-bomb every third word? @F booths at fitness conventions? =D>
This is nuts. $595! For comparison, do you know you can go to a two-day seminar with the legend Dan Inosanto for $180. Or do you know how many private one-on-on sessions with a professional boxing coach could you have for $600. (Up to 20.)
I always thought the high cost of the original cert was a de facto fee imposed by HQ in order for one to train clients. Paying $600 with no future dividends is, well, questionable.
This is nuts. $595! For comparison, do you know you can go to a two-day seminar with the legend Dan Inosanto for $180. Or do you know how many private one-on-on sessions with a professional boxing coach could you have for $600. (Up to 20.)
I always thought the high cost of the original cert was a de facto fee imposed by HQ in order for one to train clients. Paying $600 with no future dividends is, well, questionable.
It's almost like that guy was reading the Couch thread. :-"
How does a man with his training experience and knowledge get to where he is? I am still baffled at what he has done with his career with @fit, he is the ultimate poster boy for "not what you know but who you know".
How does a man with his training experience and knowledge get to where he is? I am still baffled at what he has done with his career with @fit, he is the ultimate poster boy for "not what you know but who you know".
Here.
"He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that." JS Mill
Nubain is an unscheduled injectible analgesic that saw a rise in popularity with bodybuilders in the late 90s and early 00s because it dulled the pain of intense training, while still allowing for skilled movements.
I predict that Nubain use will be the next avenue of exploration for the Firebreather(tm), since PED usage is already in full swing.
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Nubain is an unscheduled injectible analgesic that saw a rise in popularity with bodybuilders in the late 90s and early 00s because it dulled the pain of intense training, while still allowing for skilled movements.
I predict that Nubain use will be the next avenue of exploration for the Firebreather(tm), since PED usage is already in full swing.
There was also that Gaymes competitor that came on this thread awhile back talking about Neurontin/gabapentin use. Funny how pain meds are becoming de rigeur among @F firebreathers...their elite work capacity must truly be influencing their "health status".
Nubain is the shit. I used to sell (and occasionally use) it like it was going out of style. I had a few friends who were serious addicts. Around 1999 it was THE drug in AZ for coke users to come down. I haven't seen it in years and I was under the impression that they stopped producing it at one point. Am I wrong?
I picked up a couple hundred Neurontin caps a couple years ago for free and found them to be a surprisingly decent stimulant at high doses. Recommended.
And finally, if I do not move by the end of February I would like to announce that I will be teaching weightlifting at a @Fit seminar! Since I don't like @fit (or weightlifting really unless one is doing it as their official sport) I have sworn to behave myself to help out a friend who is organizing this thing. Ha.