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Part of their modal domain bullshit is bad form.Captain Quack wrote:Well, required fucked-up form by exercise choice and associated movement "standards" is not exclusively @F's domain, however, they do specialize in it.Jay wrote:@fitters and fucking up form is as common as a dog taking a shit.
The time is clearly right for Kubik to reissue Dinosaur Training rebadged for @fit.Shake Hands With the Fat Boys
By Daniel Hersee
In Equipment
June 20, 2011
Daniel Hersee says using equipment with an increased diameter can improve strength and reduce injuries.
Old-time strongmen knew all about thick-bar training and used it to great effect, but it’s been forgotten in modern times. Recently, there has been something of a rebirth of thick-bar training, with National Football League teams, Army Special Forces, Ultimate Fighting Championship fighters and powerlifters using thick bars to help make significant strength gains.
Thick bars are simply barbells, dumbbells and pull-up bars with a thicker diameter. A standard barbell, dumbbell or pull-up bar typically has a handle with a diameter of about 1 inch. A thick bar will often have a diameter of more like 2.5 inches. Some look more like truck axles, and if you’ve ever picked one up you will know that it feels completely different. Thick-bar training simply means using a thick barbell, thick dumbbells and a thick chin-up bar in your usual training program.
Then the smackdown comes...About WWS
We are a competitive league for local affiliates.
Our goal is to provide more opportunities to compete, more opportunities to build bonds within and among affiliates, and one more reason to push your fitness to the next level.
In the fall of 2010, WWS hosted its first season in Northern California with 17 affiliates and 121 athletes.
In 2011, we're expanding. Welcome Northern Virginia!
Affiliate teams will compete head-to-head in WODs that cover multiple time and modal domains to ensure that the strength, stamina, and mental fortitude of each individual and of each team is pushed to the limit.
It’s low-key, but there will be kick-ass WODs programmed by James "OPT" Fitzgerald and great opportunities to hang out with other CrossFitters in your community.
OPT won the first @F gaymes, had an affiliate since near the beginning. He's also started his own seminar series. Now he's programming for the first major competitor.*Critical Update* Change in Prizes & Sponsors.
Posted June 14, 2011
No Shirt. No Shoes. No Service? No Way!
The Bottom Line: No Shirt, No Shoes.
WWS will no longer be able to provide apparel from Reebok, prize packages furnished by Reebok and Affiliates AsRx, nor will we be running a league in Northern Virginia. But the NorCal league will soldier on, if y'all are still interested. Here's the explanation:
Why Explain?
From the beginning, we have aimed to make this league as transparent as possible and provide a competitive event that responds to what athletes and affiliates want. With that in mind, we feel it is absolutely critical that we explain why we are unable to provide what we have been advertising the last three months.
Without the following explanation, the reasonable inference from this exodus would be that Michael or Matt had done something unprofessional or unethical to lose our key support. While we would normally err on the side of silence, we cannot allow the league’s reputation and, frankly, our personal reputations, to suffer because of a conflict we have nothing to do with.
The following is a statement of the unfortunate circumstances that have led us to this point and forced us to choose between honoring our commitments to partners and the expansion and sponsorship opportunities for WWS.
What Happened?
Since the league started, we have aimed to secure HQ’s support in all aspects of the league, and therefore we have been in periodic contact with them to let them know what we’re doing. We checked in about starting the league and about whether or not we could seek sponsorships. HQ did not object to us running the league. They also told us they did not object to us seeking sponsorships.
As you know, by February we partnered with Reebok, OPT and Affiliates AsRx. Each of these companies agreed to provide certain services that would help enhance what WWS could offer athletes. No money was involved in these deals. These companies were simply excited about the opportunity to participate in a competitive league in Northern California and perhaps other parts of the country. They also provided services that were necessary for us to keep the league viable. Each sponsor knew of the others’ involvement.
Just two weeks ago, after sponsors had begun work, marketing flyers were printed and mailed and registration had already opened, we received a call from Reebok stating that HQ called them and objected to their participation in an event in which OPT was a sponsor and providing programming.
We scheduled a call with HQ during which they explained their objections to OPTs involvement in any event where Reebok and HQ staff members are involved. It was a long conversation, and suffice to say they felt there was a fundamental conflict between Reebok’s and OPT’s involvement because they believed that OPT does not represent CrossFit and had disparaged CrossFit. Accordingly, they indicated they could not support the league if OPT remained involved and recommended that we break our contract with OPT.
On both the suggestion of HQ and our own initiative, we immediately spoke with James “OPT” Fitzgerald and other members of the CrossFit community. We also conducted independent research to see what we could find about this conflict. Ultimately, after that investigation, we could find no evidence describing, justifying or even mentioning the conflict at hand nor any evidence that OPT had disparaged or undermined CrossFit.
Ultimately, we decided that we would not breach our contract with OPT. At a basic level, he was a partner of WWS who had lived up to his end of our deal. We had no evidence that OPT was undermining CrossFit or running contrary to our values and OPT had already provided us with his side of our agreement (the programming). For us, honoring commitments to our partners is simply a matter of integrity, even when it’s hard. We understood that this decision would likely mean the end of our sponsorships.
We relayed this information to HQ along with various compromise offers that did not involve breaking any of our commitments. Unfortunately, those compromise positions were not acceptable.
Reebok and our partners in NOVA told us that, without HQ’s support and approval, they would reluctantly pulled out of their agreements with WWS. After confirming we would not break our agreement with OPT, that’s exactly what happened.
Affiliates AsRx had not been a part of the initial conversations. When we apprised them of the situation, they also reluctantly pulled out after already having provided us with some excellent support in marketing the event.
We want to be clear about one thing. This isn’t about allegiance to HQ or OPT. We would have done the same for Reebok or Affiliates AsRx or our partners in NOVA had the tables been turned. As we said before, it’s about honoring commitments, even at the expense of all the time, money, and effort that we have already poured into this league.
So that’s it. Unless someone wants to try and call bullshit on our account, this is all the detail we’re going to get into on or off the record. We will continue to err on the side of discretion and leave the email chains, phone records and other Law&Order-silliness out of it. Life is just too short.
Next Steps: No Service? No way!
We'd still like to run this league so that WWS will solider on in NorCal this year. So, it’s back to basics. No corporate sponsors or tricked out prize packs – just a bunch of hard, pipe hittin’ athletes who want to work their butts off outside an industrial warehouse on a few Saturdays this fall. Same great format and set up as last year plus some updates you asked for like open rosters – just no SWAG. There’ll still be prizes like last year, and there will still be a nice little paleo feast to wrap it all up.
For us, WWS has always been more about the workouts and hanging out with people you just went toe-to-toe with in a WOD than the free t-shirts.
So, if you’re still interested even though the free gear and prizes won’t be there, we’ll compete. We’ll hang out. And we’ll have fun.
In recognition of that, early bird registration prices are good during all of registration (until July 15th). And just so you know, you can register at no risk. If we don't have a critical mass of affiliates, we will refund 100% of your money -- no questions asked. So we hope you'll sign up.
Thanks for the continuing support.
Compete.
--Michael & Matt
Um... someone might want to tell him what that means.a bunch of hard, pipe hittin’ athletes
No doubtGoDogGo! wrote:Um... someone might want to tell him what that means.a bunch of hard, pipe hittin’ athletes
OPT fires back.Captain Quack wrote:
OPT won the first @F gaymes, had an affiliate since near the beginning. He's also started his own seminar series. Now he's programming for the first major competitor.
Oh the drama! Reebok and @F will both get what they deserve out of this deal.
OPT does not represent CrossFit?
what does "represenation" mean?
how does a sport grow without critical thinking about how to do the sport, how to train the athletes within and how to coach coaches on fitness?
what individual sport out there has rules and regulations on what you wear, who your trainer is and what training methodology you choose?
what sport out there does not allow those in the sport to ask questions, make observations and request some thoughts into the evolution of the sport?
some thoughts to ponder on.....what are your thoughts?
- we have been asked to wear Reebok gear for the Games:
"Athletes must wear their (Reebok) uniforms as they take the field for their heat. You may, however, remove your shirt for or during the workout, but you can't wear a different shirt during the workout. You can wear whatever accessories you like as long as they are not visibly branded with logos or marks of Reebok's competitors. You can wear any footwear without restriction"
from here:
- for my own reasons of maintenance of integrity, not getting lost in the mix of drama vs. sport and "sticking" to my gut instinct, i will not be participating this year
- i personally will forge forward in the teaching and design of how to be fit, and continually be open to options of how to test, train and evolve fitness on this blog for our family and those who wish to be invloved in this
- we'll monitor, test, learn, etc...all in the search for answers without interruption
ONWARD!
You're an ASS!syaigh wrote: The thought of eating that giant veiny monstrosity makes me want to barf.
Why all the hate? Oh, wait a minute...Crust Bucket wrote:Fuck I hate these people
I wish them all illness and injury...That is all
6/11/11 UPDATE: Facebook pulled down the Nicole Bally profile overnight. I wonder what was Facebook’s definitive evidence in making the call to delete… or was the profile just an embarrassment for supposedly savvy media figures, Silicon Valley insiders and Facebook itself, better erased than learned from? As of last night, 11 of 697 Bally’s friends — including Jimmy Wales, Eli Pariser, Peter Shankman, Jake Dobkin, Andrew Raseij — had owned up to their mistake, unfriended Bally and gained some wisdom from the encounter. Too bad more CEOs, Facebook board members, journalists and tech insiders didn’t get to make the same hard call in public. Meanwhile Celia Richards’ profile, with its misleading photo, is still intact.
Very few @fitters played real sports or competed in anything other than @fit.The Lord Shafmungous wrote:They don't know a fucking thing about training other than what someone has told them. No practical, under the bar, experience.
They didn't load up and squat 405x8 in the middle of rugby season to keep strong while they had to keep their conditioning up...it is never a matter of successful competition or survival for them.
They never had to figure out which lifts didn't go with which other lifts, and why mixing them with 1/4 mile fast runs is a bad idea.
Furthermore, they fail to realize that handling that kind of workload required years of athletic training leading up to it, building a base of volume, conditioning, and strength that you don't get after a couple of months flailing around on pull-up structures.Jay wrote:Very few @fitters played real sports or competed in anything other than @fit.
And it seems that the ones that used to all of a sudden got stupid with endorphin overload.
For every Lipson and Orlando there are 25 wanna-be's who overtrain their asses off because they don't have the genetics for that kind of workload.
In the comments section, there is one of the funniest remarks about @fit that I have heard to date, "Our little baby is all grown up and she's a hooker..."WildGorillaMan wrote:OPT fires back.Captain Quack wrote:
OPT won the first @F gaymes, had an affiliate since near the beginning. He's also started his own seminar series. Now he's programming for the first major competitor.
Oh the drama! Reebok and @F will both get what they deserve out of this deal.
http://optexperience.com/blog/item/just-do-it
- we have been asked to wear Reebok gear for the Games:
"Athletes must wear their (Reebok) uniforms as they take the field for their heat. You may, however, remove your shirt for or during the workout, but you can't wear a different shirt during the workout. You can wear whatever accessories you like as long as they are not visibly branded with logos or marks of Reebok's competitors. You can wear any footwear without restriction"
I wanted a thick bar since the mid/late 90s, but could never bring myself to spend the 200-$300 an Apollon axle costs. I could probably thank CF for finally being able to get what is essentially thick pipe at (what I feel is) a reasonable cost.The Lord Shafmungous wrote: I bought my Apollon's Axle in 1996 after I read Kubik's Dinosaur Training.
Dan Martin wrote:I own the first axle made.
Are t-shirts and apparel rules going to be the straw that broke the camel's back?I have already had conference calls with Reebok about their bs... I was told point blank and I have it in writing that if I refuse to wear the Reebok provided clothes, I will not be allowed to compete... While I can't stand being manipulated, my entire livelihood is built around my CF affiliate. This is scary stuff.
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Women are required to wear the Reebok sports bra, shorts, t-shirt and tank. I could take my shirt off, but I would still be wearing the reebok shit underneath. They told me I could wear funky socks (provided there are no logos on them) and my own shoes...so nice of them. It's BS.
It is pretty damn arrogant to mandate that competitors (who are PAYING to compete) wear free clothes from a company that isn't paying them a dime.WildGorillaMan wrote:@fitters are going fucking bonkers that competitors at the Games are forbidden from wearing shirts from their affiliates or any sportswear made by anyone that isn't Reebok.
Are t-shirts and apparel rules going to be the straw that broke the camel's back?I have already had conference calls with Reebok about their bs... I was told point blank and I have it in writing that if I refuse to wear the Reebok provided clothes, I will not be allowed to compete... While I can't stand being manipulated, my entire livelihood is built around my CF affiliate. This is scary stuff.
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Women are required to wear the Reebok sports bra, shorts, t-shirt and tank. I could take my shirt off, but I would still be wearing the reebok shit underneath. They told me I could wear funky socks (provided there are no logos on them) and my own shoes...so nice of them. It's BS.
Link ?WildGorillaMan wrote:@fitters are going fucking bonkers that competitors at the Games are forbidden from wearing shirts from their affiliates or any sportswear made by anyone that isn't Reebok.
Are t-shirts and apparel rules going to be the straw that broke the camel's back?I have already had conference calls with Reebok about their bs... I was told point blank and I have it in writing that if I refuse to wear the Reebok provided clothes, I will not be allowed to compete... While I can't stand being manipulated, my entire livelihood is built around my CF affiliate. This is scary stuff.
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Women are required to wear the Reebok sports bra, shorts, t-shirt and tank. I could take my shirt off, but I would still be wearing the reebok shit underneath. They told me I could wear funky socks (provided there are no logos on them) and my own shoes...so nice of them. It's BS.
