Russia and Ukraine

[Wild Bill]

In Lugansk they repaired WWII tank wich stood on a pedestal. It still works.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkaq_48d4ho[/youtube]

[Sangoma]

Another version of events in Odessa. Never mind if it is true or not, fuck popular revolts, revolutions and wars for justice.

http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html

[Wild Bill]

i saw video where those who tried to escape (jumped from windows) were finished with clubs.

[Batboy2/75]

Saddle up Odessa; Friday is going to be bumpy ride.

Remember this is the conflict the our elites want to us involved in so badly. There are no good guys in Ukraine and we would be better off minding our own business. Particularly in a conflict where the so called "good guys" are partly made up of neo Nazi vermin.

[Fat Cat]

we would be better off minding our own business.

[Batboy2/75]

It's a sad state of affairs when the lesser of two evils is Ivan.

Fuck Europe and fuck NATO.

[JDub]

It's a sad state of affairs when the lesser of two evils is Ivan.

Fuck Europe and fuck NATO.

This.

[Batboy2/75]

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... TopStories

LOL, a unelected government, installed by a mob, that drove the legitimately elected government into exile; is now complaining about "rigged" elections in the eastern Ukraine.

[Wild Bill]

[Wild Bill]

But as far as i understand they voting not for joining to Russia. Only for autonomy as part of Ukraine.

i am not sure although.

[Wild Bill]

referendum in Mariupol
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw0F4U2z7oY[/youtube]

[DrDonkeyLove]

Polka night?

[Wild Bill]

http://nsnbc.me/2014/05/09/house-grille ... s-ukraine/

A two-hour hearing of US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland at the House Foreign Affairs Committee over the Obama administration’s and the US’ role in the developments in Ukraine nailed down Nuland over the United States overt cooperation with and use of neo-Nazis.

Hard times covering-up cooperation with neo-Nazis. It becomes increasingly difficult for the Obama administration and the corporate US press to cover-up the fact that the main driving force behind the coup in Ukraine are neo-Nazis and ultra-nationalists, supported by the US.

[Sangoma]

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/fe ... ilent.aspx

It seems that to the US government, facts simply do not matter. In pre-February 22 Kiev, the legitimate government was warned against using any force to put down an armed revolt. That rebellion, now in power, is actually encouraged by the US to use military force against civilians in eastern Ukraine.

In fact, the US administration has called these military operations against unarmed civilians "proportionate and reasonable." US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, who had just two months ago cheered on armed protesters seeking to overthrow the elected government in Kiev and warned that government against any response to the violent protests, was singing a different tune now that the US-backed insurgents have attained power. As Ukrainian military forces launched a bloody operation last week in the eastern city of Slavyansk, she told her UN counterparts that the Kiev "response is reasonable, it is proportional, and frankly it is what any one of our countries would have done in the face of this threat." Even Salon.com is finding it difficult to stomach the odious Samantha Power, calling her a "brazen hypocrite."

[Turdacious]

[unknown]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

[DrDonkeyLove]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Move along, nothing to see here.

One might think that allowing the son of the VPofUSA to have a financial interest in this tinderbox might show a scintilla of a conflict of interest that just might compromise the USA's noble position as a fair arbiter. That person would be WRONG because this administration is the most transparent and ethical in the history of the USofKKKA. It must be true since Obama said it himself.
Transparent ethics starts at 14 seconds in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs[/youtube]

[Fat Cat]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Don't be childish, if you think something underhanded is going on spell it out for us. Ukrainian holding company developing Ukrainian natural gas for domestic consumption and export doesn't strike me as anything wicked. Particularly when Russia likes to use its natural gas supply as a weapon. Why not cut them out of the action and make money? And why not hire western specialists?

[Fat Cat]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Move along, nothing to see here.

One might think that allowing the son of the VPofUSA to have a financial interest in this tinderbox might show a scintilla of a conflict of interest that just might compromise the USA's noble position as a fair arbiter. That person would be WRONG because this administration is the most transparent and ethical in the history of the USofKKKA. It must be true since Obama said it himself.
Transparent ethics starts at 14 seconds in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs[/youtube]

In case you forgot, you are the dumbass who supported Bush through two stupid wars and 8 years of presidency while his father sat holding hands with Bin Ladens on 9/11. Profound silence would be your best course of action.

[Fat Cat]

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/fe ... ilent.aspx

It seems that to the US government, facts simply do not matter. In pre-February 22 Kiev, the legitimate government was warned against using any force to put down an armed revolt. That rebellion, now in power, is actually encouraged by the US to use military force against civilians in eastern Ukraine.

In fact, the US administration has called these military operations against unarmed civilians "proportionate and reasonable." US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, who had just two months ago cheered on armed protesters seeking to overthrow the elected government in Kiev and warned that government against any response to the violent protests, was singing a different tune now that the US-backed insurgents have attained power. As Ukrainian military forces launched a bloody operation last week in the eastern city of Slavyansk, she told her UN counterparts that the Kiev "response is reasonable, it is proportional, and frankly it is what any one of our countries would have done in the face of this threat." Even Salon.com is finding it difficult to stomach the odious Samantha Power, calling her a "brazen hypocrite."

I know that, being raised in an oppressive totalitarian regime, expressing your own views was never your strong point but why don't you go ahead and give it a try.

[DrDonkeyLove]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Move along, nothing to see here.

One might think that allowing the son of the VPofUSA to have a financial interest in this tinderbox might show a scintilla of a conflict of interest that just might compromise the USA's noble position as a fair arbiter. That person would be WRONG because this administration is the most transparent and ethical in the history of the USofKKKA. It must be true since Obama said it himself.
Transparent ethics starts at 14 seconds in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs[/youtube]

In case you forgot, you are the dumbass who supported Bush through two stupid wars and 8 years of presidency while his father sat holding hands with Bin Ladens on 9/11. Profound silence would be your best course of action.

I started to become disillusioned with Bush soon after the "win" in Iraq and the wheels of progress started to come off. The implementation of the Patriot Act cooled my enthusiasm as well. I confess that I thought ridding the world of the Hussein family and regime was a good idea (because it was a good idea). My faith in Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rummy, and Condi to have a solid post Iraq victory plan was mistaken. The Bush admin is the main reason I left the Repuglican party in 2007 and began following the Andy doctrine of hating both cesspool parties.

That doesn't obviate the fact that it's not productive to have the VP's family having financial skin in the Ukraine mess.

[Turdacious]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Don't be childish, if you think something underhanded is going on spell it out for us. Ukrainian holding company developing Ukrainian natural gas for domestic consumption and export doesn't strike me as anything wicked. Particularly when Russia likes to use its natural gas supply as a weapon. Why not cut them out of the action and make money? And why not hire western specialists?

And why not hire one with serious political connections?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden#Career

[Fat Cat]

oh,the fight for democracy.

http://burisma.com/hunter-biden-joins-t ... -holdings/

Move along, nothing to see here.

One might think that allowing the son of the VPofUSA to have a financial interest in this tinderbox might show a scintilla of a conflict of interest that just might compromise the USA's noble position as a fair arbiter. That person would be WRONG because this administration is the most transparent and ethical in the history of the USofKKKA. It must be true since Obama said it himself.
Transparent ethics starts at 14 seconds in.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs[/youtube]

In case you forgot, you are the dumbass who supported Bush through two stupid wars and 8 years of presidency while his father sat holding hands with Bin Ladens on 9/11. Profound silence would be your best course of action.

I started to become disillusioned with Bush soon after the "win" in Iraq and the wheels of progress started to come off. The implementation of the Patriot Act cooled my enthusiasm as well. I confess that I thought ridding the world of the Hussein family and regime was a good idea (because it was a good idea). My faith in Bush, Cheney, Powell, Rummy, and Condi to have a solid post Iraq victory plan was mistaken. The Bush admin is the main reason I left the Repuglican party in 2007 and began following the Andy doctrine of hating both cesspool parties.

That doesn't obviate the fact that it's not productive to have the VP's family having financial skin in the Ukraine mess.

Putting aside your unforgivable 8-year lapse of judgement, allowing Ukrainian companies to make money free from Russian domination is precisely what this "Ukraine mess" is all about. It's not like there is any legal mechanism by which the US federal government can stop an American citizen from working for a foreign company, any way, so what precisely should be done?

[Wild Bill]

How stupid one should be to work for government
funny woman :))
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bg9X0eNFds[/youtube]

[Sangoma]

http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/fe ... ilent.aspx

It seems that to the US government, facts simply do not matter. In pre-February 22 Kiev, the legitimate government was warned against using any force to put down an armed revolt. That rebellion, now in power, is actually encouraged by the US to use military force against civilians in eastern Ukraine.

In fact, the US administration has called these military operations against unarmed civilians "proportionate and reasonable." US Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power, who had just two months ago cheered on armed protesters seeking to overthrow the elected government in Kiev and warned that government against any response to the violent protests, was singing a different tune now that the US-backed insurgents have attained power. As Ukrainian military forces launched a bloody operation last week in the eastern city of Slavyansk, she told her UN counterparts that the Kiev "response is reasonable, it is proportional, and frankly it is what any one of our countries would have done in the face of this threat." Even Salon.com is finding it difficult to stomach the odious Samantha Power, calling her a "brazen hypocrite."

I know that, being raised in an oppressive totalitarian regime, expressing your own views was never your strong point but why don't you go ahead and give it a try.

One day Buddha was walking through a village. A very angry and rude young man came up and began insulting him. "You have no right teaching others," he shouted. "You are as stupid as everyone else. You are nothing but a fake." Buddha was not upset by these insults. Instead he asked the young man "Tell me, if you buy a gift for someone, and that person does not take it, to whom does the gift belong?" The man was surprised to be asked such a strange question and answered, "It would belong to me, because I bought the gift." The Buddha smiled and said, "That is correct. And it is exactly the same with your anger. If you become angry with me and I do not get insulted, then the anger falls back on you. You are then the only one who becomes unhappy, not me. All you have done is hurt yourself."

Get it? Trying to insult me is a waste of time. I don't know you and don't care what you think of me. I don't think of you at all.