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Scientists reported Wednesday that 2015 was the hottest year in the historical record by far, breaking a mark set only the year before
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I just looked thru the Christmas Cookie thread. Pretty sure 2013 was the hottest year on record.

EDIT- 2016 is looking pretty good so far.
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what are the odds that the warming that we are witnessing would have occurred without human activity?

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... nt-warmth/
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Onanism with a calculator. Lovely to follow along, but not terribly original in pseudo-sciences.

Here is the video of the environmentalist turned climate skeptic. In short, in his opinion politically motivated fixation on CO2 detracts us from real causes - and productive interventions - of environmental issues. Pretty much what many of us here said many times.

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dead man walking wrote:what are the odds that the warming that we are witnessing would have occurred without human activity?

http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/ar ... nt-warmth/
Agree. The warming I felt after perusing the Christmas Cookie thread was definitely human caused.
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An expansion of Europe's forests toward dark green conifers has stoked global warming, according to a study Thursday at odds with a widespread view that planting more trees helps human efforts to slow rising temperatures.

Forest changes have nudged Europe's summer temperatures up by 0.12 degree Celsius (0.2 Fahrenheit) since 1750, largely because many nations have planted conifers such as pines and spruce whose dark color traps the sun's heat, the scientists said.
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Turdacious wrote:
An expansion of Europe's forests toward dark green conifers has stoked global warming, according to a study Thursday at odds with a widespread view that planting more trees helps human efforts to slow rising temperatures.

Forest changes have nudged Europe's summer temperatures up by 0.12 degree Celsius (0.2 Fahrenheit) since 1750, largely because many nations have planted conifers such as pines and spruce whose dark color traps the sun's heat, the scientists said.
http://www.voanews.com/content/europe-d ... 77279.html
I was wondering why it feels so hot in the forest. It's good to have another explanation by climate science.
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I just listened to Bernie Sanders' speech after winning the New Hampshire primary. He referenced the horrible problems we're having with climate change in the US but forgot to mention any specifics.

Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not seeing the horror beyond regular old weather events.
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Balance pertains
As glaciers melt due to climate change, the increasingly hot and parched Earth is absorbing some of that water inland, slowing sea level rise, NASA experts say
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DrDonkeyLove wrote:I just listened to Bernie Sanders' speech after winning the New Hampshire primary. He referenced the horrible problems we're having with climate change in the US but forgot to mention any specifics.

Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not seeing the horror beyond regular old weather events.
i don't know about horror, although some say the problems in syria are a partly result of severe drought that drove many from the country to the cities and upset the political balance.

there's drought in ca and the southwest. that is likely to be caused in part by a changing climate.

forest fires in the west--so far seeahill has avoided that horor

sea level rise threatens fresh water supplies in southern fla--not to mention property along the coast.

keep a watch on more and hotter summer heat waves coupled with air pollution, and check for a spike both in heart problems among the old and in emergency room visits as a result of respiratory problems.

scientists have speculated about the northward migration of some tropical diseases. i don't know of any scary examples, but perhaps zika will cross the border.

we're like the scalded frog, getting used to the heating water without being aware of the danger it ultimately poses.
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buckethead wrote:Balance pertains
As glaciers melt due to climate change, the increasingly hot and parched Earth is absorbing some of that water inland, slowing sea level rise, NASA experts say
http://m.phys.org/news/2016-02-parched-earth-sea.html
not quite

the earth is absorbing "some" of the water, merely "slowing" the rise in sea levels.

by posting this, i conclude you agree that the climate is warming and sea level is rising.

in effect, you acknowledge that the end is still near, just not quite as near as some have suggested.
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dead man walking wrote:
DrDonkeyLove wrote:I just listened to Bernie Sanders' speech after winning the New Hampshire primary. He referenced the horrible problems we're having with climate change in the US but forgot to mention any specifics.

Maybe I'm missing something but I'm not seeing the horror beyond regular old weather events.
i don't know about horror, although some say the problems in syria are a partly result of severe drought that drove many from the country to the cities and upset the political balance.

there's drought in ca and the southwest. that is likely to be caused in part by a changing climate.

forest fires in the west--so far seeahill has avoided that horor

sea level rise threatens fresh water supplies in southern fla--not to mention property along the coast.

keep a watch on more and hotter summer heat waves coupled with air pollution, and check for a spike both in heart problems among the old and in emergency room visits as a result of respiratory problems.

scientists have speculated about the northward migration of some tropical diseases. i don't know of any scary examples, but perhaps zika will cross the border.

we're like the scalded frog, getting used to the heating water without being aware of the danger it ultimately poses.

Could also be a lot of selective abstraction, intended to gull a moderately scientific literate public into furnishing Rent Seeking for big banks and corporations, all of whom stand to profit big from "Green Energy" that inflicted onto the backs of tax payers and utility consumers.

Makes a lot more sense than this parade of problems, all of which are supposed, or imagined, to be linked with the use of fossil fuels.

Hint - natural gas is also a fossil fuel. Doesn't count because GE's crony is warming the seat in the Oval Office.
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Gravity, one of the constants of life, not to mention physics, is less than constant when it comes to being measured. Various experiments over the years have come up with perplexingly different values for the strength of the force of gravity, and the latest calculation just adds to the confusion.

The results of a painstaking 10-year experiment to calculate the value of “big G,” the universal gravitational constant, were published this month—and they’re incompatible with the official value of G, which itself comes from a weighted average of various other measurements that are mostly mutually incompatible and diverge by more than 10 times their estimated uncertainties.

Through these dual experiments, Quinn’s team arrived at a value of 6.67545 X 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2. That’s 241 parts per million above the standard value of 6.67384(80) X 10-11 m3 kg-1 s-2, which was arrived at by a special task force of the International Council for Science’s Committee on Data for Science and Technology (CODATA) (pdf) in 2010 by calculating a weighted average of all the various experimental values. These values differ from one another by as much as 450 ppm of the constant, even though most of them have estimated uncertainties of only about 40 ppm.
Newton died in 1727. 289 years after Newton proposed a relation that explained the force of gravitation, and 218 years after Cavendish first measured the constant which turns that relation into an equation we're still trying to figure out an exact value for G.

Anyone else believe that real science is ever settled?
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Gene wrote: Newton died in 1727. 289 years after Newton proposed a relation that explained the force of gravitation, and 218 years after Cavendish first measured the constant which turns that relation into an equation we're still trying to figure out an exact value for G.

Anyone else believe that real science is ever settled?
They just discovered gravitational waves a couple days ago. Now dead man walking is going to be scared of gravitational tidal waves

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Gravitational tsunami is a real threat. Time to set up gravitation trading scheme.
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You'll never understand the dynamics of the human-ice relationship until you stop thinking through the lens of unjust, gendered science.
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Gene wrote:...we're still trying to figure out an exact value for G.

Anyone else believe that real science is ever settled?
That's an engineering/measurement problem, not a science one.
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Pinky wrote:You'll never understand the dynamics of the human-ice relationship until you stop thinking through the lens of unjust, gendered science.
This is delightful
A critical but overlooked aspect of the human dimensions of glaciers and global change research is the relationship between gender and glaciers...

Given the prominent place of glaciers both within the social imaginary of climate change and in global environmental change research, a feminist approach has important present-day relevance for understanding the dynamic relationship between people and ice

As such, feminist glaciology has four aspects: ...(3) systems of scientific domination, to analyze how power, domination, colonialism, and control – undergirded by and coincident with masculinist ideologies – have shaped glacier-related sciences and knowledges over time
I never thought of it, but it is obvious that the similarity of masturbatory rhetoric puts feminism and climate "science" in the same bucket. I can see more than a few dissertations here: global warming cause by friction during sex, measurement of heat emission in flaccid and erect penises, CO2 production during masturbation in males vs. females, correlation between glacier mass gain and frequency of anal sex.
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Pinky wrote:You'll never understand the dynamics of the human-ice relationship until you stop thinking through the lens of unjust, gendered science.
This is my favorite part:
The author(s) disclosed receipt of the following financial support for the research, authorship, and/or publication of this article: This work is based upon work supported by the US National Science Foundation under grant #1253779.
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She got a grant from the NSF for this shit? Well shit negro, that all you needed to say. It's time for me to do some post graduate work focusing on THE BIG GREEN EGGs role in a post apocalyptic world inundated by murky sea water and irradiated water-borne CHUDs and buggery. Cha-ching mo-fo's. I'm joining the IGx Phd club. Please...call me Dr. Shape.

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Worth wading through the pedantry dr. shape

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However, the relationships among gender, science, and glaciers – particularly related to epistemological questions about the production of glaciological knowledge – remain understudied.
Can't argue with that.

Maybe "publish or perish" applies to glaciers too?
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nafod wrote:
Gene wrote:...we're still trying to figure out an exact value for G.

Anyone else believe that real science is ever settled?
That's an engineering/measurement problem, not a science one.
Saying that scientific experiments aren't used, Nafod?
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